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αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 22:36, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Very true autism point

Why do you think France treats kids the way it does? FU22YC47P07470 (talk/stalk) 22:39, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

The origins of the French approach to treating children with autism lie in the fact that its psychologist community still puts faith into old, pseudo-scientific psychoanalysis to treat autism. This approach has great influence in France, and those who are supposed to treat autism (ranging from nurses to psychologists) are only taught the one-sided psychoanalytic theory of autism, which states that autism is not a developmental disorder, but a mental illness caused by mothers not displaying enough affection to their children.

This approach was used in other Western countries in the middle of the 20th century, but was since abandoned in favor of evidence-based medicine. However, in France, this transition is only starting.

The result of all this is that children with autism are denied evidence-based therapies such as Applied Behavior Analysis, and are treated based on psychoanalytic theories instead, which are not backed by any scientific evidence.--EternalSkeptic (talk) 15:48, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

I'm just wondering what the difference between France and the rest of the world is -- why did France stick with its discredited theories? Mʀ. Wʜɪsᴋᴇʀs, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 20:55, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

To begin with, these discredited theories aren't exactly of French origin. They're merely old doctrines from which the rest of the world moved away from in the middle of the 20th century, but France only began moving away from just recently. As to the "why": it's largely because France is lagging behind in its treatment of autism compared to other developed countries. I wouldn't be able to explain it further than that - the reasons for it lagging behind in this aspect are numerous. It's a huge interplay of different factors. I wouldn't be able to isolate some single cause, a single difference between France and other developed countries which resulted in it lagging behind in its treatment of autism.

If you want to learn more about this topic, you could watch a documentary called The Wall or psychoanalysis put to the test for autism. You could also watch a trailer for a documentary about autism in France, called "Shameful" (it can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab8m6NKcmNs). The founder of WrongPlanet - the largest online autism community, also gave an interview about the state of autism in France, which you may find interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0vL7wr6SQQ --EternalSkeptic (talk) 13:49, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, good reading for later. :) 32℉uzzy; 0℃atPotato (talk/stalk) 19:53, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

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It's not used much any more. If you disagree with the page, edit it, or post on the talk page.! Cømяade FυzzчCαтPøтαтø (talk/stalk) 20:49, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Depending on your level of euphoria

• Category:Apologetics and counter-apologetics may be your cup of tea.
• File:Icon fedora.svg may be of use. FuzzyCatPotato of the Moist Drain cleaners (talk/stalk) 19:53, 6 March 2016 (UTC)