Talk:Heart Attack Grill

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ALLCAPS

My bad on all the capitals guys. Won't use as many next time. Aaronmichael5 22:10, October 9th 2019 (UTC).

That's fine. You can still use them sparingly. But the for the most part, just let the words speak for themselves. --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 22:14, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Topic

Lots of errors here. Bacon is Not included free with the bypass burgers (it’s sold separately as an addon). And flatliner frees are not free. They are sold separately. Even water is not free. It’s sold separately (and so on; you get the idea).

Nurses stopped using wheelchair-to-car service a few years ago. Nurses provide paddling to any customer that requests it (or can be refused).

Cash only.

- A list of calories would be useful. I was told the Single Bypass burger without bacon is 1500! ^{— Unsigned, by: 2605:E000:3E02:A400:8CB0:19F2:71B7:C3A4 / talk}

Why?

I may be missing something. Why do we have this?Bob^{"Life is short and (insert adjective)"} 11:58, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

I guess the implicit food woo. Bongolian (talk) 06:26, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

im not seeing the woo. AMassiveGay (talk) 12:39, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

In their early years, the Grill was more enthusiastic in their embrace of sexism.[1][2] The waitstaff is still promoted as female "sexy nurses" with boobs showing. They continue to mock medicine, despite two actual heart attacks associated with their food, and the death of their 575 pound spokesperson from pneumonia (obesity increases risk of pneumonia) (Heart Attack Grill § Illnesses and deaths). Do you think that adding this would make the page more missional (@Bob M, @AMassiveGay)? Bongolian (talk) 04:08, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

The owner, Jon Basso, actually arrested after threatening nurses who picketed his restaurant in Arizona. The nurses were picketing because of the restaurants use of the word "nurse" in reference to the waitstaff. In Arizona, "nurse" is a protected term, and the AZ Attorney General filed a complaint about the Grill.[3] Bongolian (talk) 04:27, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

honestly, just seems like a greasy spoon with a particular gimmick leaning into the heart attack inducing quality of the greasy, fatty foods on offer. the clientele no doubt know its unhealthy, dont care that its unhealthy, and probably eat that kind of food everyday of the week already and have put themselves at risk of heart attacks and all the other health risks associated with a diet like that long before stepping foot inside the restaurant. its not like they are pretending the food isnt incredibly unhealthy. complaining about the waitstaff being called nurses seems rather petty in my mind. if nurse is a protected term in arizona its so people know that anyone offering their services as a nurse meets the required standards of training to call themselves a nurse and can safely expect a certain level of care at the bare minimum, protecting the public from charlatans and substandard care. its not to shut down a pantomime because its in poor taste. sure the sexy nurse thing is sexist, but no more so than hooters say, and we dont have an article for them. its only in one location so not a big franchise like macdonalds, it doesnt appear to sponsor the olympics like macdonalds does, associating junk food with the peak of physical fitness, its not ubiquitous like macdonalds that its fare becomes seen as something you can eat everyday with no ill effect that it has a responsibility to recommend a salad now and then. we only know about this place because the gimmick has such a successful marketing tool. embracing the crazy high calories and how unhealthy the food is just caught everyones attention in a world where macdonalds and their like are responsible for more obesity and more heart attacks than this place could ever be, but deny it while asking if you want fries and supersize it.

heart attack grill is just selling greasy food with a bit of theater. if you are actually at risk of a heart attack so much you might die during your meal, its not the meal thats to blame its your own life style choices over your whole life thats at fault and your just as likely to die straining on the toilet. AMassiveGay (talk) 11:27, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

I don't really think we should be giving the the free publicity.Bob^{"Life is short and (insert adjective)"} 16:04, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

For people, we've used the 'Are we giving them more publicity than they already have?' rule-of-thumb for deletion. The owner is clearly a publicity hound who revels in bad publicity, so I don't that that it's the case that we're giving significant publicity. Go ahead and AfD it if you want. Bongolian (talk) 18:10, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for that opportunity. But if was really concerned I would have raised an AFD when I first asked the question two years ago.Bob^{"Life is short and (insert adjective)"} 18:24, 1 December 2024 (UTC)