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KyleButler[edit]

I have reason to suspect that KyleButler is a parodist troll. The reason I don't just instantly block him is because he's not an obvious troll or vandal, so I would like to review the opinion of the mob before making any decisions. Please observe his contributions in which he:

  1. States that he would abort a child if it were a girl. [1]
  2. Implies that Republicans would be a better target of murder, specifically mass shootings, than apolitical or liberal people. [2]
  3. States that he would abandon a child if it was "less than perfect." In a bad neighborhood, no less. [3]
  4. Tops this off by stating that "Donnie" (Donald Trump) is a "racist ass" and advocating for Bernie Sanders becoming president in 2020; this is not necessarily a bad thing, but it appears that he's attempting to tie liberals and Sanders supporters to the other awful comments he's made. [4]

Additionally, I would like your opinions on whether a block or vandal bin is necessary, and if so, how long it should be set for. Thank you, π”–π”­π”―π”¦π”€π”€π”¦π”«π”ž (π”±π”žπ”©π”¨) (π” π”¬π”«π”±π”―π”¦π”Ÿπ”²π”±π”¦π”¬π”«π”°) @ 21:34, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Red flags has been raised about the "abort the child if she was a girl" comment, which is made only if the user wants to be offending and shocking. I support a vandal bin. Π‘aΠ±yΠ›uigiOΠ½Π€ireπŸš“(T|C) 21:37, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
I think should take the wait and see approach, at least for the time being. At most they should be vandal binned, again for the time being. Comrade GC (talk) 21:38, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
My body my choice. KyleButler (talk) 21:39, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
We also have the choice to vandal bin you if you continue acting like a prick. You don't. Π‘aΠ±yΠ›uigiOΠ½Π€ireπŸš“(T|C) 21:40, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

It might be best to set up a vote for this. π”–π”­π”―π”¦π”€π”€π”¦π”«π”ž (π”±π”žπ”©π”¨) (π” π”¬π”«π”±π”―π”¦π”Ÿπ”²π”±π”¦π”¬π”«π”°) @ 21:40, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Coop case is far from necessary, especially at this point (which isn't close to headless chicken mode). The user is edgy and should be ignored. That's all. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 21:42, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
It's true that this isn't HCM in any way, but I'd rather have a speedy coop case and arrive on a conclusion that will wipe this edgy prick out than simply wait while he inserts more stupid comments on the Saloon Bar until it actually sends the wiki into turmoil. You're the mod here though, so it's your call. π”–π”­π”―π”¦π”€π”€π”¦π”«π”ž (π”±π”žπ”©π”¨) (π” π”¬π”«π”±π”―π”¦π”Ÿπ”²π”±π”¦π”¬π”«π”°) @ 21:45, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
I think a comment on "your post is sexist and unnecessarily edgy" will suffice. If the user doesn't listen, don't respond or say you're not interested in continuing the conversation. If user continues being disruptive (such as continuing to make off-topic provocative remarks despite being told off), then you can bring attention to another coop case. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 21:55, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Actions to perform on KyleButler[edit]

Block[edit]

Vandal bin[edit]

  1. Π‘aΠ±yΠ›uigiOΠ½Π€ireπŸš“(T|C) 21:43, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Goat[edit]

If they're just saying stupid things, but not causing any trouble (wandalism, harassment), then just do nothing. β€”Kazitor, pending 21:43, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Agreed, thus far they have merely said a few things of a provocative nature which may yet turn out to be nothing important in the end. Comrade GC (talk) 21:46, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Per. Vandal bin should be reserved only if the user is causing enough disruption. At this point, user is still within benefit of doubt, but this may change if the user continues making provocative posts, which will be considered troll territory. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 21:49, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
After making another shocking tangent about how "kids are annoying and i'll abandon them if they ares less than perfect" after pointing out how this user is missing the point of your comment, I don't think this user deserves any more benefit of the doubt. Π‘aΠ±yΠ›uigiOΠ½Π€ireπŸš“(T|C) 21:55, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
This was before the coop case was raised. I'll still let it slide, but if the user continues to make such comments after being well-aware of how problematic they are, then that's grounds for another coop case. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 21:58, 24 January 2018 (UTC)