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Archiving

That's the first time I've ever hit an edit conflict by trying to archive a page at the same time someone else was doing the same thing. I couldn't figure out why there was content when I hit "new archive". --Kels 19:32, 2 November 2008 (EST)

Weird. We haven't lost anything have we? - User $\pi$ 19:36, 2 November 2008 (EST)

Nope, I never saved. I was going to cut one section more, but it isn't really a big deal. --Kels 19:40, 2 November 2008 (EST)

Grammar

I hate to be a punk, but please don't make us look like jackasses on Conservapedia:Theory of evolution. [1] You need to spend some time with an 8th-grade grammar book.

I'll go ahead and block myself for a while for being an asshole to you, but it needed to be said. Please be much more careful in the future, for the sake of RW's reputation. Coarb 02:38, 11 November 2008 (EST)

Thanx

For the sysoperisation. _and marmite 08:13, 13 November 2008 (EST)

Sig

You could use 355/113 if you wanted. Just saying. Matt 21:11, 23 November 2008 (EST)

Not long and convoluted enough. Thanks for the suggestion though. - User $\pi$ 21:43, 23 November 2008 (EST)

"Women" Essay and Me.

Sorry. I can't stay involved with an organisation that somehow that somehow thinks that some drive-by moron's right to "free speech" is more important than doing the right thing and getting rid of a nasty bit of hate speech.We shouldn't waste server space on a misogynist piece of shit essay like that--we certainly don't worry about "free speech" in other situations. After all, we don't link to Metapedia, and we don't link to Westboro. So we'll stand up for blacks, Jews and gays, but when it comes to women, not so much. This place may be fighting the good fight, but it's obviously still very much an "old boy's club" in many ways. PFoster 09:44, 25 November 2008 (EST)

This essay has been troubling me too, I agree with you it is not the sort of thing we want on our website and it is not the sort of thing want to endorse, but were do we stop? Do we remove every statement we don't agree with from a (l)users page? Do we remove every none ideological pure edit? How long before we end up like Conservapedia, with Trent yelling "you are participating in Conservative deceit and we wont be tricked by that here". Given that we have linked to Mein Kumpf, and we do link to Metapedia be it through tinyurl so as not to give them hits, I have always been perplexed by the Westbro link. Fall Down is a troll and a misogynistic asshole, but everyone has the same rights on this wiki, something they may not have in their own country. I don't want to see you leave. You have been a valuable contributor. However we have principals that we adhere to and "freedom of speech, even for idiots" is one of them. Feel free to trash him on his talkpage if you wish. - User $\pi$ 18:52, 25 November 2008 (EST)

Thanks!

I thought you were a bot, but apparently not. Cool! I've been visiting here for quite a while, but finally decided to create an account. I probably won't contribute a ton (especially the controversial parts), but I hope to be somewhat involved. Nice image rotater, by the way . Alecwh 00:19, 26 November 2008 (EST)

Yes it is like that because I don't do to much "actual work". - User $\pi$ 23:43, 25 November 2008 (EST)

How are new people here most likely to help? Alecwh 00:19, 26 November 2008 (EST)

? - User $\pi$ 00:37, 26 November 2008 (EST)

I go away for two days and see what happens.

You can talk about slippery slopes all you want, but it works two ways. The wiki is now not only a haven for misogynists, but for Osama bin Laden apologists. Moving it to the essay space won't change that. This is a problem that I think needs to be addressed in a better way than it is now. PFoster 14:16, 26 November 2008 (EST)

An apology.

An apology.

We disagree on a fundamental issue. So be it. That was no reason for me to use abusive language last night. I'm sorry. PFoster 20:48, 27 November 2008 (EST)

That is okay, I was not bothered. I can understand why you got so worked up, what that horrible little troll wrote was very offensive. - User $\pi$ 21:40, 27 November 2008 (EST)

You dishonorable scum; you dare to alter my words! Fall down

I like working with you

Or let me rephrase that, "I like the way you work with others". Very nice having you here, you're a real asset to the site. ħuman 04:06, 2 December 2008 (EST)

Okay thanks, a little unexpected. - User $\pi$ 04:16, 2 December 2008 (EST)

Just checking some recent edits, and how easy you are to work with at the timeline. Sorry if this too gerflempt, but you are very good at playing with us other children in this kindergarten. And I thought it would be nice to say so, since sometimes these wikis get rather confrontational. ħuman 04:31, 2 December 2008 (EST)

That's nice. I have always found everyone around here easy to get along with, there doesn't seem too much big ego stuff or people treating what we do as the most important thing in the world, I think that has fostered an environment where we can do some good creative work. Also as you are our single biggest contributor, thank you for all the time you put in, I now you always seem to be around when I am ;) - User $\pi$ 04:36, 2 December 2008 (EST)

I also love struggling to solve your sig file equations... they always seem to come close to the same answer, though. I make it about 3 and a bit or two? Maybe even 3 and one seventh? Am I close? ħuman 04:43, 2 December 2008 (EST)

You know I can't even remember why I picked 3.14159 now. - User $\pi$ 04:45, 2 December 2008 (EST)

You might like Wikipedia better

They have pretentions to being a "serious" encyclopedia.

"Like I said the other day over at the proxy page we need to increase our quality control if we want to be viewed as anything other than a hang out for vandals"

A hang out for vandals, and lulz. Otherwise, why bother replicating what Wikipedia already does? Secret Squirrel 22:45, 9 December 2008 (EST)

We aren't trying to replicate what WP does? ħuman 22:49, 9 December 2008 (EST)

Secret Squirrel from what I can work out, you come around here once a week and be a dick because you got upset with someone months ago over you libertarian views. (Please don't tell me it is still that chickenhawk thing) Do I think this is a serious project? No. Are we a complete joke project like uncyclopedia? No. What ever we are we are not a repository for what ever shit pops into your head. If you have a problem with site policy or an article content take it up on the appropriate talk pages. We have had an influx of libertarians recently, Bluesprite is an example, and they seem to have enjoyed debating people in a rational manner instead of being a pain in the ass. - User $\pi$ 22:53, 9 December 2008 (EST)

What libertarian views? Secret Squirrel 22:56, 9 December 2008 (EST)

What ever Sir Chuck was going on about, it gave me the impression you were a libertarian that got in a fight with our over whelming liberal majority. - User $\pi$ 23:02, 9 December 2008 (EST)

Nope, centrist who thinks loony libertarians, the loony left, and the loony right are all equally worthy of ridicule. "Direct action" worthy of ridicule because it is the stock in trade of all three of those loony groups. Secret Squirrel 23:08, 9 December 2008 (EST)

Okay my apologies. Are there also loony centrists? - User $\pi$ 23:11, 9 December 2008 (EST)

Joe Lieberman fits my definition of a loony centrist, but otherwise I can't think of any. Secret Squirrel 23:13, 9 December 2008 (EST)

Personally, I have enjoyed many of SS' contributions (fishing, hunting, were teh funny, and many of his additions to the US State articles), also, we have conflicted here and there - well, disagreed, anyway. So be it. We like all kinds here - country, and western! ħuman 00:07, 10 December 2008 (EST)

What is with Dan Aykroyd today? - User $\pi$ 00:09, 10 December 2008 (EST)

So . . . . .........

what was your reason for blocking me? Carptrash 23:59, 14 December 2008 (EST)

I feel so . . . .. . . . . . . ........., so used. Carptrash 00:04, 15 December 2008 (EST)

WTF

I trust you, but wtf? Researcher 23:59, 14 December 2008 (EST)

I renamed a particularly unpleasantly named sock from our friend Fall down, it upset me seeing it in the recent changes list so by blocking nearly 50 people it pushed it out of the list. - User $\pi$ 00:02, 15 December 2008 (EST)

I.... I feel so left out. Pinto's5150 ^Talk 00:08, 15 December 2008 (EST)

OH NO! RATIONALWIKI HAS ITS OWN SAMWELL/MEXMAX. RUN FOR THE HILLS, SOMEONE CALL KARAJOU AND THE FBI.-caius (tinker) 00:33, 15 December 2008 (EST)

Pi, what's with inviting Fall Down back in? weaseLOId~ 21:56, 15 December 2008 (EST)

Well, driving PFoster out was so yesterday... --Kels 22:01, 15 December 2008 (EST)

He can edit so long as he uses his new account. - User $\pi$ 22:21, 15 December 2008 (EST)

What makes you think he'd prefer that to creating more socks or just recreating his old name (as he's already done)? Better not to feed the troll at all. weaseLOId~ 22:23, 15 December 2008 (EST)

I just wanted to piss him off. - User $\pi$ 22:25, 15 December 2008 (EST)

The Information Warrior's Handbook/ExampleX

Why retitle all those spoof articles? They're already linked as examples in the Information Warrior thing, but are also of interest in their own right rather than just as addenda to an essay. weaseLOId~ 19:57, 16 December 2008 (EST)

The auto summary is probably a little misleading I was decategorising them. I can't interest you in my latest project can I? - User $\pi$ 20:00, 16 December 2008 (EST)

Sorry, I misunderstood. Thought you were retitling them. I'm actually gonna retitle them to what they are (I.E. move them to what are currently the redirects). I think people should look at the Conservapedia spoofs category page & see what they're all about, not just a list of example1, example2, etc.

Not sure about RWWW. I think it's been tried a couple of times before. I'm not really bothering with RWW at the moment, especially as Fall Down's been invited in & is trying to ingratiate himself there. weaseLOId~ 20:11, 16 December 2008 (EST)

I was going to add it to the fun space once I finished taking the piss. It is more as a reaction to them opening the door to our favourite troll. - User $\pi$ 20:13, 16 December 2008 (EST)

To done list

Finish the automated Holydaze template

Did you manage to get the on- and off-times to sync better with the 47.9 hour "day"? ħuman 20:13, 17 December 2008 (EST)

I should descratchify that. I can do fixed dates but not moving yet. - User $\pi$ 20:15, 17 December 2008 (EST)

Duty? Or Doody?

I am to report for duty, according to the rude message on my talk page. Sir! So, fellow irrationalist, what have you for a peon to do? --Irrationalatheist 06:59, 18 December 2008 (EST)

Ummm... Nobody has ever asked before, I suppose you continue doing, what you were doing before but now if someone needs putting in the vandal bin or a page needs deleting you can do it yourself, pretty much ... umm... and stuff. - User $\pi$ 07:02, 18 December 2008 (EST)

wigo img thing

not sure what you were trying to do, so I rolled back my undo... what was weird is that with your "img=on" thing, the img link didn't show. with it gone, the img link was there! I think. I'll stop meddling now and let you work. ħuman 19:15, 24 December 2008 (EST)

My copy of Capture can get the pictures and upload them but doesn't put the img tags on itself. I think the code was broken at a critical point by email client and I am trying to teach myself perl on the fly. I think I am going to have to wait until Trent gets back to and just add the tags myself from now on. - User $\pi$ 20:54, 24 December 2008 (EST)

More Hebraic agony

It would be nice to have Passover and that other Jewish holiday automated... as I understand it only requires a few chunks of code and 20 sub-templates ;) ħuman 19:15, 24 December 2008 (EST)

The Jewish holidays are fixed in their calendar. I did once ask Trent about installing the necessary parser function so we can have multiple calenders, but he didn't the time to look it to it then. If we can also install the Thai solar calender we will be able to get the equinoxes and solstices to appear at the right time with no effort. - User $\pi$ 20:57, 24 December 2008 (EST)

Ye deck swabbing duty

Ahoy matey, I hear tell ye has given me a mop an' bucket t' swab th' deck. Scuttlebutt has it th' bilge rats had a grog party with much rum an' rhymin' an' stealin' with th' landlubbers. Ye want me to swab that mess first or go straight to th' fo'c'sle an' swab there? Any chance ye wants me t' make a landlubber walk th' plank right away? ☠ 07:07, 28 December 2008 (EST)

I think you can go straight to th' fo'c'sle an' swab. How do you make your symbol appear on Windows running Firefox 3? - User $\pi$ 07:10, 28 December 2008 (EST)

Arr, ye has not th' wingdings font installed on yer ship? This piratey symbol appears on Windows running Firefox 2 so mayhaps th' Firefox 3 does not have that bit o' flotsam in its rigging yet. Mayhaps ye needs t' rig th' block an' tackle in yer Firefox 3 wit' all th' MS fonts. Just a guess. Ahoy! ☠ 07:18, 28 December 2008 (EST)

Swoit

Thanks for the sysoping. I'll try my best not to break the site, no promises though. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to do the mandatory "just testing" 30-second block of my own account. -Redback^G'day 07:12, 28 December 2008 (EST)

Block?

Could you please block my account? --CPAdmin1 18:12, 2 January 2009 (EST)

Okay I'll leave email enabled if you ever want it reversed. Farewell and good luck with the future. - User $\pi$ 18:14, 2 January 2009 (EST)

Tim, feel free to sock up to ask us to unblock you at any time, and I second the good luck wish.-caius (tinker) 18:17, 2 January 2009 (EST)

I have undone the block, retire if you want, but this isn't a circumstance that we "block" for. tmtoulouse 18:28, 2 January 2009 (EST)

I have reblocked him with no little boxes checked. If he wants to be blocked let him. - User $\pi$ 18:30, 2 January 2009 (EST)

I feel pretty strongly about this, and am willing to wheel war about it, but lets try it the more productive way. RW has a long standing history of avoiding blocks as much as possible. I spent hours of my life writing an extension that allowed vandal control without the need to block. Vandals are regularly unblocked, or blocked for only a few hours. Blocks for personal reasons have always been done by the individual who wants to be blocked. Self-blocks are fine by me, as long as the person is a sysops they can unblock themselves. But a block of a non-sysops for any significant amount of time has never been done, and goes against both written and de facto policy. Why should we violate all of that for a user who doesn't even want to participate here? tmtoulouse 18:39, 2 January 2009 (EST)

Because he said please. - User $\pi$ 18:41, 2 January 2009 (EST)

Really??? tmtoulouse 18:42, 2 January 2009 (EST)

OCD

Will y=ou slow down for f***s sake _ you're taking over the site! Toast 19:39, 2 January 2009 (EST)

Say someone who has been here since October and has the eighth highest edit per day count. - User $\pi$ 19:42, 2 January 2009 (EST)

Sorry, that was heat of the moment after I tried to edit that Debate which you deleted! Toast 19:52, 2 January 2009 (EST)

(Connection troubles!!!!)

I mistook it for someone trying to start a debate without reading what he wrote. I think you are right, I need do need to slow down and check what I am doing sometime. - User $\pi$ 19:55, 2 January 2009 (EST)

Capture bot

I totally forgot that I had thrown in the lazy method for tagging by month and then never changed it........hmmmmm, that sucks...oh well. tmtoulouse 23:42, 2 January 2009 (EST)

I think I have fixed it now. Next time it runs it should get the spelling and year right. - User $\pi$ 23:44, 2 January 2009 (EST)

I sent you some new source removing some error checking that might have been causing it to break out of the loop before tagging. Does what the code is doing make sense? I am notoriously bad at commenting what the hell I am doing. tmtoulouse 23:47, 2 January 2009 (EST)

Okay when something gets WIGOed I'll give it a go. My guess on how it works is it goes through each link to CP on an entry without a img="on" tag, takes a picture of the interested area of the link, uploads it, continues until it gets to the end of that entry, it is suppose to then add the img tag, then go one to the next entry. - User $\pi$ 23:54, 2 January 2009 (EST)

Basically, I was just curious if you were motivated enough to try and change some things around that I am not sure I have time for. I liked the idea, I think it was Jeeves, of changing the naming routine for the wigos to the hash code so that we could use a template to link to images. tmtoulouse 23:56, 2 January 2009 (EST)

I'll give it a go. - User $\pi$ 23:57, 2 January 2009 (EST)

The WIGO extension will have to be updated once it is changed so don't go "live" with any changes till I have had a chance to up date that. tmtoulouse 00:04, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Sysopship! At last!

At the risk of sounding all gushy, oh thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, etc. I have always looked up to and admired those with POWER and POSITION and STATUS. Now I, Horace, walk amongst the Gods. Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... no really, you made the right decision. --Horace 17:48, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Your welcome. It seemed strange that you as an early member weren't already a sysop. - User $\pi$ 17:50, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Wow, I feel appreciated:) Guess I'm good for something after all. Thanks man!--Nate River 20:43, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Changing Titles

For future reference,how do you change the titles of articles afterward? Yes, I'm an idiot, but this type of editing is new to me.--Nate River 20:21, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Moving them is the only way to do it properly. Which do you need doing? - User $\pi$ 20:23, 3 January 2009 (EST)

I just wrote an article on The American Dream and I forgot to capitalize the title.--Nate River 20:27, 3 January 2009 (EST)

We only capitalize titles if they are proper nouns (so, yeah, "American". But "dream"?) ħuman 21:57, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Save meeee!

Hello again Pi, as you are someone who has a rather nifty sig, I figure you'd be the right person to ask for a wee bit 'o help... Or a stern block for asking such a silly question.
I've managed to do something rather, well, let's just say interesting with my sig. I've put my sig into two subpages under my namespace (/sig and /sigtalk). However, when I sign, the entire list of <option>s still remains in the wikicode, instead of just the randomly selected quip. My current sig looks like {{SUBST:User:Redback/sig}}{{SUBST:User:Redback/sigtalk}}. Have I done something wrong? Thanks in advance for your help/banhammerforbeingstoopid. -Redback (too scared to sign)

What you need is another template. My sig is User:3.14159/Sig what it has on the page is - [[User:3.14159|<font color="black">'''User'''</font>]] {{User:3.14159/Sig/randpi}}. User:3.14159/Sig/randpi is the bit which randomly chooses an equation which equals pi. So what you need to do is create all the quips in a subpage User:Rebback/quips with the chose and then transclude User:Rebback/quips to where you want it ti appear, probably User:Redback/sigtalk. - User $\pi$ 23:34, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Okay, I think it's working now. If not, prepare for your talk page to be covered in untold miles of spaghetti code once I sign. Thanks for the help, oh great and mighty tricky math thing. -Redback^G'day 23:49, 3 January 2009 (EST)