Talk:Jordan Peterson
He's Ba-ack![edit]
Jordan Peterson is back in public life, apparently; he isn't on the lecture circuit yet, but he put out a YouTube video recently and has written a new book called 'Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life.' Considering that the article's timeline ends with him retreating from public life to recover from addiction to benzos, I think it's in need of an update. — Unsigned, by: Hyasynthgirl / talk / contribs Requesting thread archival (why?) Plutocow (talk)
Women in workplace[edit]
Recently his daughter Mikhaila Peterson revealed Jordan Peterson's 'mask-off' views about women being allowed to work in academia. According to her, Jordan Peterson said something akin to "Women came into the workplace, they're ruining universities." Mikhaila, the ever reasonable one, disagreed with her father's misogynist viewpoint by arguing "It's not just women [...] men were in universities when women got into universities and kind of let this happen. Why don't you talk about that ever?"Mikhaila Peterson Talks Controversy, Woke Culture, F3minism, University Indoctrination, and MORE! | FreshandFit Podcast
I think this point is useful to highlight Jordan Peterson's true beliefs about women in the workplace. He usually dances around this point but never says it explicitly, which his fans view as his "just asking questions". — Unsigned, by: Darthvlad / talk / contribs Requesting thread archival (why?) Plutocow (talk)
Persistent double standards in politics[edit]
The thing I like least about Peterson when it comes to politics is his constant double standards. I think SJW extremists do exist and have done bad things on campuses, but it doesn´t even remotely compare to what Trump is up to, i.e actually plotting a coup. I think the most disengenous thing about him is he pretends all the violence is on the left, whereas far more violence in the US is committed by reactionaries. — Unsigned, by: John stetson / talk / contribs
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A clocked stop: Jordan Peterson opposes the death penalty[edit]
Is this particularly remarkable for a right-wing Canadian to say this? --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 06:22, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not that much. Most Canadians are against the death penalty including people towards the right of the political spectrum. Same with most European countries. ShabiDOO 09:10, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Anti-Elmo sentiment[edit]
A couple things the article doesn't mention. In 12 Rules for Life he added "an aside on how much he despises Elmo of Sesame Street: “I always hated that creepy, whiny puppet. He was a disgrace to Jim Henson’s legacy.”" Also, if I remember right the book Maps of Meaning talks about a dream he had where he saw his grandma's pubic hair. I mean if you've ever been weirded out by any of his tweets, it's not even that far off from what he puts in his books is it? Chillpilled (talk) 20:19, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
H-index doubts[edit]
Is the H-index really that impressive?
Like, sure. Looking at my own 150~200th-ish global ranked institution, 20 can indeed be considered fairly respectable and 40 is head-of-department territory (51 is the highest dude of all the psychology faculty, with their own wikipedia page too). Yet, I don't know.. I feel like something isn't right? Has not to be?
And yes, there are generic criticism to H-index itself, then there's citation inflation, and last but not least one could even pick up that no shit harvard and UoT are way more situationally favoured in getting big D citations than even the best italian university or the average community college (and no, his presence there just cannot be considered a natural consequence of his merit, given his main referee recanted himself).
But nothing of this seems really that big of a punch (or perhaps the fact is just that only when all is put together it has a significant effect). Maybe the attention should be brought to the issue that absolutely none of the crazy shit he spews daily is thematically related to his fair (more than "decent", but less than "stellar" once accounted for the nitpicks above) academical work? Like, he would have (or at least would have had) scientific credibility if he ever touched the topic on alcoholism or personality research, but once he starts to deadname people he's disowning even the most basic standards of human decency on top of clinical praxis. I wonder if you couldn't even find him contradicting some finding of his own papers. --Mirh (talk) 16:16, 28 January 2024 (UTC)