Talk:Chateau Heartiste

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White nationalism[edit]

Need good cites for the claim of white nationalism. I can find weak cites, but not enough to disillusion a fan, e.g. [1][2] - though his comments on a WN blog may do [3] (search "Heartiste") - David Gerard (talk) 14:58, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't think the claim of white nationalism stands, but he is a big fan of the "HBD" stuff. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 15:05, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
I've removed the claim. That song he thought was a great idea, however ... - David Gerard (talk) 00:48, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Citation for support of "HBD" would be gold - David Gerard (talk) 22:15, 18 March 2014 (UTC) Edit: just added the main thing I found - sets out his position pretty well - David Gerard (talk) 22:20, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
I've waded a bit through that cesspool of a blog, and I do think it is warranted to say that 'Heartiste' is a white nationalist and racist.
Ranting about a conspiracy by "the elites" do purposefully destroy the white race by hybridization:
Demanding action of whites against becoming a minority, like forcefully deporting minorities:
Another claim of "white genocide" and "anti-white ideology" by "the elites":
"Overrunning white countries with uruk-hai":
"White civilization" getting destroyed:
His only problem with white nationalism as a movement is that it is not misogynistic enough: - but ideologically he's on line with them.
So in short, it's always "us oppressed whites" and "white civilization" and "whites should act"... not generic "HBD", but a focus on the "white race". This is definitely white nationalism and racism.Octo8 (talk) 22:41, 18 March 2014 (UTC)


We are getting legal threats in back channels about this article, a review of the material would be nice. Tmtoulouse (talk) 20:29, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

IANAL but i don't seen anything problematic. He's a public figure and this page expresses opinion. I would contact Popehat if there is any serious shit. PalMD 21:48, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Second paragraph is well-cited. First paragraph could do with a cite for each claim - David Gerard (talk) 22:11, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Shameful article[edit]

This is supposed to be a "rational" wiki? Such propaganda! Comrades Marcuse and Alinsky would be proud! Alas, that it's just another fearful, reactive, blatantly overstated, leftist groupthink exercise. This ironic website is 'paranoid runaway selection', a.k.a. echo chamber phenomenon, with a hardcore legitimacy fetish. Anything but rational and circumspect, it's unintentionally funny to the degree that it doesn't matter. Were it any better, it would be far less amusing. — Unsigned, by: Naysayer / talk / contribs

For a wiki called "Rational", you've certainly just strawmanned, texas sharpshootered, and ad homonymed this article to death. That doesn't mean you're wrong about the referenced blog, but you aren't using any rationality to come to an unbiased and nuanced conclusion. Also, your complete disregard of the long list of articles referencing scientific studies is strange. has many good cites of actual studies, despite being in a "bombastic" style.

This whole article is a mess, and could be pointed to as evidence that this wiki is not truly neutral and rational. You are undermining your own stated aims with this biased polemic. — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs 04:18, 12 September 2016

"But I thought this was supposed to be RATIONALWiki!" Drink! Reverend Black Percy (talk) 09:02, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Pardon the above. The article was pretty shit. I've tried to tag and tell more insane quotes. FU22YC47P07470 (talk/stalk) 22:59, 13 September 2017 (UTC)