Talk:Nobel Prize

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Can anyone think of a category to put this in? Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 02:10, 23 October 2008 (EDT)

Good question... on CP it would be easy "liberal... X". How about "science" for now? Since the "real" Nobels are all science prizes? ħumanUser talk:Human 03:21, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
It strikes me as a bit of a stretch, but I can't think of anything better. I'll go ahead and add it. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 03:28, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
As long as we're adding it to "science", I'm also going to add it to human rights; let's not forget the Nobel Peace Prize (one could also argue that the science awards also further human rights, but that's an argument for another time). Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 03:31, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
Sure, OK. The "peace prize", of course, is a Johnny-come-lately and not part of Nobel's legacy. We need to make that clearer. ħumanUser talk:Human 03:39, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
Peace was one of the original 5 [1]. - UserPlease set to always render PNG. I have wasted alot of time to make this work. 03:43, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
What's a "Johnny-come-lately"? Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 03:45, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
Someone who was not there from the start, like me. - UserPlease set to always render PNG. I have wasted alot of time to make this work. 03:46, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
Peace - added much later.(& not selected by the same committee I think?). Isn't there a category: "International organizations" or similar? There'd be lots of candidates worthy of reference: UN, Amnesty Int'l, Greenpeace at first thought & Nobel Org, or whatever, would be a candidate. CaycePattern
It was not added later, read the link. - UserPlease set to always render PNG. I have wasted alot of time to make this work. 03:50, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
You're right, my mistake it was economics that was first awarded in 1969. memory lapse sorry. The peace prize is the odd one out because it's administered from Norway , all the rest are Swedish. CaycePattern 03:56, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
I was told by a Norwegian that was because Norway never started a war or something. - UserPlease set to always render PNG. I have wasted alot of time to make this work. 06:04, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
Really? We can only blame them for the Vikings then?--Bobbing up 06:11, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
Vikings are a liberal myth to take credit away from Christians. - UserPlease set to always render PNG. I have wasted alot of time to make this work. 06:17, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
An interesting, if somewhat confusing, Scratchchin.gif proposition.--Bobbing up 06:21, 23 October 2008 (EDT)

Jewish Nobel Prizes[edit]

I created a separate article of Jewish Nobel Prizes, which is a recurrent topic in discussions about the Israel / Palestine conflict, and about Islam. It was deleted, but I have asked for reinstatement. Otherwise, the issue could go here instead. Any comments? Drelane (talk) 12:04, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Yep. Keep Dawkins out of this article. For someone who is not aware of the context, your wording would imply that Dawkins made a comparison solely between Muslims and Jews, misrepresenting the incident. It should be covered with the appropriate nuance in Richard Dawkins, not here.
And if Dawkins is not included, I can't see much point in mentioning Jewish laureates.--ZooGuard (talk) 18:48, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

My edits have been reverted. The reason to include the issue of Jewish Nobel Laureates here is that lists of Jewish Nobel Laureates are used for propaganda purposes, specifically against Muslims. Richard Dawkins did make a specific comparison between Muslims and Jews, on the basis of the number of Nobel Prizes won by each group, and was criticised in the British media [2] for Islamophobia. The high percentage of Jewish Nobel laureates, about one-fifth of the total, is also cited as evidence for the claim that Ashkenazi Jews have a higher-than-average IQ. So it is not simply Dawkins, and the Nobel Prize article seems the appropriate place to include the issue. Some people here evidently think it is antisemitic to raise the issue: perhaps they can explain why.Drelane (talk) 10:07, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

What part of the point above didn't you understand? Also, how many Ashkenazi Jews have won a Nobel, if their IQ is so relevant? Raise it on the Dawkins page, in the proper context - and without quoting the Daily Fail as a source - or stop your whining. --PsyGremlinHable! 10:32, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

In the US 27% of Nobel prize winners have Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry. [3] Maybe it is better to start a separate article on the Ashkenazi intelligence issue. Drelane (talk) 11:27, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Economics[edit]

There is no Nobel Prize in economics. There's a prize that a bunch of quacks call a Nobel Prize in economics, but it is not one of the actual Nobel Prizes, nor was it established by Alfred Nobel. The article should be edited to reflect this.70.71.152.200 (talk) 18:37, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

You are right, the economics price does not have to do anything with Nobel... Pizzameister (talk) 00:38, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
And a mathematician shagged Nobel's wife, so there's no Nobel prize for them, either.--Kugelschreiber (talk) (mail) (block) 17:44, 29 February 2016 (UTC) 17:44, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
That story lacks credibility... Mathematicians actually getting some? Puhlease... Pizzameister (talk) 17:53, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

The case of Jocelyn Bell was not sexism?[edit]

I find it problematic that the article implies that sexism was not a reason why Jocelyn Bell was denied the Nobel Prize: "Prizes in the natural sciences are often given to individuals with the broadest scope of contributions, rather than just initial discoveries, so while Bell's lack of a prize was controversial and widely criticized by the astronomy community, it wasn't due to the assumptions at play among those who simply want to attack science." People have been awarded the Nobel prize for just discovering things. Koichi TanakaWikipedia won a Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 2002 solely for "initial discoveries", and he only had a bachelor's degree. MayGodSaveUsAll (talk) 21:26, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Bell even said "the fact that I was a graduate student and a woman, together, demoted my standing in terms of receiving a Nobel prize." [4] MayGodSaveUsAll (talk) 21:34, 19 November 2023 (UTC)