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Whoops...

I sort of realised that once I finished the vandal-binning and then read recent changes. Sorry! --PsyGremlin_Whut? 12:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I kind of sucked at regex, the account should never have been created. - π 12:53, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Intercom

WTF, that green is too dark, why can't it just be "new messages" orange? Also, weird, the "Editing User talk:Π (new section)" is in a serif font... you guys having fun? ħuman 04:10, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

The you have new messages is green? Actually I don't like the serifs much, I might make it straight times. - π

That is just the testing of the intercom groups. I think the idea was to have different colours for different groups. Any requests? - π 04:14, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, use one color and keep it light. If you want to try something like that, at least bring it up at the Saloon? I don't think we see enough messages to care what group they are from (they say it in text anyway, right?) ħuman 04:16, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Do a forced refresh now. - π 04:17, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

yeah, way to dark. Ace McWickedⁱ⁹ 04:20, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Even the blue? - π 04:20, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes. You gotta try to stay lighter than a0a0a0 or so in order for black text to be easy to read. Why not use the pastel colors on the main page, for a weird kind of internal site consistency? ħuman 04:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

screw it all together. We'll make smoke signals and hire sky writers. Ace McWickedⁱ⁹ 04:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

And in winter, we can write our messages in the snow... ħuman 04:45, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't snow where I live. - π 05:15, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Then you'll have to use matchsticks... INFORMATION. WE WANT INFORMATION! ħuman 05:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Nice work

You know what I mean. "What is a RationalWiki article?" Etc. Very well done. ħuman 05:01, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. - π 05:04, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Velcome. It's always nice to see people improving our backdrop? IE, the shit behind the fan. ħuman 05:09, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Ultimate Proof of Creation

Thank you for 'splodin my as. I hate these assholes and their corrupt, confused writing, and their fucking lame god, and their wrecking of science, and worse yet warping of young minds how can we stop them? ħuman 07:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

vandal

I dont why I keep getting hit with that vandal. Very weird. Ace McWicked^Necron99 02:36, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Could be TK. Judging from the section header? ^{This message brought to you by: respond}_and honey 02:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Thats what I wondered. When I archive the page I'll keep that header. It's TK bait. Ace McWicked^Necron99 02:40, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

(EC 2x)I think somebody likes you. - π 02:41, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Your making me blush. Ace McWicked^Necron99 02:41, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Aw, I never could. "Pi" must be special... ħuman 06:01, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

The hunt

I dont know if your a Melbournite or a Sydneyite (is there anything else aside from Perth and desert?) but I'll be in Melbourne in a few weeks if you wanna help me and Rad McCool track down PJR. Ace McWicked^Necron99 01:44, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Not a Melbournite, but not that far from that den of inequity either. I am quit busy at the moment, but a hunt could be fun. - π 01:47, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I am sure if we asked PJR nicely he'd be cool with a meet and a chat. That is until Rad McCool vomits on his shoes. Ace McWicked^Necron99 01:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't sound like a hunt as such. - π 02:03, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Just wait my friend. When he tries to run, we'll give him a 30 sec headstart. Then the hunt is on. But seriously, a mini-meet of RW users could be laugh. Ace McWicked^Necron99 02:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay if you email me details, I'll see; I do live a few hundred kilometres and the lecturing term is back on, but a weekend in Melbourne would be fun. - π 02:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah yup will do Ace McWicked^Necron99 02:16, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I dont think PJR will wanna see me anymore after I called his bum-buddy Sarfati a "moron". A shame really. Ace McWicked^{Model 500} 03:38, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I think it ironic that he defends Sarfati's intelligence on the basis that he has a PhD, given the number of PhD's that would disagree with him. - π 03:41, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Funnily enough Sarfati went to the same High School as me. Obviously not at the same time though. Ace McWicked^{Model 500} 03:43, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

What is up with all these creationist scientist posers coming from this part of the world? Everyone seems to think it is a US philosophy, but when it comes to making up shit in an attempt to make it appear scientific, we corner the market. - π 03:47, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Ken Ham - Aus, Ray Comfort and Sarfati - NZ. Quite right. Ace McWicked^{Model 500} 03:49, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

And Andrew Snelling. - π 03:51, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I wonder what this says about our respective education systems? Ace McWicked^{Model 500} 03:53, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Fuck You, You Fuckin' Fuck.

Your fuckin' bot fuckin' put the fuckin' banhammer on me--and every other fuckin' editor--when I was fuckin' busy' doing a whole fuckin' series' of fuckin' edits and cost me valuable fuckin' minutes of fuckin' time. So I got your fuckin' "sense of huomour (sic--while you're at it, learn to fuckin' spell) RIGHT HERE!. (seriously though, I de-sysopped the bot because I didn't see you online and since the blocks didn't show up in the Recent Changes, I thought something was wonky. No biggy, really. Figured you'd re-boot the bot if everything was cool.)TheoryOfPractice (talk)

Sorry. I might make a whitelist to exclude people from being blocked by the bot is if they look busy. - π 02:46, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Or how about just not doing it any more? It's not funny the second time, and can really inconvenience people. Usually "fun" blocks are between people who are playing, you just blocked every sysop regardless of what they might be doing. PS, you can't tell if you're inconveniencing someone by looking at their recent activity. They might be in the middle of a big (or several big) edit with no apparent activity up to then. Why not create PiRogueSysopBot to play these games, you really shouldn't degrade Pibot's rep as a very useful tool. ħuman 03:02, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Your additions to common.css

Unfortunately I had to remove them, as the new rules don't allow that kind of thing. Nx (talk) 23:05, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry; you can re-add your modifications; Jeeves doesn't care about that anymore. Now you need to change your sig, since he's decided that you need to have a sig that makes it clear who you are. Anyway, it's quarter past twelve, so I'm going to bed now. Evil time Hoover! 23:17, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I am glad decision begin, end and change while I am asleep. - π 00:50, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Obviously, I was being sarcastic ("new rules"?), but it seems people have now decided that adding any kind of personal stuff into common.css is verboten. Nx (talk) 07:26, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

BoN block

yeah, the block was a bit late.

the guy'll be back though. SJ ^Debaser 13:08, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

If you block him for 6 hours, he will be back in 6 hours. Blocking is almost completely pointless. Vandal bin the IP if you like though. - π 13:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

PS It wasn't funny, it was extremely childish. - π 13:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't think I'm the man for that job - probably why I'd be a shit bureaucrat. It was childish, but you're forgetting I'm a childish guy.

Ah, sorry, I farted. This page has been gas attacked by SuperJosh. Sorry.

See? SJ ^Debaser 13:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the gift. I think? You wouldn't make a shit bureaucrat, I just don't think you have done enough to be demoted yet. - π 22:23, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I understand. I've only been here four months and it's taken other people over a year to become crats. SJ ^Debaser 10:00, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

The time it takes is relative depending on the person. Don't sweat it. There is no magic hierarchy we are a mob. It took me several months to become a sysop back in the day. - π 10:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Yay, mob! Only took me four days to become a sysop - crazy. Thanks for making me a vandal... what exactly does that entail? SJ ^Debaser 12:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Nothing really. It is a broken user group left over from the old vandal bin. You just show up in the list with all the other vandals. - π 12:22, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I like, I like... SJ ^Debaser 12:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

For sysopery. Am I right in believing you have a guide or someone or something for said job? Wiggles (talk) 12:43, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

On your talk page now. - π 12:46, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Whatever happened to...

Sir Reginald Albert Humfildink-Hollingsworth the Third? Nx (talk) 13:15, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I am not really to sure why I stopped that, it was amusing in its own way. - π 23:07, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I was only kidding

I was only kidding on my talkpage when I sad you don't like anybody. You'll find really quickly that I poke fun at everyone, including myself. I dish it out alot, but I can also not afraid to take it when necessary. Cheers!The Goonie 1 (talk) 22:39, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't offended, don't worry. - π 23:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

GENTLEMEN RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

PREPARE TO BE ASSIMILATED

LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!LOL! L

^{— Unsigned, by: Theemperor / talk / contribs} 03:50, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Argh! A drive by lulz attack! The lulz! Pi!? ARE YOU ALRIGHT?! SJ ^Debaser 18:34, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Fortunately EVAC got me out in time, but they are saying I may never walk again. - π 21:55, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Global blocking script

I saw your "Gift to TK" as the global blocking script. Perhaps it will be even funnier if you remind him to unblock himself afterwards. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 12:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

TK all alone on his wiki. I think he would enjoy that. - π 12:41, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Barring Andy calling the maintanence crew to unblock himself, but we aren't sure whether Andy have such intelligence to do so. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 12:52, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Bot division of labor?

(This has nothing to do with last night's mayhem...)

I have been thinking for a while that you might want to "split up" pibot into several separate baramins. EG, take the talk page archiver and call it pitalkpagebot, piarchivebot, or some such, the part that handles the wigo pages piwigobot, etc. Then keep using the "main" pibot as a sandbox, test bed for new bot functions, etc.? ħuman 00:48, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Interesting suggestion. I'll have to see what is doable now that the main archiving script is on the server so that it runs the same time every day. - π 04:44, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Arthur birther

That's funny, that there is, I don't care who you are, that there is funny. ħuman 08:16, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I can't believe people are talking about Obama, when we have still have not established the eligibility of Arthur. - π 09:22, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Cool it!

Calling Nutty Roux a fuckwit is out of line. It was probably just an honest mistake. SJ ^Debaser 12:19, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Your right, I'm sorry. You should fart in my user space as a punishment. - π 12:21, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, you're right $\pi$, I can never stay mad at you!

Ah, sorry, I farted. This page has been gas attacked by SuperJosh. Sorry.

Ahh... ya smell that? SJ ^Debaser 12:25, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I wonder how many of those I can get on one page at a time? - π 12:26, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

A lot? Generally I don't like to use it more than once on one user, as I feel it's a weak joke anyway without wearing it down on the same person over and over and over and over and over... SJ ^Debaser 12:38, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

That is what I was thinking. I have to earn having your farts in my user space and threads are archived after 28 days; so the question is what is my best strategy of behaviour to get you to fart in my user space the maximum number of times in a 28 day period? - π 12:41, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

You want lots of farts now? I originally pledged to avoid your userspace after you got pissed off with me that one time! No one ever visits my userspace enough for me to use your Pibot. I ususally fart as a gesture of friendship to another user, or if the topic discussed is worthy of lulz. SJ ^Debaser 12:47, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Well if you are going to make it hard for me to earn them, of course I want them. Its called scarcity. Andy is giving a course on economics, you can learn about it there. Have you considered enrolling? I have a nice clean IP address and I was thinking of signing up. - π 12:51, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I've been blocked loads of times by TK and whoever and the moment they expire and I get an account he re-blocks me. I will try however. SJ ^Debaser 12:55, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Usually if you are persistent enough you get range blocked. You either are lucky or have a big range and are hard to hit. - π 12:58, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I've only actually properly vandalised Conservapedia once a couple of weeks ago. All time before that I was just trying to argue with them on talk pages. However, I'm getting a Macbook soon so I should have a new IP on that, then I can learn Andy's trustworthy economics. SJ ^Debaser 13:11, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Your IP is issued by your net provider, not your computer. You will get a different something else number, can't remember its name off hand, it is based on your OS and web brower. If you can get a new IP, say library, internet cafe (see if you can find a coffee shop with a free wireless hotspot) you can run two different accounts at the same time. Not only will the IPs be different so will the other thing number. - π 13:15, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I think you're referring to the MAC address which depends on the network card. It actually stands for Media Access Control and is nothing to do with Apple.  Lily ^{Inspirate me.} 13:20, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

MACs only show up on LANs, you can't see them on the internet. I'll try to remember, Nx would know. - π 13:22, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Aks TK, he keeps track of all that shit. ħuman 05:55, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

It is probably column 4 of his infamous spreadsheet. - π 05:58, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh aye. Well, I'm swanning off to university next month so TK can get ready for that... SJ ^Debaser 13:24, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

He blocked mine. It is your browser and version tokens. - π 13:25, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Page break and assistance request

I request assistance kind sir. I want my signature talk page link to read a different wacky quote on each different signing that some other users such as yourself have. I've tried and failed spectacularly. The link to my Sig talk is here. A nudge in the right direction will perhaps warrant a third fart :D SJ ^Debaser 13:36, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Change your preference setting from {{User:SuperJosh/Sig}} to {{User:SuperJosh/Sig|}} - π 13:40, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

It worked! Thank you. As promised. SJ ^Debaser 14:04, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah, sorry, I farted. This page has been gas attacked by SuperJosh. Sorry.

I hope we've added that to our help page on being uberkewl, re:sigs. ħuman 05:59, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

On the 7 steps at the top, but not further down when we explain random sigs. - π 06:02, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Sysoping

On their first day with almost no edits? Hmmmm Ace McWicked^{Model 500} 03:30, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey I thought I would help with his security hole problems. - π 04:20, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I find that action and explanation very weak, especially from the guy who wants to stop anonymous toreditors from contributing ever again. ħuman 04:26, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey it is the sysops that are the security holes. The hole is in Special:block, every sysop we have is a hole in our security at the moment. He asked for me to create one, so I did. - π 04:39, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

There seems to be a misunderstanding here. The error in Special:Block is that the username is unescaped. I.e. if the username is a script tag, the javascript inside it will be executed. This will only affect your computer, not the server. But MediaWiki does not allow < and > in usernames, for this very reason, so the only way to exploit this is to construct a link (example give on User talk:Tmtoulouse#XSS vulnerability in MW1.14). It's unlikely that a sysop would click such a link. I'd say we have more to worry about a sysop inserting malicious stuff into Common.js (plus the hole is patched). -- Nx / talk 07:03, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I was playing with our security obsessed new visitor. I was amazed that the guy was worried about Tor stealing passwords, given that they are sent in clear text you have a lot more to worried about in that department. - π 09:08, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

They are sent in clear text so people could get them even without using Tor? I don't get it. You must tell me. I have a wiki or two and I am only concerned for the children that may hurt themselves trying to edit it, if I do not give them the proper instructions. Lumenos (talk) 08:06, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Precedent. - π 04:41, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

You're on a really weird trip today, Pi. ħuman 04:54, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Not as much as the guy I sysopped earlier, can you tell me what this is about? - π 05:43, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it looks like a one-person wiki? Not that it is much clearer than Stupid word evilest!
, but still, it does lack the +4 fonts at least. ħuman 06:17, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

He seems to name everything after himself and seems worried that we are all trying to eat his browser or something. His sysop account here makes him vulnerable. - π 06:20, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Whatever. Your use of the word "vulnerable" freaks me the fuck out. You are being really creepy today. Please promote him before I promote you. ħuman 06:54, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I was just playing with him. - π 08:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Whoops, I just got Idesed... ħuman 04:50, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Dude, don't listen to him. I am totally sysop. I got a ridicule button... wait no it's "relocate". Vaporize! Hell yeah! As to these allegations that I name things after myself I reply here. Lumenos (talk) 05:17, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry Human was just pissed off at me at the time, everyone gets to be a sysop if they don't vandalise the site. I have already read that, thanks. You don't know javascript do you? I must warn you, malicious scripts can steal your password if you are not careful. - π 05:20, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Ha ha! Everyone gets to be. Good one. I checked the user lists and I am of the chosen 300 or so, obviously due to my experience managing Lumeniki. Anyway, yes I don't know anything. How do I be careful? And also with these links I'm not supposed to click or I let evil in the whole wiki [my computer. (update to Nx's explanation)]. How will I identify these things? Lumenos (talk) 06:18, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

I believe I to be at least one of the one(s) everyone is conspiring here about. Human, addressing your concerns that I am "the guy who wants to stop anonymous toreditors from contributing ever again". I'm not sure why you believe that. I don't know much about any of this. I wanted to vote for allowing TOR as the most cautious, experimental way possible (so that anyone could agree that that would be better than not allowing TOR) but I due to a condition I have (the medical description is "dorkiness") I didn't realize that it was already in use here, so I probably should have just shut up but someone made it sound like polls were closing and I reacted quickly. Lumenos (talk) 04:27, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Update: I'm being framed! Pi posted the above, not me! Well reverting my mistake I deleted, became their lie. So I had to do some slash outs up there. If you want me retardations in your talk page, so be it. Lumenos (talk) 07:55, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if I deserve to be sysop or not. I was going to work on my latest (ridiculous) multiconditional vote for TOR but now I guess I'll be answering concerns about this. Lumenos (talk) 04:27, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

WIGOs

Let me handle the vote template. I'd like to keep the fake votes. -- Nx / talk 00:08, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I just would like to see them back in there previous glory. - π 00:10, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't mind if you double check my edits though. It's 2 am here. :) -- Nx / talk 00:27, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Instead of archiving it can we have all the pre-crash stuff back on the pages so they get archived naturally? - π 00:35, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

No problem, move it back and delete the archives. -- Nx / talk 00:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Pibot reactivated

I've reactivated Pibot. He's supposed to run at around 6:25 + random time the ubuntu update script waits to not overload ubuntu's servers with everyone's machines trying to update at the exact same time (that could be anywhere from a few minutes to half an hour). That should be 2 hours from now. -- Nx / talk 08:25, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Won't it archive most of the site? - π 08:26, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I checked everything that links to talkpage/pibot: Nutty Roux's and Gooniepunk's talk page will be archived, although it will leave a few threads depending on the settings. I've replied to Technical support where I don't want it to archive a few sections, the rest can go. You might want to continue the Pictures section on Talk:Main Page to prevent archiving. -- Nx / talk 08:33, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

It will leave 5 threads on the page to make it look semi-busy. - π 08:35, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Looks like it worked. That is the biggest archive I have ever seen it do. - π 10:55, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Excellent Schukky Write Up

I loved your descriptions.... Felt like I was right there watching it happen :) Congratulations my non terminating brother. SirChuckB^{That is all} 08:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

We have seen some great Schukkys from Jinx. What will we do if he actually does ever go through with his threat to stop posting here? - π 08:40, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

We'll follow him to another turf... I have personally seen him troll the Amazon.com comments, Ray Comfort's blog and many many others.... IT should be easy to track down out friend the Jinx SirChuckB^{That is all} 08:43, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Amazon.com comments? He must be hard up to vent his insecurities. - π 08:44, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

User:Pi

That's not you, right? All your sigs from tefl point there though. -- Nx / talk 00:06, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Leave it. It can become one of those peculiar things from the crash. - π 00:12, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Phoenixwiki: thanks!

Thanks for getting things up quickly, to you and your bots. Sterile mitten 00:46, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Don't look at me, I didn't do anything. - π 01:42, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Long time, no see

So, what were you up to during The Great Exodus?Lord of the Goons (talk) 03:53, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I spent most of my time at Ames' and Jinx's respective blogs, the rest of the time I spent getting my real life work done. - π 03:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I roamed around the late WIkiSynergy, and I also went outside and got a life and a girlriend.Lord of the Goons (talk) 03:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I use to remember what a life was once, haven't seen one in a while. What are the tech specs on one of those these days? - π 03:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

They are a little more interesting than life on here, although it involves going out into the rain at times and, also, the potential sunburn if you lay out in the sun.Lord of the Goons (talk) 04:00, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I see if I get on for Christmas. - π 04:02, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

You did!

But the old one seemed to be working so well...tmtoulouse 23:27, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

- π 23:36, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

My philosophy with spending donated money has been rather reactive than proactive. I am worried I take what money I have stock piled and get something I think we need and then something else will break and I will have spent all the reserves. I am rethinking that policy a little bit after the crash but still it maybe a necessary evil till I get a tenure track position somewhere. tmtoulouse 23:43, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Your early archiving trick

C'mon, that's almost Andy-like. TheoryOfPractice 23:15, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

It is not a conversation it is just him trolling. So long as it is there someone will reply, just giving him what he want. Trolls thrive off people paying attention to them. - π 23:17, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

You don't like it, then don't read it. No need to hide it away. TheoryOfPractice 23:19, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

What TOP said. ListenerX^TalkerX 23:20, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Well feed the troll to your hearts content then. - π 23:21, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

What the FUCK? Not only did you roll me back so it wouldn't appear in the recent changes log, but you didn't put the bit you deleted back into the archive? TheoryOfPractice 23:23, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

It is all back fine, it is not my fault you can't read the fucking logs properly. - π 23:31, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

This conversation is about to go badly downhill, inevitably ending in comparisons to Hitler, and hurt feelings all around. Stop now. Step away from the keyboard. Go pet a jerboa, or milk a goat.

Lord Goonie ^{Hooray! I'm helping!} 23:33, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

What Goonie said. Ace McWicked^{Model 500} 23:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I like how there are no difflinks here so other people can stick their noses in in an informed fashion. So I'll just rant. If Pi wants to archive stuff on his talkpage - especially irrelevant stuff - that's his business. As long as he either stuffs it an archive (that's the RW way, after all), or pastes it into a "wandalism to this page" subpage (and doesn't oversight the edits in the first place). No one bitched (much) at Toast for saying MC or CUR or whoever it was comments' would be instantly archived. Just don't make edits go bye-bye, 'kay, PiGuy? ħuman 03:23, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

It is all good nothing has vanished down the memory-hole. It is amazing a year ago we had to archive things by hand and now if you archive things before the bot does people get upset. - π 04:52, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, no, people are getting upset over "rapid" archiving, not manual archiving. But still, if some twat loads your talk page up with tripe, who's to say you can't park it somewhere harmless. I assume that was the case, since I trust you. ħuman 05:00, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

WTF?

What was with the "Sticky" vandalism you did and then undid on my talkpage earlier when I was away? I'm just curious....Gooniepunk2010 ^{Oi! Oi! Oi!} 05:39, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Your talkpage has not been archiving because you set it up wrong, so you looked like a good person to test Pibot's latest feature: it will no longer archive any talkpage with (Sticky) or (sticky) or (sTIcky) in the title. - π 09:23, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Did you or can you help me fix the pibot archive setup on my talkpage, then, so that I get it right?The Spikey Punk ^{I'm punking my punk!} 09:26, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

It is fixed now. You just need to wait until you have two threads more than 15 days old. - π 09:27, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Sweet. Thanks, friend. Cheers, I'm going to bed (it's 4:30 am here)09:29, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Good mourning. - π 09:30, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Did you mean "it will no longer archive any talkpage section with (Sticky) or (sticky) or (sTIcky) in the title."? And thanks, nice work. We should add this to all our cover story discussions in case we ever do more automated archiving. Oh, PS, are the parens required? I take it from your examples that it is simply not case-sensitive? ħuman 22:10, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Parens are required. That way you can still have sticky in a title such as "Weird Uncle Ed find himself in a sticky situation" and thankfully it will be archived. See how yesterday it skipped two it should have archived.- π 00:53, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. Not case-sensitive? Can you add this to the pibot doccys or should I? ħuman 01:57, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

I haven't checked but it would be handy to have a link from help for this bots instructions if there isn't one already. ^{I am eating} _& honey^chat 02:09, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

The instructions are on its user page, but I don't think there is a link from help. - π 02:28, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like work for me and Susan once she's back up on a real keyboard. Pi, you didn't answer, is it totally non-case-sensitive? ħuman 03:23, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

I maded a bots help page & linked also to Pibot directly from help contents. ^{I am eating} _& honey^chat 00:42, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. - π 01:51, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Also, Pi, no, the latest trick is not documented at user:pibot. Mind if I try to write it? ħuman 03:24, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

The regex is set to ignore case. So long as sticky appears in the smooth brackets in the heading that thread won't be archived. It should be in the question section at the top. - π 03:27, 21 September 2009 (UTC) - π 03:27, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. Do you mind if I try to rewrite the pibot instructions a bit, using lots of headers? I promise I won't muck it up, just trying to help. ħuman 03:30, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Well it has never complained to me about my editing of its userpage, so I guess you can. - π 03:33, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

LOL, thanks ;) ħuman 03:39, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

semi-colon

According to my (admittedly fried) memory of high-school English, semicolons are only used to join two clauses which can stand as complete sentences. Colons are used before lists. JS Leitch 03:00, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh well, Human usually shows up in about two hours and he will sort it out. - π 03:01, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

WP says semicolons can also be used as list separators... it looks good now. JS Leitch 03:05, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I must read my Fowler's one day. - π 03:07, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

; ? ħuman 04:19, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see, at our article on Rush's 2012. I think Toasty fixed it up with marmite on top. ħuman 04:22, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

EC) Colon used to start a list, semis used between elements of a list. ^{I am eating} _& honey^chat 04:23, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Never underestimate...

...the power of a good wiki. It's amazing - every time somebody pimps my blog on RW, the number of hits quadruples. Thanks for the support! --Psy - C₂₀H₂₅N₃O^{You know you want to} 17:06, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Speeling

Pi: lovely, but slightly let down by the spelling. ^{I am eating} _& honey^chat 14:32, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I know I am a bad speller and generally have difficulty with writing, but at least I take courses to try and improve. - π 00:55, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Just BTW I wonder what he (Ken) thinks the "anglophile community" is. ^{I am eating} _& honey^chat 01:05, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

People who love England or English people isn't it? I think Anglo-sphere is what he is looking for. - π 01:11, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I've commented on the page. I thought he meant "English speaking". ^{I am eating} _& honey^chat 01:14, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Anglophone. - π 01:18, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

That's it! ^{I am eating} _& honey^chat 01:23, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Physics, and complex numbers

In case you're interested, I weighed in on User_talk:Zelmerszoetrop.

I will look at the physics things you suggested, but unlike math, where I can jump in and start flaming on a moment's notice, some of these philosophical issues may take a lot of thought. I may not be able to say anything about the teapot, but I may be able to flame about shed some light on the c-decay business. Gauss 01:54, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Good, because I think we've been stalled for months on it now. Probably, mostly, because I am being wrong on the internet, but still... ħuman 04:19, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Really? I thought it was because we have really short attention spans. - π 04:22, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that too ;) ħuman 04:27, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and http://www.dump.com/2009/09/08/mind-blown/ You probably posted it, I dunno, it was at the end of a bunch of tabs on my screen. ħuman 04:35, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Whoa, that is scary! - π 04:48, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

xml style parameters

Could you please fix Pibot so that it doesn't add the pipe between the parameters in the vote(cp) tag when it archives wigos? -- Nx / talk 11:40, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

No worries. - π 00:33, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Pibot

Any ideas as to why Pibot hasn't archived my talkpage lately? I thought I had it set to archive it every 15 days....Punky ^{Your mental puke relief} 12:32, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Your oldest threads are the 18th, they should be archived next time it runs. It has been off line a bit lately with the server set up change. - π 12:42, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. I was just worried there was something in the code that I had messed up or something.Lord Goonie ^{Hooray! I'm helping!} 12:45, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

No, just that the threads are not that old. If you want more archiving just lower the age. - π 12:46, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

ARJ

Do you care to do this one? Or suggest someone who knows more about biology to do it? Maybe TimS? Sterile mitten 02:09, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Weird, it is a lot like the other one. Several thousand words explaining the current literature full of dates ranging from 400,000,000 to 2 billion year old and then right at the end he declares YECism the winner. The whole paper is pretty much

A team of scientists when they worked at the Institute for Creation Research developed a computer simulation program testing the hypothesis that natural selection could use mutations to fix beneficial changes in the genome while eliminating deleterious mutations and consequently evolving an organism into a new form or kind (Sanford et al. 2008). The results of their simulations with human and yeast genomes demonstrated that selection could remove very few deleterious mutations while selecting for beneficial mutations. A summary of their population simulations revealed the following principles: 1) Deleterious mutations continue to accumulate over time. 2) Selection was unable to separate deleterious mutations from beneficial mutations. Both types of mutations are inherited together. 3) The net effect of mutation is always negative. 4) Because the overall effect is always negative, fitness always declines with time. This results in an increase in genetic entropy or loss of information leading to extinction and not new kinds of organisms or biological systems.

The results of the Sanford et al. work is confirmed by the experimental evidence of antibiotic resistant organisms that lose fitness as mutations accumulate. The proposed “road” to a mitoribosome from a prokaryote ribosome ancestor contradicts the observable and experimental evidence indicating stasis among these important biological machines.

They seem to define fitness the same way Philip defines information, something that decreases with time. - π 02:19, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Here is the Sanford paper. Might be worth reading as it is their entire point. - π 02:22, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm... It's not as if biologists haven't ever explored population genetic before. It's kinda funny because creation.com explictly says to go away from the beneficial mutation argument and use the information argument. Endosymbiotic theory is well known, and I've read a little bit about it, but I don't know enough to comment well. I have a book around here somewhere.... Sterile mitten 02:32, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

It also seems like a blatant "gap" argument, and is lame as it proves nothing about origins. Sterile mitten 02:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I have had a go a describing it. If you or anyone else with more than my rusty 8 year old memory of biology want to fix it be my guest. - π 04:18, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Constant Reader

blog has been updated accordingly :). Thanks for the support! --PsygremlinPrata! 15:31, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll go check it out. - π 23:55, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Email

Check it. --The Emperor _{Kneel before Zod!} 03:39, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Crowe

There is only one way to settle this Crowe business. Start a birther movement and demand to see his birth certificate. I am sure we could get WND onboard. Ace^McWicked 23:10, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Want me to kick his ass? He's in town filming a movie in our county jail. Aboriginal Noise ^{What the hell is that thing?} 23:17, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Throw a telephone at him. Ace^McWicked 23:18, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm on it. Aboriginal Noise ^{What the hell is that thing?} 23:20, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Filth

I don't care what the so-called avant-garde, left-wing, intellectual, namby-pambies say, IT IS FILTH! SJ ^Debaser 03:24, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Nice MPFC ref. ħuman 04:35, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Privacy invading shit

What kind of info was it that required oversighting on the CP talk page this morning? Inquiring minds need to know! (ie I'm nosey) Thanks DeltaStar 14:55, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

If you have sysop powers, you can see it, doesn't take much searching but with privacy things we don't actively point it out. It was basically someone uploading a load of details that really shouldn't have been here, IPs and all that, the usual stuff that checkuser records. ^gnostic 15:00, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Operation

Things look good, the beta seems to be running well. Good work. ħuman 09:13, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I am pleased about how it is coming together. - π 10:18, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Todd C. Wood's blog

Honestly, Todd Charles Wood's blog is an interesting read. The October archive plus the Sept. 30 post are just bizarre: I know there's evidence for evolution but I believe in YEC anyway. Sterile mitten 02:15, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I honestly think creationist are giving up on the whole pseudoscience and moved into pseudophilosophy. It is all the worldview crap these days. Have you read PZ Myers' tour of the Creation museum? He described a fake dinosaur dig were there are two scientists, one says how he uses evolution view and he sees this a dinosaur that dies 175,000,000 year ago and the other says I use the bible and I see this a dinosaur that died in the flood. They have pretty much admitted that to any objective rational examination evolution is true, but shove the bible in the way and it is clear creationism is. Have you read Small gods? - π 02:25, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I read some of PZ Meyers tour stuff, and the longer, more in depth one he linked that had lots of pictures. It is bizarre. I can't say I'm surprised by some of the stuff, however: how many new arguments for creationism can you get at this point?--They've all been recycled ad nuaseum. Creationism lit is more like assignments in a creative writing class: OK, class use this science and the Bible and see how you can get them to mesh. And the cognitive dissonance issues astound me.

I haven't read Small gods--not sure what this discworld thing is about--I'll have to talk a look. Sterile mitten 02:35, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Discworld is a world carried through space on the back of four elephants on the back of a turtle. The whole universe they live in is like that, astrology is a cutting edge science constantly in need of updating as the turtles swim around. Small gods focuses on this monotheistic religion that believes that the world is a globe which revolves around the sun and are enraged by this heretic how went to the edge of the world had a look over, saw the turtle and started to tell everyone about it. There is the fabulous scene in the book where the arch-deacon is explaining to a novice the nature of reality. He explains that even though you might be able to see the turtle it is not really there because the truth is that the world is a globe, he knows this to be the truth because it is written in the holy book. - π 02:42, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I'll look the next time I'm at a book store. Sterile mitten 02:33, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Don't bother in second-hand book stores, you can never find them. Seriously ask the staff they will tell you they never have them in stock. - π 03:03, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Reversion

Why did you revert this referenced stuff? Proxima Centauri 10:25, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

a) It was referenced by Wikipedia, which given that it is a wiki is not a reference at all really, b) discussing SETI is a break from the topic, which if you read the first sentence in the paragraph (called the topic sentence) was about alien movies, and c) you removed SETI from the see also list. - π 10:28, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

I took it out unintentionally, someone else added it and I reverted to my version, added a reference and didn't notice that I'd taken anything out. Proxima Centauri 11:13, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

why are you reinserting a lame joke and a grammar mistake? It's either one of the greatest writers or the greatest writer, not the greatest writers--Prometheus 06:55, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

It was the wikipedia link. Also sign your name. - π 06:50, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

What's wrong with the wikipedia link, better have that than cretinwiki. --Prometheus 06:55, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

CP Awards

Just for clarity's sake - since I can be the giant RW bully without even trying - I see it as your project, and all I am doing is making comments wherever I find it interesting to do so. Just so's you know that however you run the voting/nominations on the project page, etc., and whatever you want to make the awards look like, etc., it's all up to you. I'm just someone having fun on the page you built. I would hope this would go without saying, but I want to make sure. ħuman 03:47, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

I would rather not have it as "my project", I just wanted to start it off on the right foot this year. I had a read of last years to see what happened and there was a two month gap between "this would be a good idea" and it actually occurring. We only had about 2 days to vote in the end. Don't let my mother henning of it stop the mob creating what they want, just so long as it is not fucking Star Wars themed I won't mind. - π 03:52, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't mind at all if you "mother hen" it. This sort of thing often works best if there is a "mover" behind it. OK, sure, you don't "own" it. But you are the only one offering management-level commentary, everyone else is all "oh, there should be award for clucking, I nominate Chicken!" But mostly what I am saying here is - hey, I don't mind helping sort it out, but please don't let me "take it over". You're doing fine, it's ok to run a wiki-project. Really. Someone has to, or they don't get run. ħuman 03:56, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Hai

Thank you! 06:04, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Err, I didn't mean to block you for infinite, though I really am a fucker. The length I put in was "a infinite." I didn't know that the wiki would parse that differently than "a ham sandwich." My apologies for the inconvenience and for you having to associate with types as unsavory as Ace McWicked. 15:10, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't notice you message earlier, I always look at the bottom for new messages. That's okay no harm done. - π 03:04, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again brother. 02:29, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

I see...

That you like my colorchoose template. ĴαʊΆʃÇä₰ is writing a comment 04:26, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

It is very good. - π

Ouch. But weird templates are good. :) ħuman 06:23, 28 October 2009 (UTC)