Talk:Mary (mother of Jesus)

There was a book I glanced at once - IIRC Mary was a 'young person' (which is what the term translated as 'Virgin' means) who had been married to a member of an alternative royal to Herod, who then died, and, pregnant, she was married off to Joseph, to avoid scandal/keep Herod from being suspicious about the child.^{— Unsigned, by: 82.198.250.66 / talk / contribs}

Virgin Conception and Birth

Didn't Jesus have other siblings, like James, from his mother and supposed father? Are these also claimed to be children of God since Mary is supposed to be perpetually virgin, or how did Christianity work this out? Biraqleet (talk) 20:29, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

My guess would be that Christianity wouldn't recognize any siblings of Jesus. Sam ^Tally-ho! 20:40, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

I think the Catholic position is that Jesus didn't have brothers and sisters and that Mary was a virgin before, during and after the birth of Jesus. Protestant churches have other ideas.--Bob^{Spring is sprung!} 21:18, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Heir to David?

Part of the story involves Jesus being descended from David - Joseph being the link... but he was, according to the story, not directly involved, so Jesus is #not# linked to David.

Can someone resolve this paradox? 82.44.143.26 (talk) 15:40, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

It depends on who you ask, but Mary may have also been descended from David. I've never really gotten a straight answer on your question, though. It really just seems like a kludge to get Jesus to fulfill a prophecy, but it could go back to that thing of "was Mary really a virgin or was this just a mistranslation?". On the one hand, if you take away the virgin part, it makes Jesus less super-special awesome, but if you leave it, the lineage thing doesn't make sense. It really doesn't make much sense either way, but I think people prefer nowadays to go with the virgin birth and ignore the lineage issue, since most people aren't too concerned with biblical prophecy these days. (ʞlɐʇ) ɹǝɯɯɐHʍoƆ 16:43, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm confused by the question. Are you asking which myth is "true"?--Bob^{Spring is sprung!} 16:53, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

The thing is, even experts cannot and do not agree about the nature of the lineages, because of the total ambiguity of not having a father. Children of that time were never identified through their mothers. And yet Jesus' father is god. what a problem....GodotI live in the Infinite monkey cage 19:15, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

A problem indeed. It's akin to asking about why Little Red Riding Hood was unable to see that a wolf had replaced her grandmother. Is there a rational explanation? Or is it really not worth discussing?--Bob^{Spring is sprung!} 19:38, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

(this is godot, fixing bosses machine, don't want to log in here), There really is a very important reason to discuss it. For those who are looking at teh bible as a work of literal fact, it makes them have to really bend over backwards. Which is what you go to a circus for, right? teh acrobats. so it's just entertainment. No, really, these kinds of things are discussed in my world because they make people think about the book as a historical narative, which helps break them of the "it's literal, it's god's word" view. Always a critical point.67.176.120.18 (talk) 21:07, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Age of consent and the usual age of marriage in Mary's time according to biblical scholars

Although Mary's age isn't specifically mentioned in the bible, biblical scholars experts recognize that most Jewish girls back in the day wed when they were 13 and consummated that marriage on their wedding night, thus the bible would legally be considered a work of child pornography by today's legal standards; luckily for the Abrahamic religions, there's a double standard.

In accordance with Jewish law; a man is expected to regularly sex with his wife, along with food and clothing it cannot be withheld. Exiled Encyclopedist (talk) 06:06, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

This isn't interesting. King Skeleton (talk) 06:11, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Awesome--Miekal 06:16, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Dubious claim

According to the article: "In Ancient Greece, so many women claimed a god had fathered their child that one king decreed the death penalty for women who insulted a god by making that claim." I can't find any evidence to back this up. Can anyone find something reliable for this, or should the claim be removed? JumboWhales (talk) 19:10, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

I'd say delete it. It doesn't seem to be in this searchable book, The Cult of Divine Birth in Ancient Greece.[1] Bongolian (talk) 19:24, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Deleted. Thanks for the feedback. JumboWhales (talk) 22:40, 28 October 2024 (UTC)