Talk:Christopher Monckton

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Sources[edit]

Must find sources for this other than his ideological enemies at the Guardian ... - David Gerard (talk) 15:40, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

More dirt here but I'm still struggling to make sense of exactly what happened and track it down. Scarlet A.pngbomination 16:22, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
And, of course, this spectacle. Scarlet A.pngbomination 16:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
I just tried to watch the Alex Jones YouTube. I lasted fifteen seconds - David Gerard (talk) 16:36, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Lordship (Lordness?)[edit]

AFAIK, he was born a commoner - his grandfather got one of the last hereditary peerages handed by the Crown after he was already born. Relevant? --ZooGuard (talk) 09:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Not really, doesn't play into the pseudolaw he uses nor the annoyance of the House of Lords. If you can work it in without it looking like a lump on the side, fine by me - David Gerard (talk) 11:02, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Who cares if he's an aristo?[edit]

I think it's a mistake to over-emphasise the fact that Monckton pretends to be something more than he is. The point is that he's wrong. He'd be wrong if he was in the Lords right now, he'd be wrong if he was Lord Speaker. In fact, even if these opinions were held by the Lord Chief Justice, Lord Judge (who should frankly get to shout "Bingo!" any time someone reads out his name) they would still be wrong.

And on the other hand, if an ex-medic jumps into a debate to tell people they're underestimating the complexity of some proposal for reforming the NHS, and the effect it will have on patients, we should not reject his sage advice just because he's a Viscount or an Earl or whatever.

Why I bet that from time to time even a US senator has said something wise. 82.69.171.94 (talk) 21:11, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Hilarious delusions of grandeur are always worth mentioning. ADK...I'll dance your businessman! 21:43, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
What's even worse is that in many of his presentations, he stamps a huge copy of his seal on graphs that makes them difficult to read. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 22:40, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Because he's using it to give himself false authority and importance? Somewhat similar to the cranks with PhD in an unrelated field or from a diploma mill who insist on being called "Doctor".--ZooGuard (talk) 05:48, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

An invitation to a Monckton event[edit]

I am attending an invitation only lecture by one Christopher Monckton on Friday afternoon. The topic: "Is Global Warming another Y2K". For some reason a totally unscientific, no political organisation with no links to climate in any way, shape or form has invited him to speak. I got invited as I work for a similar organisation. As soon as I saw it was Monckton I knew I had to go. I will report back. Aceof SpadesSilverbrain.png 20:59, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Take a camera, in case there are any slides with swastikas. And it's funny he's comparing it to Y2K - that was an actual problem, though overblown by the media and some End Times types. It was a non-issue because a lot of money and effort was spent to fix it.--ZooGuard (talk) 06:52, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
Don't forget a bingo card. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 06:54, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Birther[edit]

That word you used, I do not think it means what you think it means.--ZooGuard (talk) 16:36, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

And again: Monckton in a US flag suit, with a cowboy hat and a crucifix on his neck. And here's the source video. Pretty... republican of him. :) "Hell hath no fury like a Viscount scorned (by the House of Lords)"?--ZooGuard (talk) 19:10, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
And again: A column in WND calling out not-birther Republicans for "treason by inaction".--ZooGuard (talk) 14:56, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Deleted Ankh-Morpork quote[edit]

I would rather keep the AM quote, as it's rather descriptive and dead on. I'm letting the mob decide, but being a Pratchertt fan, it sits quite well with me. :-)--Green mowse.pngGodot 15:59, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I like it too, but it doesn't add a great deal and the article's a bit quote-heavy - David Gerard (talk) 18:41, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
^--il'Dictator Mikal 18:48, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
With Brx who took it out, clearly voting "out" that's 3 to 1. gone it is.--Green mowse.pngGodot 19:05, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
I'd prioritise quotes from Monckton, rather than about him, unless the source is more notable than just "commentator". Which is sad, because it is quite a good one, but it's also terribly niche. Scarlet A.pngpathetic 21:27, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

The source of the head quote[edit]

Appears to be this, but I can't watch videos right now.--ZooGuard (talk) 08:48, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

It's also linked here (same YouTube clip - audio only with a static image, and the same introduction text), and the quote does indeed appear at the end of the clip: "All it's gonna take, is to get one or two of them in front of a court, for fraud, for racketeering, for false accounting; and all the others who have been playing this game will run for cover so fast, you won't see them flashing past you as they scuttle down, in to their noisesome lairs, there to snivel in the darkness and never be heard or seen by us again." --Editor374 (talk) 09:00, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Well found. I couldn't find a definitive source when I looked - just a few unreliable pages with the quote and nothing to say where it came from. I can't watch video here either but if there's video I'd say that's a valid source. Especially if the name of the program / interviewer is present. rpeh •TCE 09:11, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
The quote was on Monckton's Wikipedia article around 2010, most of the Google results with it reproduce that version of the article. The interviewer is Bob Parks, Black and Right is his website.--ZooGuard (talk) 09:23, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Pity there's no good transcript - anyone bored enough to do one? - David Gerard (talk) 17:31, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Eyes[edit]

"There are a lot of reasons for which Monckton can (and should) be mocked, but his physical appearance is not among them."

I'm glad someone wrote this, his Graves' disease is unfortunate.— Unsigned, by: Albannach / talk / contribs

That would be me, to prevent a re-insertion of the tasteless description of the picture that was changed to something more normal by User:Doctor Dark before me. (Though "tasteless" may be a too mild word here.)--ZooGuard (talk) 11:05, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Well done. I'm sure you agree people should be criticised for their life choices and actions (Monckton has made plenty of bad ones). Not what they can't help. I think sceptics can be bad for this sometimes. Really we should support science in curing these disorders, rather than mocking the afflicted. I have a good friend who is deformed, but is one of the nicest folk you could hope to meet, if you can get beyond external appearances. He's had to put up with a lot of trouble because of this. I think if we mock people for these things, we lend our critics ammunition, and lack compassion.--Albannach (talk) 16:37, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Silver?[edit]

Anything this lacks for silver? - David Gerard (talk) 12:28, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Monckton weighs in on the Houston prayer subpoenas controversy[edit]

When the lesbian, sad mayoress decided to enact an ordinance allowing her ilk to terrorize properly brought-up young ladies by exposing their flaccid, rearranged pudenda in the female bathrooms that are now open to males... And it doesn't get any better. Did he try deliberately to make it as "offensive" as possible, or something?--ZooGuard (talk) 11:26, 23 October 2014 (UTC)