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Purely a suggestion, but QAnon seems to be getting a lot of press lately[1][2] and even has a Wikipedia article (QAnonWikipedia's W.svg), so because the focus of this article seems to be shifting to QAnon and away from discussing what Trump meant by "the Storm", would a move be called for? If nothing else, QAnon is a more distinctive title. --Gospatric (talk) 15:13, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Seems perfectly reasonable. Do it. Cosmikdebris (talk) 15:36, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
I would agree, though a re-direct might be advisable. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 15:42, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
I prefer a rename, just because QAnon is better title, as Gospatric said. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 16:14, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Done, moved with redirect. Cosmikdebris (talk) 16:18, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

I like the now totally nonsensical disambiguations. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 16:20, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Qwerty[edit]

Have 'they' discovered that the first letter on the English keyboard is a Q? Anna Livia (talk) 20:05, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

You know what gets me[edit]

Next election, there's gonna be a republican candidate for some major office who either straight up believes this shit, or leans really heavily on pretending they believe it to win the election. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 15:37, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

I think there may already be one.[3] Bongolian (talk) 16:26, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Ha ha, Larry the Cable GuyWikipedia's W.svg is in this mess. I remember when he used to call into 98 Rock in Baltimore in the mid-1990s. Cosmikdebris (talk) 00:02, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Fuck[edit]

fuck. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 17:55, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Already on it yesterday: QAnon#Train passengers. Bongolian (talk) 18:28, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Fuck? ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 18:38, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Another ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 17:48, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Daily Beast is reporting that it's possibly an act, and she has a huge uphill battle in any case. ℕoir LeSable (talk) 19:37, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for Silver[edit]

Looking at the article rating guidelines, this one certainly qualifies. Cosmikdebris (talk) 00:02, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

I agree. Bongolian (talk) 00:04, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Thirded. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 13:49, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

So what would it take for gold, so we can get the thing on the mainpage? — Dysk (contribs) 18:45, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

I think it could be expanded as far as background and who are the supporters and profiteers. It could be useful to read through the Wikipedia page on QAnon to see what they do better, and and significant things that they have and we do not. Bongolian (talk) 19:08, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
I think we should have a section that shows the connection between this thing and Pizzagate, and I also think there should be a section detailing some of the most demented claims, such as the idea the Kim Jong Un is a CIA puppet, or that Debbie Wasserman Schultz hired MS-13 to assassinate a DNC staffer. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 19:30, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Personally I think a section on the psychology of it: when prophesy fails, motivated reasoning, etc, might be nice. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 19:37, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Is the psychology behind it really likely to be different than any other conspiracy theory (bigotry, hatred, credulity, and greed)? Bongolian (talk) 07:43, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Map dissection[edit]

I moved the map dissection here because it made the main article a nightmare to read and edit. Hopefully that works for everyone. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 01:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

@Bongolian I'm pretty sure you're the one who made it, so are you cool with this? Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 01:33, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
@DuceMoosolini No, I'd rather have it back on the page for search engine indexing purposes. We had a discussion about what to do about this previously on the tech support page (RationalWiki:Technical support#Section link fail), and that was the agreement. It was just between @D, @Ikanreed and me because it was regarding a technical issue. If you want to do something else, I'd be happy to hear you out. Bongolian (talk) 01:52, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
I like this piece in the main article, but it could stand alone as a work of wiki art all its own its own article. Cosmikdebris (talk) 02:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
You can have the best of both and transclude it if you like. It will appear as part of both. Just stick {{:QAnon map dissection}} where you want the list on this page. — Dysk (contribs) 13:09, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
I like Dysk's solution. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 16:20, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
That's fine with me. Bongolian (talk) 17:33, 25 May 2019 (UTC) Why did @Dysklyver undo the edit? Bongolian (talk) 17:36, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for gold[edit]

@Bongolian You think this is ready for prime time? Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 17:51, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Is there a way to collapse the big box at Note 2? --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 18:02, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
@LeftyGreenMario I've added a collapse in the footnote. Let me know what you think. The page is certainly worthy of nomination, @DuceMoosolini. I'll have another read through later. Bongolian (talk) 18:13, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
It's better. But anyway, since we already created a separate page and linked to it, is this sort of thing necessary, now that I think about it? --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 18:20, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes, this is the solution more-or-less agreed upon to keep it there for the purposes of search engine indexing. Bongolian (talk) 18:30, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

How's about I put it this way? Does anyone object to QAnon becoming a cover story/gold? Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 21:57, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

I don't have any objections per se. I just want to read through it once more. It's a good idea to have more than one person read through a cover story nominee in its latest incarnation from beginning to end before it becomes a cover story. Bongolian (talk) 22:18, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
I've now done two passes through the page, once for text and once for references. It's ready for Gold as far as I'm concerned. Bongolian (talk) 18:24, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

How convenient that I was able to pump the Notch article out into a readable state just in time to see this sucker hit Gold. I can see Moose setting up the templates in the recent changes tab, looking forward to reading this one in its entirety soon! --Yay for me, Rbl sigpic.png RightyBlueLuigi!(Not a Mod) 00:49, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Shoutout to Bong for taking the bullet and being the guy who cleaned up the references. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 01:01, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
This is a really good work, and work like this is one of the reasons I stick around here. Well done and thanks to all the contributors. Cosmikdebris (talk) 02:02, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Back to the map dissection issue[edit]

So, the method that was suggested by @D for retaining the map dissection within the page for the purpose of search page indexing ({{:QAnon map dissection}}) does not actually work for the purpose of indexing. This search for example (qanon + 777 + rationalwiki)[4] shows that although our QAnon page comes at the top, it is not because "777" has been indexed from it. The second search result shows that the separate map dissection page did get have "777" indexed. Any objections to my putting the whole thing back in the footnote as collapsed text, @DuceMoosolini, @Ikanreed, @Cosmikdebris, @LeftyGreenMario? Bongolian (talk) 03:53, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

* deep sigh* I suppose not. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 03:55, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
Just wondering, how important is it to sacrifice loading time for these results? --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 04:19, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
Slower loading is probably better because as part of the QAnon conspiracy, "5G is a kill grid that will lead to forced vaccinations"[5] 🤯. Bongolian (talk) 04:28, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
Doing a specific search for "777" qanon does result in this page appearing in 4 position, meaning Google knows 777 is in the page but just isn't showing it on the snippet. I don't personally mind but do believe that Google puts less importance to material in collapsed sections (if hidden on page load) so would recommend having it uncollapsed. — Dysk (contribs) 08:51, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
OK, we'll leave it as is then but without the collapse. Bongolian (talk) 00:13, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Gematria[edit]

QAnon has found the joys of manufacturing any number you want through the conspiracy theorist version of gematria, New gematria. I’m going to put a quick update in my gematria article in the near future. Mostly just acknowledging its daily use on Twitter and their fondness for Trump’s penchant for TWEETING IN ALL CAPS. If you feel it’s worth I can put a one sentence cross reference on this page, but I seek guidance on where it should go, if at all.Antigem (talk) 01:01, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

I think that would be a great addition! I also think it should go under the "Other assorted insanity" subhead as another bullet. Or else it could get its own section in that area of the article. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 01:09, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Ok, I’ll whip something up and throw it in there in the next few days. Thanks.Antigem (talk) 01:27, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

@Bongolian Thanks for saving me the time to research and post some additional reference links.Antigem (talk) 19:56, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

@Antigem New information added to cover stories needs to have references, otherwise it should not be added. Bongolian (talk) 20:16, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Glossary?[edit]

Is there appetite/need for a separate page to include a glossary of QAnon terms, symbols, and mottoes, similar to the glossaries for alt-right and manosphere (boom, WWG1WGA, breadcrumbs, etc.)? CogitoNotStirred (via telepathy) (talk) 03:35, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Probably would be helpful, yes. --85.76.22.232 (talk) 10:01, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Cranky[edit]

I don't know how to use this page, sorry. There is new information that confirms the Q connection to the NSA and Julian Assange. It is what Corsi figured out early on. The tripcodes not to mention the recent news that fulfills a large amount of Q research. What so many short sighted debunkers don't realize is the Q is 4chan and for chan is everyone. NSA, FBI, cia. The goid guys. Then u have your next level autists who also know what is going on. That's the white hats and it includes some amazing people...until 8chan picked it up when it became myth. Qtards seeing how far they could go in research and monetization. q has been a psyop, a community, a research group Politicians....Trump drew Q on tjr air twice. The Q motto is build it and they will come. And though it spins off into mythos. The 4chan posts w the WikiLeaks podesta+ leaks, the internet and the q map w the compass rose decoded. That's what they taught me as a recipe to wake up and blammo. One can't not wake up. A great deal of the anti q Truther community is paid to slam it by the Democrats. Ha! Yes. Q IS 4Chan. It's Seth Rich, It's exposure of George Soros and the Clinton Foundation. It's Epstein and NXIVM and me too.

As gor pizzagate. Wrong again. Start at the pizza Connection mafia trials them go to Alefentis and Brock and Pizza Pac to re-election Obama. Don't be fake news. https://archive.org/stream/Q-Anon/Q_s_posts_-_CBTS_-_3.9.0_djvu.txt 96.30.138.130 (talk) 07:30, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

What did I just read --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 07:58, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
"Be still Taggart. My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives."—Hedley Lamarr Bongolian (talk) 17:23, 31 August 2019 (UTC)