Talk:Aleksandr Dugin

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"Every Westerner is a racist"[1]

Dugin: Different societies have different values.  There are no universal values.  Those who are held are a projection of Western values.  Western civilization is a racist, ethnocentric civilization.  Every Westerner is a racist - not biological, like Hitler, but culturally.  That's why he thinks there is only one civilization - or barbarism.  And this civilization is based on democracy, progress, human rights, free market economy and individual identity.  But barbarism negates all this, for some religious reasons.  That's what the Westerners think, that's why they are cultural racists. 

SPIEGEL: Danilewski spoke of the clash of civilizations 150 years ago.  Why do the Slavophiles consider a confrontation with the West inevitable? 
Dugin: The conflict of civilizations is inevitable. 
SPIEGEL: The philosopher Ivan Kirejewski wrote in the 19th century: Everything that opposes the full development of orthodoxy hinders the development of the Russian people and their well-being;  it violates the soul of Russia, it destroys its moral, social, political health.  Would you sign that? 
Dugin: Yes. 
SPIEGEL: Does not that lead to intolerance of other ideas - to the intolerance you accuse the West? 
Dugin: No.  The orthodox spirit is not exclusive.  In contrast to Catholicism, orthodoxy has a certain flexibility.  We Russians are not nationalists, we have never been a nation.  When we talk about "ours," it's not ethnic.  The Chechen also belongs to us or the Usbeke.  We have told the Turkish or Mongol peoples: You are now part of the Orthodox culture, but we will not persecute you.  You will have your mosques, you will be able to pray.  When we speak of an orthodox national spirit, that does not mean that we declare war on other cultures. 

Exoteric and Esoteric Judaism Isaac Luria and Sabbatai Zevi in Russian Orthodoxy Professor Alexander Dugin[2]

I occupied myself with the great themes of Tradition for many years. I have written some books on the sacral geography, metaphysic of Orthodox Church, geopolitics and so on. Besides Rene Guenon I was also reading the precious books of Gershom Scholem, whom I consider to be the greatest traditionalist thinker. I am happy that I can develop some of the considerations on Qabbalah tradition that I have collected through the years. — Unsigned, by: 110.141.69.34 / talk 02:02, 13 April 2018

Anti-science

In this Big Think article Dugin calls for research into physics to be suppressed and technologies like the internet to be abolished. Probably worth mentioning.

110.141.69.34 (talk) 09:11, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Weird bullshit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinabuch

"The Palestinabuch (Book of Palestine), is an allegedly lost manuscript by the German-Dutch historian and antisemite Herman Wirth (1885–1981), founder of the German Ahnenerbe [a wing of the Schutzstaffel], which its adherents claim would have changed the world if it had not disappeared."

"Dugin, who does not cite any sources, claims that the manuscript counted several thousands of pages." Chillpilled (talk) 16:27, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

"Tankie"

No, he's not a tankie, he's not a communist, he's barely a fucking philopher, so I don't think those two things should stay on the article. A somebody. (talk) 19:28, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

His support for Stalin makes him a tankie IMO. If others disagree you can remove it. GeeJayK^{Where all evil dwells} _{Where every lie is true} 19:29, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Was hitler a tankie between august 1939 and June 1941? A somebody. (talk) 19:31, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Did Hitler admire Stalin as a great leader that saved the world from fascism and modernized Russia? GeeJayK^{Where all evil dwells} _{Where every lie is true} 19:33, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

I don't think Dugin did that. And besides he was still an anti-communist dissent in the 80s. A somebody. (talk) 19:35, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Did Hitler say something like this GeeJayK^{Where all evil dwells} _{Where every lie is true} 19:38, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Why are you edit warring again? Didn’t you learn what happened last time? Rational Dude (talk) 19:39, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

I AM NOT FUCKING EDIT WARRING! I HAVE TAKEN IT TO THE TALK PAGE LIKE IT IS REQUESTED OF ME! A somebody. (talk) 19:41, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Turn off your Caps-Lock... Arcadium Trancefer (talk) 19:44, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Dude, don’t use caps lock and curse. And you are edit warring. Rational Dude (talk) 19:46, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Dugin is not a tankie, he's a fascist nutjob heavily dependent on nostalgia for a failed socialist state. He does not care about historical materalism, nor the theories of marx and engels generally. He's a fascist nutjob plane and simple. A somebody. (talk) 19:49, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

A tankie is, by the definition of our category, not always a commie, but also someone that supports Stalin and communist dictators. Dugin fits it pretty well. GeeJayK^{Where all evil dwells} _{Where every lie is true} 19:51, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

He wasn't even alive during the stalinist era. And regardless if that's the case, is hitler a tankie? How about FDR? And answer the question this time. A somebody. (talk) 19:54, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

I don't see what being alive during the Stalinist era has to do with being a tankie or not. Regarding Hitler and FDR, not, they loathed Stalin and were allies with him because they believe it was necessary. I don't see what they have to do with anything either. GeeJayK^{Where all evil dwells} _{Where every lie is true} 19:56, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

It's a value-judgement snarl word to describe the politics of someone who's a genuine piece of shit no matter what you call him. Yeah, "tankie" is a pretty vague and amorphous term, but anyone who says "the kulaks deserved it" and "Stalin was a great leader" is a piece of shit by definition. Why are you in such a row about this? Carthage (talk) 20:02, 5 September 2023 (UTC)