User:Bootmii/Conservapedia:Conservative logic

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The liberal logic and the conservative logic have such remarkable resemblences between them.

The differences are underlined in case they aren't obvious.


Liberal logic[1] as defined by CP Conservative logic similarly defined

Liberal logic is a term used to describe arguments made by some liberals that may appear logical, but are actually nonsensical. Here are some examples:

Conservative logic is a term used to describe arguments made by some Conservatives that may appear logical, but are actually nonsensical. Here are some examples:

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assuming something is true, merely because another liberal said so (see appeal to authority)

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assuming something is true, merely because Jesus/the Bible/Aschlafly said so (see appeal to authority)

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assuming something is false, merely because "only" a conservative said it (see ad hominem)

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assuming something is false, merely because "only" a Liberal said it (see ad hominem)

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claiming that their viewpoints are being censored, while actually they are the ones censoring their opponents

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claiming that the truth is being censored, while actually they are the ones censoring their opponents

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frequent reliance on circular reasoning, as in demanding censorship of intelligent design while simultaneously citing the resulting silence as proof against it[2]

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frequent reliance on circular reasoning, as in defining abortion as in unjust murder to prove abortion is wrong[3].

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insisting that someone needs to experience something (e.g., drugs, pornography, gambling, etc.) before being able to criticize it[4]

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insisting that someone does not need to experience something (e.g. , drugs, pornography, gambling Gay sex, Adultery, Child molestation, etc.) before being able to criticize it, then tries them anyways.

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personal experience dictates personal views, rather than rising above bad and/or unusual experiences and basing one's views on logic

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Religious dogmas dictates personal views, rather than basing one's views on logic, reason and reality.

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claim that switching from heterosexual to homosexual is customary, but switching back is somehow impossible

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claim that homosexual behaviour is not caused by homosexuality[5][6], therefore switching back is somehow possible.

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criticize Christians for literal interpretations of Genesis, but then insist on even more literal interpretations when it suits the liberal ideology[7]

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Accuse people for criticizing Christians for literal interpretations of Genesis, but then insist on redefining the words when it suits the Conservative ideology[8]

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insisting that the Bible literally prohibits judging anything[9]

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insisting that the Bible literally obliges the followers to judge everything.

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no matter what happens in the weather, global warming caused it

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no matter what happens in the weather, God caused it.

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belief that a correlation and/or causation (e.g., between atheism and suicide) can be disproved by a counterexample (e.g., one atheist who remained sane)

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belief that a correlation and/or causation (e.g., between Abstinence and Pregnancy) cannot be disproved by a counterexample (e.g., Virgin birth)

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often a liberal responds to a logical comment or question with an (illogical) expression of personal like or dislike, as in "but I like it!"

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often a Conservative responds to a logical comment or question with an (illogical) expression of personal like or dislike, as in "but I don't like it!"

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never admit shame for liberal behavior, but often tell others they should be ashamed of themselves

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never admit shame for Conservative behavior, but often tell others they should be ashamed of themselves.

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Americans should "move on" past the misconduct of Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy, but should dig up as much old dirt as possible about John McCain

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Americans should "move on" past the misconduct of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Larry Craig, Mark Foley and the like, but should make up as much dirt as possible about Barack Hussein!!! Obama and present it as fact.

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Highly implausible assumption like "if embryonic stem cell research will find the cure for paralysis, then would you support it?" (without any consideration of alternatives).

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Highly implausible assumption like "If God created the world in seven days, would you join our religion?" (without any consideration of alternatives).

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Barack Obama on Afghanistan: with fewer soldiers, we didn't have enough ammo and humvees![10]

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It already takes up a whole page and we haven't include everything yet.

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free speech for anything and everything ... except the conservative truth, and religion

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Right to life for everyone and everything, except felons, foreigners and infidels[11].

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insisting on "tolerance" for anything that is anti-Christian, while censorship for anything is Christian

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insisting on the falsehood on anything anti-Christian, while insisting on the truth of everything Christian.


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Hollywood promotion of abortion is welcomed, but views of Hollywood actresses towards their own children are concealed

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Politicians' promotion of monogamy is welcomed, but views of Politicians towards their own sex lives are concealed.


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carrying an unborn child to birth reduces risk of breast cancer, but choosing abortion rather than childbirth somehow does not increase the relative risk

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Abortion increases the risk of breast cancer, but miscarriage somehow does not increase the relative risks.

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requesting increased spending by government to reduce poverty, when actually poverty is increased by the dependency

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requesting tax cuts by government to boost economy, when actually the effect of recession is increased by the dependency on the lack of taxation.


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claiming that an atheistic culture cannot harm anyone, but also insisting that classroom prayer can cause harm.

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claiming that traditional values cannot harm anyone, but also insisting that homosexuality can cause harm.

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claiming that teaching abstinence does not reduce premarital sex and associated disease[12].

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claiming that teaching only abstinence does indeed reduce premarital sex and associated diseases.

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claiming that premarital sex is fine

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claiming that premarital sex is NOT fine, but marital rape is ok.


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claiming that increasing taxes must increase government revenue,[13] when often people just work less and revenues then decline

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claiming that tax cuts must increase government revenue, when often people just can't work harder to accomodate the lost government revenue with increased work.

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denying that widespread ownership of guns, largely defensive weapons, can reduce crime

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Insisting that widespread ownership of guns, largely offensive weapons, can reduce crime.

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Even though the Supreme Court overrules precedents every year by 5-4 votes, Roe v. Wade cannot be overruled, or can only be overruled if it is a unanimous 9-0 vote (this argument tries to make irreversible law out of the dicta in a weak majority opinion in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, even though the very creation of that "secret opinion" was procured by liberal deceit.)[14]

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Even though the Supreme Court upholds Roe v. Wade in every case, Roe v. Wade cannot be upheld, because the principle of Stare Decisis originates from our enemy, the British invaders[15].

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The pronoun "he" has been used to include men and women collectively for centuries, but liberals find that illogical today.

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The pronoun "they" has been used to include men and women collectively for centuries, but Conservatives find that illogical today.

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Getting rid of a sadistic dictator by going into Iraq was wrong but stepping into Sudan is not.

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Getting rid of a sadistic dictator by impeaching the war criminal was wrong but stepping into Iraq is not.


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The United Nations is better suited to judge and direct a country's actions rather than the country itself.

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Invasion of a foreign country is better suited to judge and direct a country's actions rather than the United Nations.

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It is a right to dissent against American policy but never take a stand if that logic moves beyond dissent and becomes treason.

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It is NOT ok to dissent against American policy but never take a stand if that logic includes the policy of expropriation of property and gun control[16].

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Stating "God of the gaps" to justify atheism

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Stating "Athiests do not know the answer" to justify Christianity.

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The wondrous, pristine national park of ANWR needs protection to keep its beauty. Though, it is but a remote barren tundra that few visit. [17]

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Quality of air does not need protection even people breath in air every day.

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It's not fair to the world that America keeps the thermostat at 72 degrees at all times. [18]

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It's fair to the world that America keeps the world's energy supply, and it is ok to invade other countries to get the stuff free.


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It is okay to demean an African-American if they are a conservative, but if they are a liberal then you are a racist

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It is okay to demean anyone of racial minority and accusing the liberals of thinking there is something wrong with it, because this guy is a racial minority.

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It is okay to demean a woman if they are a conservative, but if they are liberal then you are sexist.

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It is okay to demean a woman and accusing the liberals of thinking there is something wrong with it, because Andrea Dworkin, Ann Coulter and Phyllis Schlafly are all women.

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References and Footnotes[edit]

  1. The grammatical errors from the original document may have been preserved.
  2. See, e.g., Richard Sternberg.
  3. This one is actually featured on the Begging the question page.; a closer parody should be:
    • frequent reliance on circular reasoning, as in demanding to debate with evolutionists while simultaneously citing lack of participation of scientists as the proof that creationism is right.
    The problem is that this version may or may not contain circular reasoning.
  4. Bryn Mawr report on marijuana. Many commentators said the reporter had no justification for his views since he had never tried marijuana. Examples of such liberal logic included: "There are pros and cons to everything under the sun. That dosen't (sic) mean that you shouldn't try it all...Besides marijuana is so much more beneficial then everyone realizes." which was smartly replied to by another commenter with: "Following your logic, obviously there are PROS to:
    • jumping off the Empire State Building
    • anorexia
    • drunk driving
    • smoking crack or meth
    • child molestation
    • Shall I keep going?...
    Sorry, but not only is your drug-induced logic utterly flawed, but you don't exactly exude intelligence. Forgive me if I don't join your crusade."
  5. "I am not gay. I never have been gay." — former Senator Larry Craig (R)
  6. Of course Ted Haggard is "completely heterosexual" when he engages in gay sex.
  7. For example, liberals here insist that homeschooling can only mean being taught while in someone's own home.
  8. For example, people in Discovery Institute insists that intelligent design is a scientific theory.
  9. John 8:7
  10. [1]
  11. George H. W. Bush alledgely said "No, I don't know that atheists should be regarded as citizens, nor should they be regarded as patriotic." Through that logic, all of the infidels should be regarded as foreigners.
  12. http://media.www.mustangdaily.net/media/storage/paper860/news/2007/04/10/LettersToTheEditor/Teaching.AbstinenceOnly.Unrealistic-2831363.shtml
  13. http://capwiz.com/acu/issues/alert/?alertid=11534766
  14. See Jeffrey Toobin's The Nine.
  15. See War of 1812.
  16. Alternatives include:
    • It is a responsibility to not have sexual relationships outside marriage but never take a stand if that logic moves beyond marriage and becomes adultery.
    • It is a right to express yourself but never take a stand if that logic moves beyond expression and becomes hate speech(I guess they would take a stand and say hate speech is ok).
  17. ANWR's Place In Our Energy Picture Townhall.com, July 24, 2008
  18. Freedom and the View From Obamaland American Spectator, July 1, 2008