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Talk:Argumentum ad cellarium

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Hee! 17:57, 31 August 2010 (UTC) SusanG Toast

cellarium![edit]

cellarium! Totnesmartin (talk) 18:06, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

My bad, I only remembered the classic "cella". Do you want it moved back? Röstigraben (talk) 18:13, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes please... I've been poring over old Latin dictionaries in google books. Cellam exists but cellarium is more frequent. Totnesmartin (talk) 18:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Or how about "cellarium parentibus"? Röstigraben (talk) 18:24, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Wait, scratch that - that should be "parentum". Anyway, whichever you like best. Röstigraben (talk) 18:29, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
(EC)parentum (of the parents)? I omitted the parent- part for brevity and lulzworthiness. Totnesmartin (talk) 18:34, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
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Yeah, but thinking about it, it's probably better to use an adjective and make that "cellarium parentalem" (if at all), because I'm not 100% sure about which case to use for the second noun. Man, it's been ages since I had this stuff in school. Röstigraben (talk) 18:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
"Parents' basement" would be "cellarium parentum" (parentum = gen. pl. parens, parentis). Blue Talk 19:07, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Argumentum ab cellarium parentum? Occasionaluse (talk) 19:09, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
No, that would be the opposite, and ab takes the ablative, not the accusative. I don't think parentum is necessary to add, it looks fine the way it is. Blue Talk 19:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
I've tried several web translators & they all agree on "parentis" but fail to xlate "cellar" 19:13, 31 August 2010 (UTC) SusanG Toast
Never try to use a web translator for Latin, the cases and complex tenses make them all but useless unless you're looking up one word's meaning. And "parentis" is the genitive singular, so you're probably typing in "parent's" instead of "parents'." Blue Talk 19:15, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
heh! it's 50 years plus since I took Latin: most of it's disappeared into the haze. I just remember "amo; amas; amat" 19:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC) SusanG Toast
All I remember is "veni, vidi, vici". ħumanUser talk:Human 12:43, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

ipsum lorem, tu quoque

And, dog Latin Caesar adsum iam forte, Pompey aderat. 82.44.143.26 (talk) 17:43, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Martin's Law[edit]

Yvain from LessWrong has created Martin's Law, named after Totnesmartin, that the first person to use an argumentum ad cellarium loses - David Gerard (talk) 21:17, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Love the comments, especially the spam responses. Sophiebecause liberals 21:43, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Good Lord, you know Hirez? - David Gerard (talk) 23:09, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Only via LJ, which I haven't been to for a year or two now. I know him via Quercus (Andy Dingley on WP), and I know him via a real life friend. Sophiebecause liberals 13:36, 5 April 2012 (UTC)


Do cave dwellers[edit]

... have 'argumentum ad arbordomus (tree house)'? (Parvum lingua latina parlam)

Could the correct Latin term be used for 'pie in the sky discussions'? 212.85.6.26 (talk) 15:50, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Where do...[edit]

speleologists, mushroom growers and 'keepers of fine wines' fit into this discussion (as all have valid reasons for being in the cellar). 86.146.100.18 (talk) 13:12, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Used against women?[edit]

Is this argument used against women sometimes? Men's Rights EXTREMIST (talk) 03:13, 9 February 2016 (UTC)