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Birthers

So, according to you, the first birthers were Hilary Clinton supporters, eh? If you could find me some proof of this, that would be great, as it would further my suspicion that liberals are responsible for the hooey behind the birther movement as an attempt to embarrass the budding conservative movement.Conservative Punk 05:54, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Try some of the PUMA sites. The birther theory was popular amongst Clinton supports before the DNC after it looked like she lost, it was mostly an attempt to swing the Super Delegates her way. After the DNC it was picked up by fringe Republicans as an attempt to make people nervous about voting for Obama. - π 06:00, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

To do list

Hey, Pi guy, what people really should be watching is RationalWiki:To_do_list/Suggestions, the to do list page itself hardly ever gets edited now that it's all in subpages. ħuman 18:55, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Faith In Chaos

Odd question, I guess, but I was just wondering: ever seen the movie "π" ? Fox 19:32, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

No I haven't actual, is it worth seeing? - π 01:11, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

An odd and compelling movie. Definitely worth a watch. Fox 01:22, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Okay I'll check it, thanks. Nice edit to Jinx's article by the way. - π 01:23, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

It's great, yes. Warnings: If you get migraines, don't watch it. Don't watch it with friends who get migraines. Other than that, it's a real blast. ħuman 06:21, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Search this talk page and its archives

Very cool. Yet another reason to split pibot into several sections. If it works well, will pibot email or intercom or talk page us all to explain the new option? When it's past beta, anyway? ħuman 07:44, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

It will need another extension to limit the search to just the page and subpage. If/when Nx installs that I'll give it a test and then it can be rolled out. It requires no additional bot operations. - π 07:47, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

So it will auto-magically appear on my talk page with no effort on my part? (When it works) That's cool. ħuman 07:54, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Just needs the parameter search=yes. I can get rid of the condition and just add it to the box if you like.- π 07:55, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

This site is pretty much the most tooled up wiki on the planet, isn't it... ^postate 10:44, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, no. Nx thinks the extension I need to make this work will require too much resources. - π 10:46, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Borked

When I vote for "Conservative" for inaesthetic, in adds the vote to his name under the idiocy award.-- Antifly ^{Now with 50% less retirement!} 00:34, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I copy and pasted without changing the poll id. Fixed. - π 00:36, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

No need for apology, just letting you know.-- Antifly ^{Now with 50% less retirement!} 00:38, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

HELLO

Can you rename me?

No, sorry that is out of date. Ask Human. - π 05:53, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I can.The Goonie Punk ^{Can't sleep, clowns will eat me!} 05:54, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Your name is difficult to pronounce.

Mr 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105 82097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706798214808 65132823066470938446095505822317253594081284811174502841 02701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446 12847564823378678316527120190914564856692346034861045432 66482133936072602491412737245870066063155881748815209209 62829254091715364367892590360011330530548820466521384146 95194151160943305727036575959195309218611738193261179310 51185480744623799627495673518857527248912279381830

Mei II 06:54, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

That is certainly true, I usually respond to Mr The ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter in Euclidean space? - π 06:58, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

That improvement is negligible. Please rename yourself to Mei III. Mei II 07:02, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Mei is very easy to pronounce. Mei II 07:02, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Crowe

Never mind this Russell Crowe business, how about this Fiji bullshit. Ace^McWicked 06:03, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

It is going to go bad again, it always does, what is this about the 5th coup in 20 years? Sometimes I wonder why we don't just annex half of the pacific. Most of the countries trade in Australian and New Zealand dollars as their currency is so under valued, they are almost completely reliant on foreign aid and most of the governments couldn't organise piss up in a brewery. - π 06:12, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Samoa was pulling itself together, even after the earthquake etc, and this Fiji shit storm is only playing into it's tourists industries greasy crotch. But yeah, NZ and AUS should really cut Fiji right out. Now is as good a time as any. Not sure what Rudd has done but Key has expelled the Fiji representative already. Ace^McWicked 06:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

We have kicked out some diplomate. I think the ambassador left last time we had a spat and never came back. - π 06:20, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Your new sig....

....is full of win. Just thought you'd want to know. Tetronian ^{you're clueless} 14:10, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

While I am not bothered by the new one, I really did like the old "random math lesson" version. You have no idea how many times my head hurt calculating who the hell that was... ħuman 05:29, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I'll go back to the old one once the "debate" is done. I need some new equations though. - π 05:44, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

The Debater Dilemma

I like that. Do you care if I steal it? ^{— Unsigned, by: MykalOfDefiance / talk / contribs}

Nope, go right ahead. - π 11:24, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Face to face

Do you like my new signature? It's very in. It's very now. -- =w= 21:17, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

It is indeed the latest thing. Do you think I could have one like it? - π 21:20, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Really? How much like it? Do you want a different smile? -- =w= 21:26, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

here is my sig, feel free to redesign it. - π 21:32, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

I SHALL DO SO But I request time to think -- =w= 21:48, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

You know, your sig should link to User:Mei II, not User:Mei -- Nx / talk 21:23, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Nx! -- =w= 21:26, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Support your local Mei

Good evening citizen. You have been selected for showing interest in your local Mei. Were you aware that you can show your support for the troops the Mei by sporting this userbox on your userpage? It's very pretty. This Christmas Mei will go hungry. Please help feed a hungry Mei today. Play, run, feed and feel good about yourself.^tm This message brought to you by Mei. -- =w= 00:42, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

New arj

[1] I'm too busy, but it puts IDer vs. YEC... Sterile Cadillac 13:24, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

PS--It seems the explanation of the creationist interest in fungus, microbes and the like is Microbe Forum 2! Sterile Cadillac 03:15, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, I wonder if I can get is as a deep cover parodist, more to the point would the uni fund my trip? - π 03:18, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Damn it is over already. - π 03:19, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry. You have time to plan for Microbe Forum 3 in 2011! Sterile Cadillac 03:23, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Wow a whopping great 8 people were there, what an extensive research community they have. - π 03:38, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Whats your problem?

Come on man, hate the game, not the player. MarcusCicero 02:05, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

dpl and temporary repairs

I see you patched template:coverstory until bug is fixed. The whole mainpage section below that is similarly pooched... ħuman 00:28, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

• poke Pi tweaked the fix, and did a better job at it. ;) ĴαʊΆʃÇä₰ no hell below him 00:30, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

That colon thing also works if you want to link to an image. - π 00:34, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Now let's hope we get that working again soon. It's a mainstay of the site. ħuman 03:36, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Vandal

I'm going to bed now. It's 2.22AM on Saturday morning here. If you're still on, can you just keep one eye open for the vandal? I don't want him to hurt my feelings with nasty usernames, I don't think I can take the raw pain anymore. SJ ^Debaser 02:23, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Explanations please?

[2]

How can us luzrs lern how to do that? Especially link/explain from template:messagebox plz? In absentia 03:22, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I would appreciate the css lesson we have all been implicitly promised... at your leisure... ħuman 04:36, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

As would I. Lord of the Goons ^{The official spikey-haired skeptical punk} 04:38, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

? ħuman 04:36, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry Human, the fact it is not on my list means it is on my mind (the list is for things I will forget if I don't write them down). It will be about a week or so at the most. - π 04:44, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate it. I look forward to editing it into common English ;) and using it in experiments. Thanks again. ħuman 04:50, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Whatever happened to this fine idea? Are you still working on it? Just curious... AnarchoGoon ^{Swatting Assflys is how I earn my living} 04:42, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Conference. - π 07:38, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Splitting the saloon bar.

As the discussion didn't attract many people, I figured I'd probably go ahead and split the Saloon Bar unilaterally (it gets the mobs attention quite nicely). Would this cause any issues with Pibot and archiving? Adding the Template:Talkpage/Pibot template should work but there could be an issue with searching subpages. The simple way to do it would be to search all the archives of all the "sub forums" (I.e, the saloon bar page itself would have the titles of the search bar, the bartop and the links to sub forums only) but I'm not sure if the pibot parameters would do that automatically. ^postate 13:58, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

If you leave the archive path parameter as it is, it will archive all the subpages to the one archive page. The search box searches all sub pages of the current page. There is a Template:Talkpage/PibotHidden that will archive a page without creating any on screen display. - π 14:06, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Ah, so literally "don't change it". That's good to know. ^postate 14:38, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

No if you need to archive sub-pages they each will need a template, but if you tell them to all archive to the same page it will. - π 23:20, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

I agree that a split would be a good idea, but I think we should have more discussion first. No need to do it unilaterally and send everyone into HCM. Tetronian ^{you're clueless} 23:25, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Armond, we really need to discuss this before unilateral splitting. How about a "sticky" thread on the bar about it? I'm sure the accumulated brainz here on this site can come up with a good way to do it so it doesn't dilute the energy that makes the SB what it is, while allowing us to perhaps slow down the archive rate a bit. ħuman 00:50, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

It is probably best to ask everyone first, however if you are going to do it, the best way would be to put:

{{Template:Talkpage/PibotHidden
|algo = old(time)
|maxarchivesize = 150K
|counter = 44
|algo = old(96h)
|archive = RationalWiki:Saloon bar/Archive%(counter)d
}}

on each subpage. That way they will archive back to the main saloon bar's archive. - π 08:08, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure that will work because of the counter.-- Nx / talk 08:10, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

It updates the counter itself, doesn't it? I haven't looked at the script in a while. - π 08:14, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah but if the counter is different on some pages, won't that cause problems? -- Nx / talk 08:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

It does only add one at a time, but it loops until it has archived the threads, so it should keeping going until it finds the next free archive. - π 08:18, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I am an old man, easily confused and I may have missed something. But what we going to split the Saloon Bar into? And how exactly will it help us?--Bob^{Not Jim} 08:48, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

My suggestion is to keep the Saloon bar for off-mission chat (food, music, rl anecdotes, etc.), have a separate but similar page for on-mission or topical chat (anything about cranks, blogging, also news stories, etc.) & a separate place for discussing possible changes to the site (technical, aesthetic, policy), a bit like WP's village pump.

Also, I think this discussion ^ should be moved back to the Saloon bar. Wëäŝëïöïď^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 15:40, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I've moved everything bar this comment to the saloon bar, Pi can do what he likes with this section now. ^postate 16:03, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Anniversary

I believe (alcohol-damaged memory) that you have implemented a lot of the anniversaries. I just found out that December 5 is Ray Comfort's birthday (1949). Should we wish him many happy returns on his sixtieth? Генгис^{You have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you.} 22:56, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

The instructions for setting them up is at template:holydaze. ħuman 00:08, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

If you don't want to go down the whole banner option, you could use the highly underused Template:Birthday and have his article appear in the saloon bar's birthday list. - π 00:11, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Template:Birthday appears to be non-functional? ħuman 05:29, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Works fine as far as I can see. - π 05:38, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

No instructions, no content (except for " ")? I guess, yeah, it is working just fine, it just doesn't do anything as far as I can see. ħuman 06:31, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

See here. The template has to be blank completely, otherwise its contents would show up in the dpl statement. -- Nx / talk 07:53, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see, thanks. I copied your introduction/instructions to the template talk page. Without them there was no way to figure out how to use it. ħuman 20:41, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm too busy with losing my job to mess around with templates. Just hoping someone else might have picked it up. Генгис^{You have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you.} 00:14, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

merry that thing we do in december, Pi!

All the staff at McWicked Co. wish you a merry christmas.

Cheers, Ace. - π 12:07, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Archive Edit -sorry about that.

My bad. I'm new here, and I wasn't paying attention. No harm intended. Johanan Raatz

- π 11:11, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

sOORRY THET WAS VERY DTUCNK OF ME JUST INGNORE ME

Glad to see your sense of humeur is still intact! ħuman 06:56, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Drink helps. - π 06:59, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

happy

MEMO Happy New Year, Π. This is from Useful Mei. It is an appropriate time for festivities, like alcohol. Today try not to eat too much, or too little.

-- =w= 06:44, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Year in review

If you don't like the page, you're free to move it or destroy it. If someone else wants to tackle it, that person can. --Irrational Atheist (talk) 21:44, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I might just jig it a bit. What you did was good, but the voting was to pick out the top ten moments of the year. I might string what you did into sentences for a prolonged introduction. - π 23:36, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Pi, do what you did last year, and put what IA did under it maybe? I like the top ten countdown/up, and I like it being decided by the "voters", but there's no harm in the blow by blow thing IA wrote either. But you did a lot of work to pull together the top-10 voting for this year's CPtupidity, so run with it. JMHO ħuman 09:10, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I do like IA's chronological, but I was thinking of sandboxing it into groups so all the science was is together, all the Obama is together. - π 09:31, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

They're on to you

Just in case this slipped under your radar Bob Soles (talk) 13:19, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

They are going to be surprised when they find out that it is exactly equal to three. - π 23:28, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I was wondering why I couldn't get any of these calculus problems right. Tetronian ^{you're clueless} 23:38, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

2.7 trillion Pi's...

mmmmm Pi. Aceⁱ⁹ 05:35, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

i wish you would all stop looking at me like that, it makes me feel dirty. - π 08:35, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

MarlinFlake

smells really good ^{— Unsigned, by: MarlinFlake / talk / contribs} 00:00, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Pibot

Any idea why it isn't archiving my talkpage like I set it to? AnarchoGoon ^{Swatting Assflys is how I earn my living} 03:18, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

It looks like gum in the works. My guess is that it has a page order, it gets an error in one, stops and never gets to yours. - π 03:34, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

No idea, I'll have a better look later. - π 04:03, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikifactor

Compulsive checker as well? tmtoulouse 04:21, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

I have been waiting for 20. Now we are in the same category as such luminary wikis as Star Wars Fanon Wiki, Oblivion Mod Wiki, and Wikiprono. - π 04:43, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm not compulsive, haven't been there in weeks... but did we hit 20? ħuman 05:26, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Yep, our 20th most popular article Gish Gallop has ‎20,030 views, mostly thanks to PZ Myers. - π 05:31, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Good for us! As asinine as we can be... We maked us famus! ħuman 05:39, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

The Gish Gallop link was great. It was a topic that needed exploration, but nobody else had the reason to, Wikipedia for example would call it non-notable due to lack of reliable sources. It is that sort of niche thing we thrive on. - π 05:44, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Exactly Pi. Shame we worry so much about sysopping losers more than what's on our "to do list"? ħuman 05:49, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Quote

“”So you got a 404 error? It is probably the most common error on the internet. If we wanted to block you from viewing, you should be seeing a 403 error. I thought you would know this from your high paying computer consulting job. You know the one which requires you to fly first class to the UK every few weeks in the seat next to Lucille Ball, when you are not sitting in on Slayer recording sessions that is.

^postate 11:40, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Did I also tell you how he use to work at the White House and once saved Nancy Reagan's life? He has lead such an interesting life. I am so jealous, that is why I hate on him, please don't tell anyone. - π 11:44, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Shove it

I also refused to apologise. Fuck that. Aceⁱ⁹ 22:49, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

The only reason I really go to aSK is to play with Ken's trollings. Even they are starting to wear thin. Philip just shits me. A train timetable expert with a high school education telling me what I do and don't know about physics. - π 23:01, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

It is fun to play with Ken I'll agree. But Philip is so deluded it makes your head spin. As I said to him - its either one of two things. A) All the worlds scientists are wrong or B) They are all lying. Aceⁱ⁹ 00:31, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

They are not wrong or lying, they are starting from the wrong world-view or paradigm as I like to call it. They assume you can work out nature by looking at nature, instead of reading this one book. - π 00:37, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Dimensional nonsense

You might find this interesting.....re: String Theory

Aceⁱ⁹ 03:50, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Oooh, mathemagical. Thanks for that, it was fun, in a weird kind of way. - π 04:35, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Republicanism

Seeing as there's renewed talk of a referendum, what do you think? Personally I'm a bit of a fence-sitter, I can see the benefits of both sides but I'm ever so slowly drifting toward the republican side of the debate. Not that I have any aspirations of becoming president, but it would be nice for it to be possible to become such. I've usually steered more toward the monarchy side, but with Charles edging closer and closer to the throne...

To have a country that is supposed to be democratic while still not allowing its citizens to become head of state is a bit contradictory. The queen's role is purely ceremonial, and (AFAIK) she has personally only attended parliament twice. Her power to veto bills approved by both houses and the Governor General remains unused, while the Governor General is always hasty in giving passed bills the royal assent. It just seems like a waste of time, and the fact that we still have a Governor General at all seems to imply that we're not trusworthy enough to make our own decisions.

Although to her credit, she seemed to have her pen on the dotted line ready to sign the papers the last time we had a referendum on this topic. I guess the Brits have learnt attempting to tell other countries what they can and can't do is not a good idea. As for the flag, I'm not touching that with a 10-foot flagpole, particularly not with Australia day tomorrow - I don't want to be lynch mobbed by a pack of 95-year old RSL members bitching about how the youngun's today have no respect for their country. -Redback^{not Redneck} 03:56, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I have always been pro-Republican, but more in the Roman collegiate tradition. The Governor General does not appear to do anything, so why not dispense with the office and replace it with nothing? In theory the counter-balance to the Prime Minister exists in the parliament itself. Other than that one occasion we have never needed the GG and to be honest that could have been dealt with if members had been willing to cross the floor and deal a no confidence motion. A few more checks in the system and we could get by without the office at all. - π 04:08, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Well even then, the one time the GG actually did something, it was completely botched. I'm pretty certain that under the constitution, as soon as the motion of no confidence was passed against Fraser, Kerr should have dismissed him (if he didn't resign) and requested Whitlam form a new government. However, from the moment Fraser took the reins, the deal had already been made to trigger a double dissolution. You'd think the queen would be a bit more picky about who she chooses to represent her. -Redback^{not Redneck} 04:17, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of the later no confidence motion. I can't see how you can both pass the government's supply bill and dissolve parliament at the same time. Didn't Kerr spend most of the time pissed any way? Oh well, we all know it was a CIA plot. - π 04:33, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

In NZ there are occasional calls for Republicanism but nothing serious. Our last governer general actually took less of a ceremonial role and began to extend her reach into law. Specifically her caaling for the creation of supreme court as opposed to the Privy Council in London. Which was done. Aceⁱ⁹ 04:48, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

We have had the High Court since federation, although you could appeal to the Privy Council on some state law until as late as 1986 (a practice ending on Federal laws in 1975). - π 05:01, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

We have all but dumped the Privy Council in favour of this monstrosity that I walk past on the way to work. Aceⁱ⁹ 05:14, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I can top that, this is the library/museum where I live. All those Xs make it look like a upscale porn warehouse, or a giant red scissor lift that's toppled over. -Redback^{not Redneck} 05:21, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I love the difference between how the architect imagines these things look and how they look when they are built next to other buildings. - π 05:29, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

(EC*2, argh!) The way it was justified was that in dissolving parliament, he in effect nullified the motion of no confidence. This is the technicality used to explain why Whitlam was not reinstated as PM, because there was never a war with Eastasia a motion of no confidence. You're right though, it should have nullified both the motion of no confidence and the supply bill - but Kerr must have been in a hurry to get home and crack a tinny. And I shall have you know that the honorable pisstank Sir John Kerr was not a CIA pawn, he was a pawn of these guys. -Redback^{not Redneck} 05:03, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I have never heard of the group before. They seems almost secret enough too run a decent conspiracy. Not like these Freemasons holding ceremonies in public, it is disgusting. - π 05:10, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

We Australians do conspiracy properly. I actually read a loooong NWO conspiracy theory about how the NWO is setting up in the middle of the outback somewhere. It was actually pretty well-written for a conspiracy theory, I wish I could find it again. -Redback^{not Redneck} 05:16, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Around were I live their seems to be a lot of talk about military bases in caves and ones only accessible by elevator platforms you can barely see out in the desert. My all time favourite though is that the DSTO is reverse engineering a UFO up at the Edinburgh RAAF base. - π 05:22, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Email

I hath sent one good sir. Aceⁱ⁹ 04:41, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

"This user can only remember pi to 8 decimal places"

here's a mnemenemenemonic for ya:

See, I have a rhyme assisting
My feeble brain its chore resisting.

The best part is, it goes up to 11.

Totnesmartin (talk) 10:23, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. The only problem is I would have to be able to spell the words in order to know how many letters are in them. - π 10:30, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Pi ftw! ħuman 11:33, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

That's easy, just remember the number of letters in each word is equivalent to that position in pi, which will help with tricky double s's etc. Totnesmartin (talk) 11:30, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Martin ft triple win on how to teach pi how to spell! ħuman 11:33, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

(EC)But isn't this to help me remember the numbers in pi? Arrggh, infinite loop forming. Run for it! - π 11:34, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Dive for cover! She a live I slimy betrothus to twisty fires and hells! ħuman 11:49, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

“”There once was a fellow from Greece, Who forgot pi's last decimal piece. So he used electronics To collect pi mnemonics... Now he's hooked, and there is no release.

—[3]

Or, of course, there's Wikipedia's excellent entry Jack Hughes (talk) 13:01, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Query

Do we have a template which displays the name of the article it is applied to - the same way that {{USERNAME}} gives you Anonymous user? If there isn't I have no idea how to write one. SJ ^Debaser 11:37, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

mediawikiwiki:Help:Magic_words#Page_names -- Nx / talk 11:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Cheers, Nx. SJ ^Debaser 11:41, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

You really made the Precious Metals Nanowater page better. I appreciate it. Researcher (talk) 03:39, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

No worries. I can never think of new articles myself, it is nice to see someone like you coming up with ideas and starting the ball rolling. - π 03:43, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm a lot better at that than I am at adding content or writing them properly. Researcher (talk) 03:48, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

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I made your Returning Officer suggestion a subheading, because I think it's part of the ongoing Tie discussion, and it felt tidier. I hope you don't mind. -- =w= 02:37, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

No the is very useful. - π 02:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Ahhh! Your script is better than mine!

I just spent ages writing a script to replace all messages/recent changes from TK with a generic "Troll begone" message, only to see you've already made a much neater one! I was visiting your monobook.js because the script I wrote was for GreaseMonkey and I was checking out your monobook.js trying to figure out how to put it on the site, but it works well enough in GM.

I was actually thinking of asking for a little assistance about half an hour ago. I was going to implement the ability to mouse over the "Troll begone" message to see what he'd written, but I can't see myself ever wanting to read one of his increasing desperate messages anyway.

Mine's rather clunky and slow, it digs through the whole DOM tree so it causes a wee bit of lag when the page first loads. I'd ask if I could nick your script to put in my monobook.js, but dammit, I spent ages on mine so I'm keeping it! -Redback^{not Redneck} 09:15, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I haven't finished mine yet, think of it as version 0.1 beta. It could still do with some work, but when it is done I am going to offer it to people. - π 09:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I see it's still in development, but trust me you don't even want to see what mine looks like. It's about the size of a novel and still missing a few features. I nearly threw a fit because I couldn't figure out why it wouldn't accept "firstChild", but then about fifteen-twenty minutes later I realized I had left one letter out. I'm not going to tell you which letter, suffices to say I'm a bit scared I'm going to be arrested now. -Redback^{not Redneck} 09:23, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

The menu is a mess. There is the <ul> node, <li> node, and if you want to grab stuff inside the parentheses <span class="mw-usertoollinks">. When I have that sorted, I am also looking to do one for people that use the enhanced menu. - π 09:28, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

"r". Did I win the prize? ħuman 04:12, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

h

What did you need me for? ħuman 00:54, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I noticed an error I made whilst typing. - π 00:54, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Is it fixed now? ħuman 01:14, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but if you want to read over the teabagging (protest) article for any more I would be grateful. - π 01:23, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh good that's a relief. Yes, I'll do that. Thanks! ħuman 01:26, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Iz haz not learneded fonics atz skool, so Iz cant reed becoz of liberals!!!! - π 03:26, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

New MW feature noticed

Remember how using repeated headers used to be messy because after editing one, you'd get sent back to the first example of the header? I think they might have fixed it, need to test more... ħuman 22:06, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

No, I was wrong :( must have just used the ToC. Nevermind, there's nothing happening up here, go back to finishing the damn question. ħuman 22:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

a

Thank you! Your name is making me hungry for pie. *_____* -- =w= 21:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

You have a favourite kind of pi? - π 21:56, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Yum yum blueberry pi. ^______^ -- =w= 21:58, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

t

I like interrogative pronouns.--^talk 21:55, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

h

I like Ouija boards. -- =w= 21:56, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

"Whath" is not a word!--^talk 21:59, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

You obviously have to add a new section with a one letter title until you create a sentence in the menu. - π 22:00, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

EC - There's a space! It's 'What-h...' It's FAMOUS. And your comment made me laugh too much. -- =w= 22:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Testing... ħuman 22:06, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

a

Fine then!--^talk 22:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

v

I will!--^talk 22:02, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

e

It's your fault Recent Changes is going to be filled with this now.--^talk 22:02, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

y

I make no apologies.--^talk 22:03, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

o

Not my fault.--^talk 22:03, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

You only are allowed to add one at a time, then it is some one else's turn. - π 22:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

We are too late to stop Tom Moore. Flee for your lives. -- =w= 22:05, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?!--^talk 22:06, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

u

Most of a sentence now.--^talk 22:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

b

Lalala I can't hear you. ħuman 22:08, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

e

Is for elephant. Aboriginal Noise ^{What the ...} 22:10, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

But make sure elephant drinks enough water. Totnesmartin (talk) 22:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

d

I look forward to seeing how this will make sense. -- =w= 22:11, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Me is disruptive, well done. - π 22:12, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I was going to write 'what hath god wrought' because it is TRADITIONAL. But no! We had to write silly things. -- =w= 22:13, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

d

Educated time Hoover! 22:18, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

e

Educated time Hoover! 22:19, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

d

It makes sense! Educated time Hoover! 22:19, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

s

Trust me. -- =w= 22:24, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

i

-- =w= 22:24, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

r

-- =w= 22:24, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

e

-- =w= 22:25, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

?

Win win win. -- =w= 22:25, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello Π!

Been a long time since I checked in with you. How are things, you crazy, irrational number? The Spikey Punk ^{I'm punking my punk!} 07:29, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Not bad. Out of money so I am surviving on tutoring pay. Still trying to finish my thesis, but fortunately I have a conference in Buenos Aires to look forward too. How are things going for you, stuff settled down yet? - π 07:33, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Things are still going full speed into the ground right now, unfortunately and, I presume, it will stay that way at least until that fucker's trial is over. But, I'll survive as I always have and emerge better for it. As of late, I've found myself immersed in either work or my band as an escape, if I need one. And, of course, there's always RationalWiki. Lord Goonie ^{Hooray! I'm helping!} 07:37, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Shit is probably going to be fucked up for a while. Have you had the chance to get counselling? When I was going through a rough patch I found it good to talk to someone not involved. How is the bad going? - π 07:44, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

I know, and I will probably get counseling when all is said and done. Right now, I've been concentrating more on dousing any flames arising within my family and, especially, being there for my sister. Elsewise, the band is going well. We are going to start recording some shit in a month or two so we put that out, and have decided that, once we find an appropriate way to go about it, we will try to broadcast our practices live via internet feed. AnarchoGoon ^{Swatting Assflys is how I earn my living} 07:49, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

The band sounds like it is moving along. Drop me a message when you get it going, I would like to see it. If you need a laugh check this out. Hold in there man. - π 07:55, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Please check my edit

Hope I didn't screw up anything. It automatically sets the archivepath used by the dpl to the path used by Pibot. [4] -- Nx / talk 14:00, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Seems about right. My approach is usually to do something, then wait and see when/if anything goes wrong - then fix it. The measure twice, cut once approach is only appropriate when cutting cost more than twice as mush as measuring. - π 05:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Why?

Why all the uploads of different colored "x"es? It is making me worried. Lord Goonie ^{Hooray! I'm helping!} 06:39, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

IPatrol did it about a year ago and made a botched job of it, so I am reuploading them. Beyond that I can't explain it either. - π 06:40, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Whew, that's good. I thought you were starting to hoard them in case the "O"s invade. The Spikey Punk ^{I'm punking my punk!} 06:42, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Not a bad idea though. - π 06:45, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

True, it's good to be prepared. Just in case..... Punky ^{Your mental puke relief} 06:47, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Just make sure you go first, that way the worst you can do is draw. - π 06:49, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Good to know you have a strategy for the "X"s if the "O"s invade. The last guy didn't have a strategy, lost against the "O"s, and then went completely insane. Gooniepunk2010 ^{Oi! Oi! Oi!} 06:54, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

The only problem is staying up all night to guard against them will drive you insane. - π 07:00, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

You said it. Legend has it that that's how our tech support guy lost his mind and why he now only babbles in computer languages instead of spoken languages. The Goonie 1 ^{What's this button do? Uh oh....} 23:27, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

It does how ever make you far more proficient in the 0 bit of the 1s & 0s. - π 23:29, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Makes sense. One would need to be familiar with all forms of "O"s, even the harmless "0"s, if they were to prepare themselves for the "O" invasion. Lord Goonie ^{Hooray! I'm helping!} 23:35, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Why revert my removal of Cosmic Background Radiation ?

Human had expressed some disatisfaction with it being Evidence so I moved it to my sandbox for revision ? It needs to go in the index if it stays :) Hamster (talk) 23:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

It seemed like the wrong way to improve an article, taking bits of it away to your sandbox so you can write it than putting it back, having missing article matter in the mean time. I have reverted it, what ever float you boat. - π 23:34, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

He only just added it Hamsterself. We're discussing it. ħuman 03:07, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

I see you fixed it, thanks. ħuman 03:09, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

oh hai der

hello me. ▐▀▌ (talk)

Hello. Who is this? - π 06:02, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

The fat American version of you. ▐▀▌ (talk)

Hehe, Pie! ħuman 02:27, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

w

I remember when you used to be called User:3.14159. NOSTALGIA. -- Mei (talk) 01:43, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

That was a while go, you were here back then? - π 01:57, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

It wasn't that long ago was it? Like, late 2008? -- Mei (talk) 02:07, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

And no, late 2008 is not a long time ago. I AM ADRIFT IN TIME AND SPACE. -- Mei (talk) 02:07, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

time(Π)>time(3.14159) - π 02:11, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

ADRIFT I SAY. <- monologue -- Mei (talk) 02:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure you were called 3.x for a while. I will uncover the truth. The truth, pi. -- Mei (talk) 02:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I was 3.14159 from the 4th of March 2008 until the 4th of January 2009, I have been Π ever since. - π 02:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Stop being in the past. You should be here. -- Mei (talk) 02:25, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I think you are still adrift in time, Mei. - π 02:27, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

That could be it. Maybe I need to be in the real world more often. But I feel odd talking to you when you're still in January 2009. I miss 3.14159 -- Mei (talk) 02:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

This better? 3.14159 (talk) 02:41, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

You have been patrolled by Superfast Mei. -- Mei (talk) 02:42, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I still miss all the other things from time. -- Mei (talk) 02:43, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

huh?

well i do it to be sure that befor reverting me people will at least tell me why would they do it.

im trying to contribute so i may want to know why befor some revert me.Waronstupidity (talk) 06:32, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Generally people revert edits that make the article worse. Also as a general rule they keep discussions to one talkpage. - π 06:38, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Mission

ok man, i think i can do that. thank you <3 ^{— Unsigned, by: SRQ girl / talk / contribs}

Okay, feel free to read around to start with. The Saloon bar and What is going on at CP? are were post of the peeps hang out. - π 21:40, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

w

I'm not an expert on hiding revisions, but I think it might be less messy if we deleted the page, restored it with the revisions up to the 'libel' comment, and then added the rest of the comments as raw text. Hiding each of the revisions the comment appears on would lose most of the history in the same way, and might not actually work. -- Mei (talk) 23:15, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Make me what I need to be to do the hide/show thing. - π 23:17, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

You are now a sysop. I think I got it, though. It took me a bit longer than I thought because I couldn't find the 'restore revisions' page (in order to copy the text) once I'd restored it. -- Mei (talk) 23:21, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I made you a bureaucrat so you can restore yourself to Irrational Number level when/if you want to. -- Mei (talk) 23:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Mei, you are useful. - π 23:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

That Pi guy is more useful. -- Mei (talk) 23:32, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I have set it so only the crats can see it, can you desysop me now? - π 23:34, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

The one just before the blanked user name doesn't need to be hidden. - π 23:35, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Key to the left of the z key

\just thought I should point out that not all keyboard layouts have a shift key to the left of the z. \mine has "\" and in France they have "a" for example. \hope this helps next time you get annoyed at people's grammar. Bondurant (talk) 09:56, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

athanks, zsshole. - π 10:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

MOS

Thanks for the help making all the little adjustments to incorporate it! ħuman 01:19, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

No worries. - π 01:23, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

CrookedJim and associated socks

Actually, if you give CrookedJim and/or socks enough time out of the vandal bin, and they will start to trash articles. Trust me, since I flushed him out, it was better I put him away before he did harm. Just like we'd do with Fall down and the like. The Goonie 1 ^{What's this button do? Uh oh....} 03:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I am with my spikey haired lover on this. Aceⁱ⁹ 03:36, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Clearly this authoritarian fascism is turning this site into a juvenile 4chan. I'm leaving and never coming back. --The Emperor _{Kneel before Zod!} 03:38, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Me too. When the Spiky one started sleeping with the Unitary one they both broke my hearts. ħuman 03:58, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I already left. I sold my RW account for $300 on ebay. --^{Ask me about your mother} 13:00, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Templates

Would it be permissible to bring over cite templates from Wikipedia?

Barring that, would it be permissible to re-engineer templates from WP?

Thanks!

--UnicornTapestry (talk) 12:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

We are both cc-by-sa 3.0, so long as you link back to WP it is normally alright. We have never had much use for cite templates though, they tend to end up getting deleted. - π 12:55, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't waste your time. -- Nx / talk 12:56, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

What Nx said.   ^Contribs_Talk 12:59, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! --UnicornTapestry (talk) 13:09, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't get discouraged by the old folks. The idea was good, we are just not that big on formal citation, we aren't publishing journals here after all. - π 13:13, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Just look @ the fuss re image licences; we don't like that sort of thing. There are one or two templates nicked off wp that are very good but are never used - this site's a hobby site, not really a reference site.   ^Contribs_Talk 13:20, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Go here & "find" wp. There's about 5.   ^Contribs_Talk 13:23, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually it would be nicer to have all the info WP's cite web template provides (for example) instead of just [1] [2] etc., but noone would use the template because they wouldn't care. And I suspect some would complain that you are ruining their wiki. -- Nx / talk 13:38, 6 March 2010 (UTC)