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—Andrew Ryan, BioShock

The phrase "stopped clock" (also "broken clock" or "sudden outbreak of common sense"[1]) comes from the proverb "even a stopped clock is right twice a day", thus implying that even cranks, denialists, or conspiracy theorists can theoretically be correct once in a while, sometimes by chance, sometimes by rational thought.

This analogy is one counterpoint to the fallacy fallacy, which is the mistake of assuming that any conclusion derived from fallacious reasoning must be false. To extend the analogy a bit further, a clock stopped at 3:48 will always conclude that the current time is 3:48. Thanks to its faulty premises, though, this conclusion happens to be correct only for a total of two minutes out of any given day, or 1/720 (roughly 0.14%) of the time.

Some examples[edit]


  • 4chan has a strong distaste for animal cruelty, especially on cats. In some instances, users have even gone beyond banishment of animal abusers, going as far as to dox them and report them to police.[2][3] Also, 8chan came into existence because its userbase was crossing lines even 4chan considered too extreme - demonstrated by 8chan hosting boards for organizing raids, animal abuse, and child porn.



  • Michele Bachmann has no time for birthers. When asked about Barack Obama's birth certificate on Good Morning America by George Stephanopoulos, Bachmann said that its release "should settle the matter", that "I take the President at his word", and that "We have bigger fish to fry".[19]
  • Steve Bannon wants an upper-income bracket tax rate of 44%, apparently. [20]
  • Glenn Beck now agreeing with liberals about Iraq, and defending a boy who got bullied for being a brony.[21] He has also consistently opposed Trump's campaign for the White House (if for typically Beck-esque reasons). [22] Additionally, he raised money and supplies for undocumented refugees, particularly children, on the Texas border, despite receiving death threats for doing so.[23]
  • In 2010, Pope Benedict XVI approved the use of condoms in some circumstances.[24]
  • Hugo Black's support of a 30 hour work week.[25]
  • Jan Brewer vetoed a Birther bill on April 18, 2011, came out in favour of Obamacare in June 2013 and vetoed (after tremendous pressure by big business) a bill that would allow businesses to deny service to gays on religious grounds in February 2014.
  • The British Fascisti, the first British fascist organisation, was quite strongly feminist: it had many women in positions of authority and supported universal suffrage for both sexes.[26]
  • George H. W. Bush openly opposed Reaganomics, even calling it "voodoo economics", and decided against overthrowing Iraq in the Gulf War. Also his revoking of lifetime membership from the NRA counts as this[27].
  • George W. Bush supported immigration reform and gave funding to AIDS research in Haiti and Africa.[28] Also signed into law Medicare Part D. Has also been active in charitable work after leaving office.


  • David Cameron for passing same-sex marriage for 97% of British citizens. The Unionists keep blocking it in Northern Ireland, albeit his successor Theresa May has promised to push it there.[29]
  • Gretchen Carlson shared her opinion on common sense gun laws in the wake of the 2016 Orlando Pulse Nightclub massacre, completely off-script.[30]. Her advocation against sexual harassment counts as this as well.[31]
  • Tucker Carlson has occasionally voiced scepticism towards such items of Republican faith as traditional U.S. foreign policy, the dogma of tax cuts for the wealthy, the link between consumer goods and happiness, and free market fundamentalism,[32] though he has been far from consistent on any of this, and his political stance in context could be interpreted as favouring a sort of herrenvolk democracy.
  • Fidel Castro's opposition to apartheid in which he aided Angola when they were being invaded by South Africa[33], not to mention the fact that Cuba's universal healthcare plan has been lauded by the UN's World Health Organization (WHO).[34] In addition, he had also apologized and taken full responsibility for the persecution of homosexuals in Cuba, calling it a "great injustice"[35]
  • The Cato Institute made a thorough, well-pieced rebuttal of anti-immigration hysteria.[36] They have also been consistent critics of the War on Drugs.
  • Mike Cernovich criticized Jeff Sessions for his war on drugs and civil foreiture.[37] He also supports a single-payer universal healthcare system and universal basic income.[38] More recently, he's spoken out against Islamophobia, describing it as "very real, very nasty, and I don't want anything to do with it."[39]
  • Dick Cheney's support for same-sex marriage, if only because his daughter is a lesbian. He also repudiated Donald Trump's comments about refusing entry for Muslim refugees in the United States, saying that religious freedom is "a very important part of our history".[40]
  • Christian conservatives tend to set up charities, although they often make a point to not donate to LGBT people.[41] They were also the ones that backed up female suffrage back in a time where women were unable to vote. Admittedly, this was less because they wanted to empower women and more due to the then-widespread belief that women were more religiously devoted than men, and would turn the vote in their favor. [note 1]
  • Christian Scientists, despite extremely harmful beliefs regarding faith healing, also set up Christian Science Monitor. Their journalism has won seven Pulitzer Prizes. [42]
  • In 2013 the Church of England allowed gay men in civil partnerships to become bishops.[43]
  • Jack Chick's tract It's Not Your Fault pointed out how a traumatic event can leave deep psychological scars on a person and how badly the UN handled the Rwandan genocide.[44]
  • The Communist Party USA was an early advocate for civil rights for blacks, most notably on the issue of lynching.[45] It denounced U.S involvement the Second Iraq War.[46]
  • The Confederacy's support for several Native American groups[47], though this was mostly to get support against the Union from said natives. Arguably, depending on POV, their non-slavery based reforms of a six-year Presidency and a Line Item Veto may or may not count.[48]
  • Conservapedia's article on the Westboro Baptist Church is highly critical of said Church, arguing that "true Christians" follow God's example and "love the sinner."[49] Another point where it's due: despite their pro-torture views, Project MKUltra was too much even for them.[50] Their article on Holocaust denial is quite good.[51] They don't like Metapedia -for correct reasons- [52]and criticized Saudi Arabia[53].
  • The Conservative Party of Canada's generally principled stand on apartheid.[54]
  • The Constitution Party opposing the Iraq War.[55]
  • Larry Craig supporting immigration reform.[56]
  • Ted Cruz sees the benefits and scientific rigor behind GMO foods, and has called the campaign against them "anti-science zealotry."[57] Cruz has also led a bipartisan effort to return art stolen by Nazis during the Holocaust to its rightful owners.[58] He refused to endorse Trump at the 2016 Republican National Convention;[59] but later changed his mind. [60]


  • DAESH allowed for Muslim immigrants to become naturalized citizens. They even went as far as to issue Caliphate passports to newly arrived immigrants.[61] This makes it the twelfth Muslim majority country country where Muslim immigrants are offered a formal path to become a naturalized citizen, the only other 11 being Turkey, Malaysia, Oman, Indonesia, Albania, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Burkina Faso, Kazakhstan, Somalia, and Uzbekistan. In all other Muslim countries immigrants can never become natural citizens and a child born there can only be considered a citizen if it was also the offspring of someone who already had that nationality, which is problematic for anyone who is Palestinian. Another good thing: according to one of their propagandists manifestos, Daesh believes that education for women should be mandatory.[62] [note 2]
  • The Daily Mail published an exposé on how British billionaire financier Nat Rothschild treated British Labour minister and EU commissioner Lord Mandelson with a private jet and luxury dining to meet his Russian pal, Oleg Deripaska. Not coincidentally, Oleg Deripaska owned an aluminum plant that exported the metal to Europe. Nat Rothschild, being the skinny billionaire he is, sued the paper for libel, but a High Court judge sided with the paper and threw out the lawsuit.[63]
  • Earlier in his career, conservative activist and conspiracy advocate Mark Dice expressed sentiments opposing American imperialism and advocated for civil liberties. Like his friend Alex Jones, this all stopped once the age of Trump came to be.
  • Rachel Dolezal, despite her obviously false claims of being black, has actually fought on the right side of legitimate issues.[64] She is also pro LGBT and identifies as bisexual.[65]
  • David Duke's support for Occupy Wall Street, although he predictably claimed that the Jews were the 1%. [66] He also opposed the Iraq War and wants to close Guantanamo Bay.[67]
  • Ruthless Filipino president Rodrigo Duterte, has pushed towards free birth control in the predominantly Catholic country.[68] He also supports women's rights and gay marriage (despite using pejorative terms to refer to both groups).[69]



  • Louis Farrakhan is a good violinist, and as an olive branch to try to make up for his anti-semitic statements, he staged a performance of the Violin Concerto by Jewish composer Felix Mendelssohn.[76] Another point for him : he also works a lot to stop beefs between hip-hop artists and was notably the reason rappers Common and Ice Cube reconciled.[77][78]
  • Fox News will actually offer apologies - on occasion - after fucking up.[79] Much thanks to Shepard Smith, Fox's "voice of reason" straight-man (in the comedic sense — he's actually openly gay), who is usually the guy, along with Chris Wallace, who keeps it relatively real and denounces Fox's most ludicrous elements.
  • Francisco Franco did not officially enter World War II on the Axis side, but he had volunteer regiments fight the RussiansWikipedia's W.svg. Franco had just won the Spanish Civil War and had little military capacity to aid Hitler with. He also granted asylum to Jews fleeing Nazi Germany.
  • The Freedom Caucus for opposing Donald Trump on health care reform, albeit they believe that Trump was too liberal for not repealing it. [80]
  • Despite being extremely right-wing on most economic issues, Milton Friedman also advocated for a negative income tax that strongly resembles a universal basic income in order to alleviate poverty. To be clear, he was arguing for this to replace other welfare measures and did not believe that it was government's place to alleviate wealth disparities, but his concern for alleviating poverty was, by all appearances, genuine.


  • Muammar Gaddafi was a vocal opponent of apartheid in South Africa,[81] and he supported universal healthcare and education in Libya.[82] Also, he created "The Great Man-Made River," an irrigation project which transported water from aquifers to Libyan cities and villages to provide fresh water for Libyans and boost agriculture.[83]
  • The reason Indira Gandhi is still revered by some Indians and many Bengalis is due to the successful liberation of Bangladesh from Pakistan, in which the latter was committing genocide against Bengalis.[84]
  • Pamela Geller is pro-choice and supports same-sex marriage.[85]
  • King George III for allowing Parliament to ban the slave trade, albeit he had little power (and had gone mad) by the time it happened.[86]
  • Jonah Goldberg was one of the first to call bullshit on the gross lack of journalistic integrity that went into producing A Rape on CampusWikipedia's W.svg.[87] He has also taken a hard stand against Donald Trump supporters within the Republican party.[88]
  • Golden Dawn is environmentalist, as evidenced by their green wing, which is actively taking part in firefighting, reforestation and private investigation of animal abuse. They also oppose the Hard green idea that humans are equal to any being on this earth. It should be noted though that their reason to defend the environment, which amounts to defending the diversity of the different Races on earth, is only slightly better than the idea they claim to oppose. They also tend to stereotype all environmentalists that don't follow their mentality as leftists and hippies, which is exactly the same reasoning done by people in the Anti-environmentalist crowd.[89]
  • Barry Goldwater, the anti-government ideologue and godfather of the modern conservative movement, loathed the Religious Right, supported LGBT rights towards the end of his life[90], was pro-choice, a staunch environmentalist,[91] and firmly opposed the very concept of money in politics. Later in his life, he was so ashamed of his party and the conservative movement that he practically decoupled himself from the Republican Party.


  • Samuel Hahnemann was quite correct in recommending against the mainstream medical treatment to anything, and the methodology he used to derive his "Like cures like" hypothesis puts him at the cutting edge of 18th century medicine, although the hypothesis didn't pan out.
  • Hamas's support of a unity government with their main Palestinian political opposition, Fatah,[92] and funding of social programs and public works within Gaza.[93]
  • Despite wanting a ban on Muslim immigration into Australia, Pauline Hanson decried her former colleague Senator Fraser Anning's maiden speech which he asked for the "final solution on immigration problem", stating that it was "straight from Goebbels' handbook". [94]
  • Sean Hannity calling the Westboro Baptist Church "religious nut(s)".[95] and encouraging the Catholic Church to tone down their opposition to birth control.[96]
  • Friedrich von Hayek, despite his reputation as an extremely right-wing economist, argued that it was the duty of the state to help people get back on their feet whenever an unforeseeable misfortune set them back. This led him to support many programs generally associated with the left, including universal healthcare and unemployment insurance.
  • Hezbollah has organized a range of social service programmes including hospitals, news services, and educational institutions which cost hundreds of millions of dollars per year.[97] It also runs a so-called "Martyr's Institute" which provides basic living expenses to the families of fallen fighters (however, this includes suicide bombers, which motivates more people to kill for them).[98] They have also recently accepted Christian and Sunni Muslim recruits to fight the common enemy of Da'ish (whom, like Al-Qaeda and the Taliban, Hezbollah is also against).[99]
  • Rebekah Horton, co-founder and leader of Pensacola Christian College, a Florida-based fundie school, testified against Pensacola evangelist Kent Hovind, explaining the Bible does not condone tax evasion. Hovind was accused of evading $473,818 in federal income, Social Security and Medicare employee taxes at his Creation Science Evangelism Ministry, which includes Dinosaur Adventure Land, a creationist theme park.[100]
  • Enver Hoxha, the brutal fundamentalist atheist[101] dictator of Communist Albania, also did a lot to advance women's rights.[102]
  • Mike Huckabee is a huge advocate for public school arts education, both when he was Arkansas governor and since leaving office.[103] He also made a plea for preserving the National Endowment for the Arts after Donald Trump threatened to defund it.[104]
  • Saddam Hussein for creating policies on universal healthcare and education in Iraq. He also took to combat illiteracy (in addition to the other groups he took to combat) and, like Bashar al-Assad, he also was a vocal proponent of women's rights in school, and work.[105]
  • John HowardWikipedia's W.svg forcing through strong gun control in the face of his own wingnut base.
  • Hard-right blogger John Hawkins exposing several right-wing mail order scams.[106]
  • Kent Hovind for rejecting geocentrism and flat earthers. [107] Small favors, right?


  • David Icke has been highly critical of the U.S. Religious Right in general, especially the Tea Party.[108]
  • ICOR opposes the Belarussian regime.[109]
  • Wingnut pundit Laura Ingraham denouncing Louis Farrakhan's extreme homophobia. Note that Ingraham isn't exactly the image of humanity when it comes to homosexuals, and she seems to only be keen on denouncing black Muslim (albeit a particularly crazy form of Islam intertwined with some bizarre black supremacist nonsense) homophobes. Those same denunciations don't appear to extend to good, white Christian homophobes like Tony Perkins or Mike Huckabee. She also seemed to tone down her homophobia and anti-gay rhetoric after her gay brother's partner contracted the AIDS virus...[110]
  • The Islamic Republic of Iran is one of the few nations to cover transgender reassignment surgery in their national health care plan (though it is also implemented for homophobic reasons so as to "give" homosexuals the "choice" of castration or imprisonment / death).[111] Also gets credit for having a relatively complex science infrastructure despite sanctions,[112] and the government does seem to be compliant with the terms of the IAEA despite what most media pundits will tell you...[113] Also great is that they accept that video games as a legitimate art form despite looking at it from a very religious lens. [114] [note 3] Some would view their program for paid kidney donation as an example as well, given it has eliminated the waiting list for those needing transplant, but others may disagree.[115] Iran has also tried protecting cheetahs, but their numbers have dwindled for reasons unrelated to Shia Islam or Ayatollahs. [116] Unlike longtime rival Saudi Arabia, Iran allows Jews, Christians, atheists, Zoroastrians, Hindus and others to openly practice the religion without fear of execution or arrest. These groups are prevented from converting , however.


  • Imperial Japan attempting to introduce a racial equality bill in the League of Nations and harboring Jewish Holocaust refugees during World War II.[117][118]
  • In 1952, the Jehovah's Witnesses stopped teaching that vaccines are immoral.[119] They have also been at the forefront of legal battles for free speech, freedom of religion, and the separation of church and state.[120] Because of their opposition to military service and oaths of allegiance, Jehovah's Witnesses pissed off the Nazis more than any other Christian denomination. More than half of Witnesses in Germany were imprisoned for standing up to the Nazis and 1,200 were murdered.[121]
  • Andrew Johnson is today remembered as one of America's worst Presidents due to his inept handling of Reconstruction, which had a major contribution to the lasting legacy of racism in America. However, he had a fairly successful foreign policy, which included improving rocky relations with Great Britain and forcing Napoleon III to withdraw from Mexico without a war[122].
  • Alex Jones has criticized David Icke's belief that the world is run by blood-drinking shapeshifting alien lizards numerous times, despite being more than willing to believe all sorts of other conspiratorial bunkum.[citation NOT needed] Jones has referred to Icke's theory as "the turd in the punch bowl"[123] - implying that Icke makes plenty of good points and then ruins it all with the crap about space lizards. More credit where it's due: He has also denounced the pseudolegal woo of the Freeman on the land/Sovereign citizen crowd.[124] Earlier in his career, before becoming a hysterical Trump supporter, Jones was also fairly critical of US imperialism and of the neoconservative elements within the Republican Party, albeit from a conservative conspiratorial perspective.
  • Jim Jones's outspoken support for civil and human rights, pacifism, and efforts to relieve poverty.[125]
  • Carl Jung was one of the first people to define extraversion and introversion in a psychological context, with those terms being translations from terms he coined "Extravertiert" and "Introvertiert". His work paved the way for further development of that dimension.



  • Riposte Laïque strongly opposes anti-Semitism.[139][note 4]
  • Tomi Lahren, for all her wingnuttery, is pro-choice. [140] Also, she is not a fan of the alt-right movement, calling it "disgusting" and saying that she would never be "an advocate, a cheerleader or an apologist for the KKK or any other hate group.”[141][142] Furthermore, she also denounced Roseanne's racist Twitter comments.[143]
  • Lyndon LaRouche's EIR magazine broke the Iran-Contra affair several months before anyone in the media picked up on it.[144]
  • Jean-Marie Le Pen was the very first French politician to promote an open Muslim Frenchman, Ahmed Djabbour, to a major deputy, although he predictably used this fact "to prove that he wasn't racist". At least it shows that he is much more inclusive than those in the Rally for the RepublicWikipedia's W.svg. He has also privately expressed that he celebrates for Obama's ascension to presidency (even if he would have celebrated John McCain as much if it was him who would become the president).[145]
  • Vladimir Lenin planned to move Russia's calendar in line with the rest of the world, opposed antisemitism (though he was partly of Jewish descent himself), and legalized homosexuality. Unfortunately, it was re-criminalized under Satan Stalin[146]
  • Ezra Levant's firing of The Rebel Media's Faith Goldy after it was revealed that she went on a podcast for the Daily Stormer.[147]
  • Andy Levy, Fox News contributor and "comedian", launched a brilliant tweet attack on noted scumbag and girlfriend-beater Chris Brown. His subsequent "apology" to Mr. Brown and his army of sycophants was even better. [148]
  • Little Green Footballs' excellent, piece-by-piece debunking of Pamela Geller's "270 million victims of Islam" myth.[149] Not to forget their opposition to Donald Trump.





  • The reason Ron Paul initially attracted so many young people is because he wanted to decriminalize drugs and has been consistent in criticizing gunboat diplomacy.
  • Rand Paul for opposing the War on drugs and for calling Lindsey Graham a danger to the country for proposing military force against North Korea.
  • Katie Pavlich (and other internet wingnuts, such as Paul Joseph Watson) correctly mocked moonbats who lavished praise on Fidel Castro after his death and pretended he wasn't an authoritarian dictator, albeit this was most likely because it was easy points to score against the nuttier leftists.[193]
  • PETA supports LGBT rights and saved a gay man in India from an arranged marriage.[194] Humans are animals, too.
  • Marine Le Pen, for removing the more racist, anti-semitic elements from the French National Front party, and being a LOT less bigoted than her father (though that doesn't say much, we appreciate the effort).[195] She has also been more liberal on matters such as abortion and gay rights.[196] The latter is especially notable because her right-wing political opponent, the "brave and moderate republican" François Fillon, was a homophobe. [197] Her plans on health care also have serious recognition. Also, unlike her father[198], she isn't a climate change denialist.[199], though she didn't have any serious policies to curb climate change at all and starts blaming on foreigners. Also, weirdly[note 6], she and much of the rest of the French Right tend to more level-headed on the issue of prostitution than their opposition, calling for heavy regulation and state-controlled brothels as opposed to bizarre attempts to institute "abolition" via more heavy-handed policies and bans.
  • Mike Pence has been surprisingly critical of some of Donald Trump's policies, especially regarding Russia.[200] He also accepted the Medicaid expansion under ObamaCare.[201]
  • Vladimir Putin's policies on economic growth in Russia early in his administration, especially after the collapse of the Russian economy during the 1990's.[202] He has also not appeared to be especially anti-Semitic and has also warned the U.S. on intervening in the Middle East.[203] Putin has also warned against the attempts to restrict abortion in Russia, saying that "In the modern world, the decision is up to the woman herself". [204] Putin also opposed the Iraq War before it even started. However this didn't stop him from invading Georgia or Ukraine, or joining with Iran in Syria.
  • Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the Shah of Iran (and brutal autocrat) from 1941 to 1979, was quite progressive on many issues, especially for the Middle East. For example, achieving greater women's rights in Iran.[note 7] (he gave women the right to vote in 1963; women can still vote in Iran to this day), as well as being seen as more "benevolent" than his neighbors, and the people who succeeded him.[205]
  • Fred Phelps, of Westboro Baptist Church infamy, was actually an ally and supporter (through pro bono legal assistance) of the 1960s Civil Rights movement. Needless to say, he subsequently became nuttier than a PayDay bar.[206] Following a power struggle between a board of male elders and Shirley Phelps-Roper, Fred Phelps called for "kinder treatment of fellow church members". He also expressed his support for Equality House, a group promoting LGBT equality, and, according to his grandson, he had a change of heart and perhaps even abandoned his homophobia.[207][208]
  • Daniel Pipes, despite having helped spread the rumors of no-go zones in Europe[209], recanted his arguments saying that the areas were a little run down but ultimately fairly peaceful.[210] Ironically, before he became a conspiracy theorist, his 1997 book Conspiracy: How the Paranoid Style Flourishes and Where It Comes From,[211] sought to debunk conspiracy myths surrounding world organizations and, most specifically, those involving the Bilderberg Group and Council on Foreign Relations.
  • Pat Robertson has been very critical of Ken Ham and Young Earth Creationism in general,[212], believes marijuana should be legal[213] and when asked about dealing with transsexuals, he responded that transsexualism is real, sex change operations are not sinful, and that one should address a transsexual by the gender with which they identify, all despite his other bigotry and nuttiness in regards to the LGBT community.[214] In addition, after the 2017 Stoneman Douglas High School massacre, Robertson called for stricter gun laws.[215] He has condemned Alabama's controversial ban on abortion, stating it has gone too far.[216]
  • Petr Beckmann was a believer in crank ideas about physics and engineering.[217] However, despite this, he held no tolerance for those who tried to square the circle, and wrote a whole book about the foolishness of the idea.
  • Prager University getting it surprisingly right on the American Civil War.
  • Jordan Peterson has criticized the notion of basing people's value on their intelligence saying "Being more intelligent doesn't make you a better person....You can be pretty damn horrific as a genius son-of-a-bitch."[218] And YouTuber ContraPoints has noted that Peterson's basic advice might be at least a little helpful for the less extreme incels. [219]


  • John RabeWikipedia's W.svg, an avowed Nazi,[220] was one of the few foreigners in Nanking during the Rape of Nanking. He worked tirelessly to help Chinese people avoid getting raped and murdered. Known as the, "good man of Nanking" he saved thousands of lives.
  • Murray Rothbard, in spite of his historical revisionism, batshit crazy conspiracy theories, and dog whistle appeal to racists, was at least strongly pro-choice, seeing the pro-life position as being in contradiction with a woman's natural rights.[221][note 8] He was also a major critic of Ayn Rand, whose following was too cultish even for him. [222]
  • Mitt Romney, for passing Romneycare and allowing gay marriage as governor. He was also, originally, pro-choice. He also is, within the Republican party, easily the biggest opponent of Donald Trump, to the point of being called out by Trump himself for his opposition.[223] And, unlike most Republicans, he knows the difference between fascists and anti-fascists. [224]
  • Marco Rubio condemned the conspiracy theorists who claimed that the Florida school shooting in February 2018 were simply performance actors. He tweeted the following: "Claiming some of the students on tv after #Parkland are actors is the work of a disgusting group of idiots with no sense of decency."[225] He also voted against the absurdly high 2019 US Military Budget. [226]
  • Grigori Rasputin's magical cure for hemophilia? He instructed the emperor and empress to discontinue all medical treatment being received by the Tsarevich. This included aspirin, a drug which definitely does not help hemophilia (it can cause minor stomach bleeding, and in cases of hemophilia, there's no such thing as "minor bleeding"). It's unlikely that Rasputin knew that aspirin was worsening the condition, yet his advice probably prolonged Alexei's life.[227] Didn't do him much good in the long run, as hemophilia isn't really a factor when the bleeding is caused by multiple gunshot wounds.
  • The Reformed Political Party, generally a fundamentalist Christian group of wingnuts in the Dutch parliament, for absolutely destroying the Party for Freedom's proposal that was supposed to regulate the looks of Zwarte Piet by law.[228]
  • Far-left crank website RevLeft produced a wonderful post debunking the white nationalist mantra "Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white".[229]
  • Ronald Reagan was for gun control as Governor of California (albeit, in gun control, only to deal with the militant wing of the Black Panthers).[230] He also established the California Air Resources BoardWikipedia's W.svg as governor, passed health care reform which helped the poor and impoverished with federal aid money and health benefits,[231] formally apologized for the internment camps in World War II,[232] raised taxes eleven times after initially cutting taxes,[233] and improved immigration laws as President.[234] Reagan also signed Martin Luther King, Jr. DayWikipedia's W.svg (or "Hate Whitey Day", according to Ron Paul, who voted against the holiday) into law in 1983, and it was observed three years later. Reagan also paved the way for no fault divorceWikipedia's W.svg by making it the law of the land in California. His policy on agriculture, where the product was judged instead of the way it was produced, was also way ahead of its time.
  • Roosh V's website does occasionally devote some space to environmental concerns, calling an environmental collapse "the most devastating scenario short of total nuclear annihilation."[235] (*cue vomiting at the thought of agreeing with such a despicable human*) They also correctly predicted that Donald Trump would be elected President (although they thought it was a good thing).[236] They're also technically not "wrong" when they argue Americans need to eat healthier and exercise more, but they usually express this in the form of fat-shaming.[237]
  • Well-known fraud[238] and Islamophobe Robert Spencer (who called Insanity in person Wafa Sultan a "heroine"[239][240]) called out Walid and Theodore Shoebat on their unreliability and dishonesty.[241]Also, he's not as bigoted as his friend Pamela Geller, recognizing good points in Islam.[242][243]
  • The French-language version of Russia Today published a debunking of "2 Russians pursued their aggressors from Le Bourget to Saint-Denis" (unsurprisingly a hoax from...French far-right Pro-Putin websites!).[244]
  • Ayn Rand was pro-choice and was very critical of Ronald Reagan.[245]


  • Comorian revolutionary leader Ali Soilih who notably discouraged the study of history, lowered the age of voting to fourteen, and wanted the Comoros to follow the example of...Maoist China (which is NOT a good example at all), legalized cannabis, advocated secularism and is still nowadays seen as the only Comorian president who truly wanted a change in his country, despite his more than insane means to do it.[246][247][248]
  • Richard Spencer is a critic of Brexit and Euroscepticism, and supports the freedom of movement between EU countries (referring to the Schengen AreaWikipedia's W.svg). He also opposes individual ethnic and cultural nationalisms within Europe in favor of a "pan-European" identity (albeit only for whites).[249][250] He is also pro-choice (even though he believes it would reduce the number of black and Hispanic people, which he says would be a "great boon" to white people)[251], is critical of Christianity (albeit only because Christianity is an universalizing religion, and not one based on ethnic and racial ancestry), criticized slavery of non-whites[252], opposed the Iraq War[253], and despite his opposition to same-sex marriage, he barred people with anti-gay views from the National Policy Institute's annual conference in 2015.[254]
  • Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem ShiraziWikipedia's W.svg, who is an Holocaust denier[255][256][257][258][259][note 9] and issued a fatwa objecting to...women attending soccer matches in stadiums (something they are not able to do now)[260], also opposed smoking[261] and child marriage.[262]
  • Lauren Southern called Laura Loomer out on her insane Islamophobia: "I don't like Islam — but I'm not going to pretend two girls walking in the street is them "loving" a terrorist attack. That's insane."[263]
  • John Stossel debunking both New Age woo and "supernatural" claims.[264]
  • Sargon of Akkad does support some genuinely liberal / leftist positions. He is pro-gay marriage,[265] supports legalising marijuana (and decriminalising drug use),[266][267] opposes the death penalty,[267] is pro-choice[267] and he doesn't like Fox News.[268][note 10] He also made two videos eviscerating the British Conservative Party shortly after the 2015 United Kingdom general election.[269][270] Finally, he (allegedly) abandoned his 9/11 truther views.[271]
  • Saudi Arabia has as of 1976 a decree that enforces that oil by-products have to be made into chemicals. [272] On 12 December 2015 it also organized elections where women could vote (albeit mainly because other people are doing it). [273] In addition to that it also managed to have a 51 on the corruption perceptions index [274], being only outclassed by Israel, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates in the Arab world. To give a good degree of comparison, Italy has a score of 44 and France has a score of 70. Also gets credit for advanced infrastructure.[275] It also spends a lot of money on humanitarian aid (about 5,7 billion dollars total)[276], which amounts to the same amount as the one given by Belgium [277] and Italy [278] combined. While that doesn't make them the most humanitarian country in the world (Sweden spends 6,4 billion dollars on humanitarian aid [279]) it does still mean that they are a major bastion when it comes to humanitarian aid.
  • Shakers for being pacifists, letting women preach and for relative racial equality by 19th century standards.[280]
  • Shermon Burgess aka The Great Aussie Patriot, long before his wingnut persona took hold, was active on atheist forums and openly criticized the Bible claiming it was bullshit. He also regarded Christian homophobia as hypocritical and argued that Jesus was most likely gay.[citation needed] He also supports increasing drought assistance to struggling drought-affected farmers - though his opposition to Halal certification negates this considering farmers and food producers rely on halal certification to be able to sell into Muslim majority markets, such as Indonesia.
  • Antonio Salazar's quasi-fascist regime in Portugal aided many refugees from Nazi-held Europe, including a lot of Jews.[281] A devout Roman Catholic, SalazarWikipedia's W.svg criticised Hitler's racist policies (although he was very keen on preserving Portugal's African empire, even by force.)[282] and also provided passive support to the allies such as allowing them to use Portuguese air bases.
  • Ben Shapiro quitting his position as editor-at-large for when the site failed to defend their own reporter, Michelle Fields, after she was assaulted by Donald Trump's campaign manager. He called "Trump's Pravda".[283] He has also spoken out against warrantless federal surveillance.[284]
  • Theodore Shoebat opposes the Church of Scientology, albeit for theological reasons rather than rational ones.[285][286] He also pointed out correctly that some Jews helped the Nazis.[287][288][better sources needed]
  • Smoloko News is not exactly what you would call fond of Harvey Weinstein. But then again, he's a Jew, so it was expected.[289] Also, they're not fond of Fox News nor Ann Coulter.[290][291][292]They do not like Trump anymore[293](for Anti-Zionist and Anti-Semite reasons, but still), are critical of Saudi Arabia, [294][295][296][297] and are not fond of Ayn Rand.[298]
  • The Southern Baptist Convention for apologizing for slavery and segregation.[299]
  • The Evil Empire Soviet Union fiercely opposed apartheid from the 1960s onward, had universal health care (resulting in a higher life expectancy than the United States until the 1970's[300]), had a cheap and efficient space program which resulted in the first man in space and the successful launch of Sputnik. Today, both Europe and the U.S. depend on Russia for sending and retrieving astronauts to and from space and the Soyuz space capsule, which made its debut in 1967, remains in service.[301] It was also the first country to legalize abortion, albeit only temporarily[302], and had an education system which — aside from indoctrinating the students — at least managed to produce a very high literacy rate among them. Indeed, Soviet mathematics, science, and engineering are forces to be reckoned with. (Look up, for example, Lev LandauWikipedia's W.svg.) Many of their few positive traits were replicated in Eastern Bloc countries, especially East Germany which was prosperous and oddly a bit socially liberal (both by Communist standards of course). It also continued research into Phage TherapyWikipedia's W.svg after most Western researchers had abandoned it in favour of antibiotics, which today is saving lives that would otherwise have been lost due to antibiotic resistant bacteria.[303]
  • For all its promotion of quackery and woo, The Spirit Science at least draws the line at biblical literalism,[304] Young Earth Creationism and the moon landing hoax.[305]
  • Debbie Schlussel called out Walid Shoebat for being a fraud.[306] Also, Bonni Intall and Bare Naked Islam's Islamophobia was too much even for her.[307] She has also performed one public service, writing an exposé of Sean Hannity's Freedom Alliance charity for wounded soldiers and survivors of fallen ones, pointing out that only three percent of the funds collected actually go to the targeted recipients.[308] This story had originally been broken three years earlier (2007) by Daily Kos,[309] but they are liberal commies out to smear a great man by asking questions no rich white conservative should ever have to answer. She also dissed Ted Nugent for being a draft-dodging hypocrite, so that earns her another point.
  • Ben Stein's pronouncement that Donald Trump is hideously misinformed when it comes to economic policy, his criticism of cutting taxes as a means of lowering the national debt, among other things.[310]
  • Jacob Stein is not fond of Stalin, even though it's for atheophobic reasons.[311] Another good point, in his book "The Jewish Manifesto", he called Richard Nixon "probably our most dishonest president".[312]
  • Ayla Stewart is critical of Richard Spencer and the Alt-right in general.[313]
  • SyrianGirlPartisan, despite being a supporter of Bashar al-Assad, admits his government has corruption and problems.[314]
  • Christina Hoff Sommers supported individualism and free speech, and was a staunch abortion rights activist when she was younger. She was also was one of a handful who stood up for Michelle Fields, the Breitbart writer who was manhandled by a Trump staffer at a campaign event.[315]
  • Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusing himself from the investigation into Trump-Russia collusion, as he himself was implicated in the investigation. Despite enduring constant abuse from Trump, Sessions stuck to his recusal to the extent that it probably cost him his job. Many observers have suggested that Sessions' recusal was a major factor protecting the Mueller investigation's existence, and the actions of his successor, William Barr, have not entirely discouraged this interpretation.
  • Michael Savage denouncing creationism, correctly asserting that "belief" does not change the facts of evolution.[316] He also congratulated former president Barack Obama for ordering the Navy Seals to assassinate Osama Bin-Laden, and criticized any self-described "conservative" who would try to explain away how Obama doesn't deserve any recognition.[317]


  • Rafael Trujillo let Jewish refugees into the Dominican Republic during the 1930's, albeit mostly because they were "white" and not out of the kindness of his heart.[318]
  • The Taliban criminalizing the practice of Baacha Bazi (having male child sex slaves) in Afghanistan,[319] albeit really due to homophobic reasons rather than humanitarian ones. Like Al Qaeda, they see Daesh as an enemy.[320]
  • Tomás de Torquemada, known as the brain behind the Spanish Inquisition, demanded evidence of misdemeanor before a conviction held place. Granted, what was considered evidence was almost arbitrarily decided (e.g. The crime of being a crypto-Jew was identified as the abscence of chimney-smoke on Saturdays, the buying of vegetables on passover and the purchase of meat from a converted butcher) and he employed interrogation techniques that would be considered inhumane and impractical today, but it pretty much meant that those held by the Inquisition were innocent until proven guilty, something which has become today a human right on its own.
  • Thunderf00t's early videos on creationism and the Iraq war, which are generally well-crafted and accessible takedowns of right-wing woo tactics (though, like South Park's episode on professional wrestling, these videos were criticized for going after an easy target). More recently he has caught flak from all the right circles for his opposition to Brexit.
  • Trans-exclusionary radical feminists, or TERFs, in general support bodily autonomy (though sadly not for trans people) and campaign against sexual assault and human trafficking.
  • Donald Trump for communicating a desire to get Karl Rove off of Fox[321] (though the jury is still out on whether he's just mad that Rove endorsed Jeb Bush). Also said that the Iraq War was a "big mistake" and based on a lie by the Bush administration[322]. Also defended Planned Parenthood for the help it provides for women with cervical and breast cancer (even though he threatened to defund it for so long as it provided abortions)[323] He's also been lukewarm at worst on LGBT issues (for a Republican, that is), even saying that trans individuals should "use the bathroom they feel is appropriate," [324] (though he also issued an executive order rescinding Obama's recommendation that schools allow students to use the bathroom of the gender they identify as [325]) and referred to Chelsea Manning by her female name.[326] He also called out the Republicans for cutting the Office of Congressional Ethics.[327] On the bureaucracy front, he dropped a requirement that federal government agencies report on their Y2K preparedness 17 years after it came and proved to be a bit pile of nothing.[328] There is also a tape of him saying something decent on almost any issue he has subsequently said something horrible. Trump also believes that Scientology should not have a tax-exempt status. [329] Shortly after becoming President, Donald Trump signed an executive order withdrawing the U.S. from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, something he promised. However, this action is merely symbolic as the deal has not yet been ratified by Congress.[330] Also openly backed the Iranian anti-theocracy protests.[331] He issued a posthumous pardon to boxer Jack Johnson, the first African-American heavyweight champion, who was jailed in 1912 due to his relationship with a white woman.[332] He also issued a nationwide ban on bump stocks. [333] Back when he was on the Reform Party ticket he also stated his oppostition towards Pat Buchanan. [334]
  • TruthNeverSleeps is usually a paranoid conspiracy theorist, but came out against Trump after Trump tweeted he wanted to make flag-burning a punishable crime.[335]
  • William Howard Taft's support for three-month paid vacation.[336]
  • Mohammad Tawhidi strongly support Islamic unity and opposes sectarianism[337] and believes that the radical Sunni sect of Wahhabism is a cancer upon the Islamic faith. Despite being somewhat of a fanboy of the far-right, Tawhidi has at times denounced far-right extremism, such as the 2019 Christchurch terror attacks and also denounced Fraser Anning in the aftermath of the attacks[338].


  • United Patriots Front support taxation reform and wealth redistribution and favour taxing big corporations adequately rather than the working class. They also oppose subsidising big energy, mining and banking, and seem to be opposed to the Trans-Pacific Partnership and free trade agreements that don't benefit Australia, albeit from a nationalist, protectionist perspective.[339] They also didn't support Shermon Burgess' (The Great Aussie Patriot) idea to hold a 'memorial' rally commemorating the 10th anniversary of the Cronulla Riots.


  • The Flemish far-right movement Vlaams BelangWikipedia's W.svg signed a law in 1995 to criminalize Holocaust denial to prevent their party from being invaded by antisemites.
  • The Vietnamese Communists ended the Cambodian GenocideWikipedia's W.svg by invading Cambodia, overthrowing their supposed ideological brothers the Khmer Rouge, and installing a less oppressive regime.
  • The Vigilant Christian has been particularly critical of Donald Trump[340][341], and does not believe bipolar disorder is Satanic, even warning his viewers that telling people otherwise could cause them to kill themselves[342], though that doesn't explain why he thinks that Jesus played a part in healing his own. [343]
  • Varg Vikernes thinks American neo-Nazis and white supremacists are laughable, essentially arguing that American whites' historical treatment of American Indians means that they are living on stolen land. He has also argued, more or less correctly, that there were few, if any, documented cases of genuine devil worship before the twentieth century; most were instead cases of paganism literally being demonised.


  • Fredric Wertham, the author of Seduction of the Innocent (what instigated it), investigated the effects of school racial segregation on children. This research was used in Brown v. Board of Education, where he testified on behalf of the NAACP. He also opened his own practice on the New York neighbourhood of Harlem, providing mental health care for underprivileged African Americans.[344] His interest in comics was not wholly negative, having written one the first studies on the fanzine community (which was positive).[345]
  • Scott Walker signed into law a ban on "revenge porn" as Governor of Wisconsin.[346]
  • Marsha West is best-known as the Jesus freak RenewAmerica columnist who denounced yoga as "mystical" and "evil". However, West has also been quite vocal in her criticism of Christian Dominionism, seeing it as too extreme even for her.[347]
  • The Mormons began allowing black men to hold the Priesthood (essentially meaning they were able to give blessings to people) in 1978,[348] though it did so under pressure from the government.
  • Kaiser Wilhelm IIWikipedia's W.svg improving protections for German workers.[349]
  • What was the issue that finally caused Geert Wilders to withdraw his support for the right-wing coalition that was in power in the Netherlands? He and his party refused to support austerity measures being put into place by the (usually) more reasonable moderate right party.[350] His party also voted to interdict the practice of refusing marriage to LGBT couples for religious reasons and that measure wouldn't be in place had he not voted with the left for the referendum. [351] He has also called out France's Jean-Marie Le Pen and Austrian politician Jörg HaiderWikipedia's W.svg, comparing them to Mussolini and denouncing them as being "rightist fascists".[352]
  • George Wallace apologized later in life for his racial views and backed the New Deal. [353] It's very likely his segregationist antics were an act, but that does not make them better.
  • The Westboro Baptist Church has criticized the Ku Klux Klan for their racism, pointing out The Bible doesn't say it's a sin to be born a certain race.[354] For their part, the KKK has denounced the WBC for being "hatemongers."[355] They also opposed Kim Davis, albeit for her many divorces rather than humanitarian concern[356] and have criticized the ex-gay movement, if only for preaching that gay people can still get into heaven if they repent and become heterosexual. They also oppose Donald Trump.[357]
  • The MMS is so self-evidently bullshit that even expresses skepticism, preferring "proven" radionics devices.[358] Another good point for them : they denounced the Iraq War.[359]
  • Blaire White being big enough to admit wrongdoing and apologize[360] to other transgender people she's systematically misgendered and slagged off as not truly trans, such as Riley Dennis. Even though White only apologized based on finding out that Dennis had been receiving hormones and laser hair removal - and not, you know, for being hurtful regardless of Dennis' transition - it was still a nice gesture. She has also demonstrated some willingness to correct a few of her other previous statements.[361]
  • Woodrow Wilson expanded antitrust laws with the Clayton Antitrust Act[362] and effectively banned child labour with the Keating-Owen Child Labor Act.[363] He also was President when the Federal Reserve was created.[364] He also accepted the theory of evolution.[365] Also, to his credit, he did try to create a proto-UN after WWI, which the U.S. entered late, ended, albeit Senate isolationists voted it down.[366]


  • Malcolm X was rather virulently in support of "eye for an eye", in contrast to the pacifism of Martin Luther King Jr, and was quite inflammatory for much of his public life. However, after visiting Mecca he renounced the crackpot Nation of Islam in favor of mainstream Sunni Islam[367] and seemed to move more towards civil disobedience later in life through the Organization of Afro-American UnityWikipedia's W.svg.


  • Harun Yahya, in the aftermath of 9/11, wrote a book titled Islam is Not Terrorism.

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  1. Female suffrage was supported by the Catholic Party of Belgium and the Parti Social and Action Française in France.
  2. However, it's still their own vision of education...
  3. It is important to remember that many other religious institutions and organizations, as is most notable with the Catholic Church and Conservapedia, still haven't looked past the violent nature of video games to look at actual developments within the video game industry.
  4. However, unsurprisingly, like Pamela Geller, they believes all Muslims are anti-Semites. On top of that, they defended...Charles Maurras. An anti-Semite. Not a double standard at all...
  5. Of course, this is because he thinks the US is Satanic...
  6. Possibly due to nostalgia/inspiration from Napolean's reforms
  7. Which is rather ironic, as he was a blatant sexist.
  8. Though he took it to the extreme; believing that a mother also had the right to neglect, abandon or even sell a child.
  9. Want to know the irony? He's ethnically Jewish!
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