Talk:Unification Church

Can someone who knows more about this stuff work a reference to Bad Moon Rising into this article? human 14:28, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

Ooh, ooh! Not me. -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 14:32, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

Wow, I didn't know he was into guns, too. That is one another one of Assfly's pet projects. Has CP turned into an unholy alliance between the moonies and the fundamentalist evangelical Christian right? Rational Ed^perception 14:47, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

They're all a bunch of loonies. -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 14:52, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

Yea, but loonies that are in cahoots, with significant amounts of money and political influence behind them, get my attention a lot faster than a stupid conservative propaganda site that masquerades as an encyclopedia. Rational Ed^perception 15:11, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

You missed the pun, didn't you—"loony", deriving from "luna", for moon? -- Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 16:30, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

I have two objections to the LaRouche quote. LaRouche is the head of an equally egregious cult, and it is an unsupported slur on gnosticism. Rational Ed^perception 16:23, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

Hm, the holy hanky thing is an example of their gnostic-sexual rites, and LaRouche is not on my Hannukah card list either. Fox 16:48, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

The LaRouchies vs. the Moonies thing stems from the 1980s when both cults were rivals trying to curry favor with the Ronald Reagan administration. The Moonies won out, while the Heritage Foundation convinced the Reagan administration to tell the LaRouchies essentially to bugger off. Notably, both LaRouche and Moon served prison terms during the Reagan administration for tax code violations. The two cults have been after each other since, which of course makes for good investigative muckraking but it should be taken with several truckloads of salt. Secret Squirrel 07:25, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

The LaRouche quote is superfluous anyway, although backed up by just about everyone else. Fox 07:33, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

Here's a site which may be of use to anyone researching this. DogP 17:21, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

I'd be in interested in seeing a citation that your "holy hanky rite" has anything to do with gnosticism at all. I suspect LaRouche uses the term "gnostic" as a code word for something else entirely. Rational Ed^perception 20:20, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

Family disruption

I've googled for 30 minutes & can't find any documented evidence about Moonies causing family break ups. Quite a bit of anecdotal rabbit on blogs but nothing concrete. Susan^{Talk(if you must)} 11:21, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

IIRC this is mentioned less often now, but peaked in the 70s. They seem to have a similar approach to that of the Scientologists, carefully controlling contact with non-cult family members, etc. I'll have a squint through a few articles too. Fox 11:25, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

Refs

Kan we haz better than "WP"? ħuman 05:24, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Of course you can: "XL". How's that? ^{This message brought to you by: respond}_and honey 06:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Ouch, it still pinches in places I'd prefer it not... ħuman 06:51, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Reporting from heaven

Just came across this. It's messages from 12 (dead) journalists from Heaven in praise of Moon & the "Divine Principle". It's on the UC site, so presumably is authorised but I can't find any commentary about it. ^{This message brought to you by: respond}_and honey 01:24, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Intelligent Design

I added a section describing how the Discovery Institute's head nutjob Jonathan Wells comes from this Church. Isn't it a wonder how little mister bullshitter comes from this place after having been given a mission to "destroy darwinism from within"

- AgnosticoRationale

Can you provide a cite? That would indeed be interesting. Тy^Bored 23:14, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Shinzo Abe

The motivation of Shinzo Abe's accused killer is connected to this church and the financial ruin he says it brought on his family. Would be good to mention it in this article. --Spafky (talk) 10:23, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

This seems to explain the connections as far as currently known.[1] Bongolian (talk) 15:40, 15 July 2022 (UTC)