Talk:PewDiePie

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Outside the YouTube community, he is generally best-known for becoming a human meme,[citation NOT needed] So true hahaha! ^{— Unsigned, by: 190.236.213.102 / talk}

BuzzFeedNews

So along with Heavy.com, BuzzFeed News reported back in April that the Poway shooter (Timothy Earnest) claimed, "with no evidence, that the act was planned and financed by Felix Arvid Ulf Kjellberg, the Swedish YouTuber known as PewDiePie." https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/poway-san-diego-synagogue-shooting

I'd make a simple edit to address this at the end of this article - something along the lines of...

However, Heavy.com notes that "the reference appears to be an effort to troll the media," and further BuzzFeedNews reports that there is, "no evidence, that the act was planned and financed by Felix Arvid Ulf Kjellberg, the Swedish YouTuber known as PewDiePie." Kjellberg has not publicly commented on the shooting.

Problem is this page won't allow edits so there's not much I can do aside from make a note and link to the corroborating news source... ^{— Unsigned, by: 76.218.230.54 / talk}

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They are not indian men, they are sri lankan men, who hold up a sign saying "DEATH TO ALL JEWS" https://variety.com/2017/digital/news/pewdiepie-response-apologizes-anti-semitic-jokes-attacks-media-1201990168/ --2405:204:7046:D47C:9409:4DC9:8F76:1EE1 (talk) 05:24, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

I don’t think Pewdiepie is racist

@Gunther1987 If he‘s racist, he wouldn‘t say this. Iwillprobablygetbanned (Talk to me!) 11:13, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Not Gunther, but. I guess I’d be willing to hear you out but I’m not sure I want to watch a whole PewDiePie video just yet. If possible, could you please summarise what Pewdie said, ideally with direct quotes, and your interpretation of them? Many thanks. 💝 ASELA^कुरा 💝 11:30, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

„Fuck anyone who‘s racist and fuck anyone who‘s white nationalist that‘s not what I‘m about and that‘s not what this channel has ever been about.“ Iwillprobablygetbanned (Talk to me!) 11:54, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Okay well. It’s good he’s finally crossed the bar of “not openly allowing and supporting the white nationalist elements of his fanbase”. It’s a low bar but definitely good progress on its own. I’m curious, though, if you could please give me more context? Was this video in response to anything in particular? Was this said ironically, sincerely, reluctantly? I feel like that statement on its own is definitely a good start, and (assuming it was sincere) I appreciate the progress from pewdie. Still, I’d like it if you could explain more fully the context of the video, statement, etc., and why you think it affects his racism. Thank you. (Also just to be clear — while I do not like pewdiepie, I’m not asking these questions as a trap or whatever — I just don’t follow youtube enough to understand the context of his videos, and since you seem to be fairly good faith, I’m very interested to hear your perspective) 💝 ASELA^कुरा 💝 12:11, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

The Video was made, because a Petition wanted to ban Pewdiepie. He also apologized for saying the N-Word during his livestream; he said it was stupid and foolish of him. And I don‘t think he said this ironically. Iwillprobablygetbanned (Talk to me!) 14:01, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

I think PDPs problem is one not neccessarily unique to him. If you've ever seen the Alt-Right playbook, there's the likely possibility that he got caught up in what's basically a "negative feedback loop" (mentioned in the "radicalizing a normie" video). Let's preface this with the reasonable assumption that PDP is about as racist as any other ignorant white guy. Which is to say, not a lot, but probably accrued some internal biases. Then, that incident with Fiverr happened, and because he's from the early days of the internet, that likely was just an edgy joke to him. Mainstream outlets don't take it as a joke, which means that he gets polarized against them. The resulting blowback makes it so that the minority of Nazis in his audience feel validated and start pushing their rethoric in his comments, which leads to the situation where he felt comfortably saying the n-word, the fact that he ended up talking/endorsing to some alt-right personalities, and so on and so forth eventually resulting into the Chirstchurch shooter. From what I know about PDP (and note; I don't regularly watch him, I think he's kinda cringy), that seems like it might have been a line too far for him, given that most of the stuff that caused him to reach notoriety since then is him trying to get out of that Nazi hole (the donation to the ADL, which he ended up retracting since Nazis in his audience didn't like it, which... dubious, but I'm trying to do a best faith reading here).

Basically, he made an edgy joke, got blowback for it, but instead of learning, his audience pushed him deeper in. It's a nasty vicious cycle tbh. As to what is likely why he wants to get out; Christchurch, and the very likely fact that he got married. Techpriest ^{(I am Alpharius! / / / )} 15:48, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Article's missionality

It was suggested to me to add the template, so I oblige. Pewdiepie had a few massive fuck-ups years ago and hosted right-wingers, but nowadays he distanced himself from the far-right and said fuck-ups. This article's missionality is honestly questionable. MarioSuperstar77 (talk) 15:21, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

I will add that yes the terrorist attack could be missional, but on its own rights, Pewdiepie would, at best, be a footnote on the Christchurch's shooter article. MarioSuperstar77 (talk) 15:26, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

On the other hand he's acted as a consistent gateway to further right individuals (which we cover quite well!). He's somewhat on the same degree as people like Joe Rogan in that regard, in that uncritical watchers of him are likely to be goaded into watching authoritarians. This isn't helped by most of his audience swinging really young, which makes them easily influencible by these kinds of individuals because they're kids. He has significant notoriety in the segment of pop culture that he inhabits (the man is the most subscribed video games focused YouTuber) which cannot be ignored. He's relevant if only on that basis alone. "No longer topical" isn't exactly a defense either because he hasn't ever stoppped generating these problems, even if he has apologized for them. Pewdiepie is about as relevant to the mission of this site as someone like Notch is, which is to say: quite relevant because of overall significance in the culture they inhabit (which happens to be the same sphere here). I would say that PDP is more than missional as a result. Techpriest ^{(I am Alpharius! / / / )} 22:15, 6 March 2021 (UTC)