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Right-wing nutballs in London tried to arrest and hang Sadiq Khan[edit]

I wish I was making this up. The group of men, led by a man named Davey Russel, who is also evidently a leading member of the English Defense League, accused London mayor Saqid Khan of treachery, tyranny and disrespecting President Trump. Another person they wanted to 'arrest' was an MP by the name of Kate Green who was chairing the event that Khan was speaking at.

Obviously, they were escorted out by security but it is both disturbing and hilarious that they thought they would accomplish something.

Khan took it all in stride, of course, taking a shot at Trump by calling the men 'very stable geniuses' once they were escorted out of the room. — Unsigned, by: Zaydin / talk / contribs

and he didnt get a refund for his ticket. truly, the terrorists have won. AMassiveGay (talk) 00:26, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
its quite heartening that this is the quality of nazi we have in this country. AMassiveGay (talk) 00:28, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

last months sex and racism scandal[edit]

there was no 'sex scandal'. he parted ways with his missus and shacked up with a younger woman. its only scandalous to puritanical tabloids. considering the recent more real scandals of sexual harassment and abuse, sex scandal here is just dishonest. AMassiveGay (talk) 18:49, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Former Haringey council chief Claire Kober interview. "The only thing worse in Labour than sexism is the antisemitism".[edit]

Why is a Murdoch, right-wing paper's pay-walled article being posted here? This is all I get:

"This week, Ms Kober — the most senior Labour woman in local government — announced her intention to stand down at the local elections in May after a…

Want to read more?"

For a very long time I have wondered why the anti-Semitic card is played so much, when it is apparent that I do not want to be an anti-Semite and nor do any of the people that support equality but who get called it far too often.

A few months ago I saw a British MP talking with a member of the public about Israeli policy, and very quickly the MP started calling the other person an anti-Semite. The member of the public had not made any comments, had not fallen back on stereotypes, had not said anything with a subtext where the only thing could be anti-Semitism. The MP, IIRC an neo-Labour one, then revealed things indirectly: because (most? some?) Jews see the existence of Israel as a core part of their belief, then to criticise Israel, the country, you are actually criticising Judaism whether you know it or not.

That is why saying equality for Palestinians is viewed as anti-Semtic. Israel, the country, seems to have expansionist aims and that deserve criticism, but point that out and you are labelled as thinking like a Nazi.

A spanner in the works is this: Some Muslims say DAESH/Islamic State is a manifestation of their beliefs. Therefore opposition to DAESH is Islamophobia? By the criticism-of-Israel logic, it should be.

Just one more thing.... /Columbo . If criticism of countries was badly hidden religious hatred, then those that persecute Israel would surely have a go against other Judaism-heavy countries? An anti-Semite would attack the foreign and domestic policies of a place, and could pretend they are just making normal political commentary. If there is ever any criticism of, say, the 2nd most Jewish country in the world which parallels what Israel gets, then perhaps criticising a country (even a nominally secular democracy like Israel) could be some kind of religious bigotry. Gibraltar is the second most Jewish country in the world, and that place gets exactly zero criticism. Thus when people criticise Israel they are criticising Israel, not the religion of most of its inhabitants.

Heh, just also seen how this same councillor is reported in the Mail moaning about Sexism in Momentum. Yes, what she has to say could be spot-on, or it could be the for-profit press trying to use ideas of equality and fairness to undermine those that oppose their politics.

BrowserWarVet (talk) 09:28, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

it is disingenuous to suggest that allegations of sexism and anti-semitism within the labour party are a fabrication of the press (you single out the mail and Murdoch publications, so i assume the right wing press). they are widely reported in papers right or left leaning. it is more Labour infighting than some kind of press vendetta. As for the antisemitism in general, it is is on the rise in the UK. We are talking violent assaults not poltical disagreements. AMassiveGay (talk) 11:42, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
I know, re-reading that I ended up letting myself get polarised, giving an implication that those problems are impossible within the left. The DAESH bit is so facile I wish I had made that point better too..... is the existence of the Vatican crucial to Roman Catholics?
I hadn't seen the article (as we know, the best place to base a reasoned criticism) when I commented here, I have since found that by faking my browser agent to be Google the site will provide the whole piece.
Infighting though, People's front of Judea vs. Judean people's front. The left are their own worst enemy sometimes^W since the time of Brian, but those that simply do not want democracy certainly stir things up. Here's a piece I've just read that illustrates good old divide and rule.
Like any group there will be a diversity of views on the left, and as the group is humans everyone started at zero knowledge and understanding. The easy concepts are picked up early and can really hang about. I do not think at all that Momentum or Labour are somehow immune to using prejudice, but their silence is deafening (not that I use anti-social networks (I adblock them off the web), so cannot actually see most of what Momentum might say or don't). I think the silence is amplified for political, profit, viewer-ship and click/tap aims by platform owners. Judging scale of the problem on range from a "storm in a teacup" to something significantly endemic is so difficult, but that seems to be the way of the world these days: FUD everywhere.
BrowserWarVet (talk) 18:39, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

How does the -vote up- -vote neutral- -vote down- voting system work?[edit]

Am I supposed to vote up for articles I like and down for articles I don't like? -- (talk) 02:35, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

No one knows! ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:36, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
That's an arbitrary method of voting. Some would call it, "irrational". -- (talk) 02:41, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Hurray for them. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:44, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
It used to mean that you liked the find, even if you disliked the news - "this is relevant to my interests" as they used to say. These days it seems to mean that you agree with the content. However in CLOGs, it still seems to mean "I join you in laughing at this." Perhaps there should be, as well as "how to write a good WIGO" a "what the voting means" guide. — Unsigned, by: Readymade / talk / contribs 20:54, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

The telegraph, george soros, and antisemitism[edit]

i cannot read the telegraph article, its behind a pay wall. i have read some opinion pieces on the then article elsewhere. they were not very informative. the gist of them was essentially that the telegraph didnt say anything antisemitic, but criticism of george soros is antisemitic, therefore the telegraph article was antisemitic. i understand that soros fearures in many antisemitic conspiracy theories but this does not make him immune to criticism. this helps no one. AMassiveGay (talk) 01:52, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Avast warning[edit]

I was using Google to find a page on RationalWiki and every references to the site gets a yellow ! (This site has a bad reputation). Now that is supposed to be regarding security which is totally dependent on the user's password (wikipedia has the same problem but it is not getting the yellow !). I use the Mac version of the free Avast Security program just in case this is limited to the MacOS. This could be an error but given there is a drop down menu that says "how do you rate your experience" (positive or negative) I wouldn't put it past people for treating the security prompt as a like/dislike button.--BruceGrubb (talk) 19:06, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

@BruceGrubb, someone got hold of some passwords a while back, could be that. Christopher (talk)<

YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asian Males, Lawsuit Says[edit]

Here is a WSJ news article on YouTube hiring discrimination. Could someone put it on the rational wiki world for me? -- (talk) 08:26, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Done. 𝔊𝔬𝔞𝔱-𝔈𝔪𝔭𝔢𝔯𝔬𝔯 𝔅𝔦𝔤𝔰 (𝔴𝔬𝔯𝔡𝔰 𝔬𝔣 𝔴𝔦𝔰𝔡𝔬𝔪/𝔞𝔠𝔥𝔦𝔢𝔳𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔰) 18:11, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
Cheers -- (talk) 00:54, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Canadian peace keeping[edit]

aside from being clearly something for the blogs, its a youtube video AMassiveGay (talk) 14:54, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

@AMassiveGay It's from The National, part of the CBC, a mainstream Canadian news source. If you look at the lower right-hand corner, you will find the CBC logo. If you watch it till the very end, the journalist will identify himself as a CBC employee (in Ottawa). Nerd (talk) 14:59, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
i normally wouldnt have bothered mentioning it, but i initially misread it as being 3 years old. its still one for blogs and i will always downvote youtube. AMassiveGay (talk) 15:23, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
@AMassiveGay How you vote is up to you. But I will move it to WIGO blogs. Your suggestion makes sense. Nerd (talk) 15:31, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

The Daily Mail[edit]

Are we really reduced to Daily Mail headlines? This source seems to be...sensationalist at best. Perhaps some corroborating articles on the same topic by another source would make for a better entry on the WIGO. Regards, Cosmikdebris (talk) 01:42, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

knife and gun crime on the rise in london[edit]

westmonster? seriously? are you taking the piss? AMassiveGay (talk) 19:15, 17 March 2018 (UTC)