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How Will He Lead The UK If He Gets PM — Unsigned, by: GameEnd / talk / contribs

'Corbynchev' ha, I like it. In reality he'd govern pretty poorly. He's a hard-left socialist but the majority of his own MPs are neoliberals and champagne socialists. They are also divided on Brexit, just like the Conservatives. They look united at the moment because they are in opposition to a splintering Conservative government, but as soon as they get into power the cracks will show. I suspect he would achieve very little as a result. --RWRW (talk) 19:02, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Look as long as he honors his secret promise to the hidden cabal of evil socialists to kill every tory, I don't actually care if he succeeds in his publicly plan to turn the entire planet into a giant ant farm with tunnels connect Scotland directly to Poland. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 19:25, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
I don't think he would make a good PM. Look at what happened when he became leader of the Labour party, and imagine everyone is on that bandwagon. It would be hell. Also he might scrap Trident and join the Russian Federation, arguing that a deal with Russian would solve Brexit. And I am not being facetious, I truly believe he would think that is a good idea. β€” NekoDysk 20:15, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Somehow my stupid ant colony policy seems more believable.ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 20:18, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Just what the fuck is going on here? Ζ‰ΓΈn Δ΄uan (talk) 20:19, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
I have no idea, just make up weird stuff about Jeremy Corbyn and add it? β€” NekoDysk 20:26, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
If Corbyn has any sense, once he becomes PM he'll immediately remove the current British royal family and replace them with me. Then he'll dissolve and demolish the entire British government, leaving me as the sole authority in the nation, especially over the armed forces. In return, I'll allow him to remain as a spokesman and advisor for my new regime. Then he will be my loyal minion as I use the UK's military to reestablish colonies in Africa and Asia. Then I SHALL TRULY BECOME THE ETERNAL DUCE, LONG MAY I REIGN!!!!!!!!!! Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 20:36, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Corbyn is a what? If my knowledge of UK politics isn't off then Labour is essentially a center-left faction and any outliers (if Corbyn count as such, which given his track record I'm not convinced he does) in its social framework will be reeled in by the majority, as happens with any social group. The idea that the UK might, le gasp, embrace Social Democracy, or that that might actually be a bad thing, are at best, baseless fearmongering, and at worst outright lies. As someone who is actually hard-left, and much more moderate than most when it comes to political matters, it truly puzzles me to watch such stupidity in action. It's almost as if the people uttering said drivel have no clue about that which they discuss. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 20:42, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

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Okay, I've looked at the definitions of all those things, and my conclusion is ur dum. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 21:12, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Far-left. [1]
  • Socialist. [2]
  • Close to communist. [3]
  • Terrorist hugger. [4]
  • Anti-semitic. [5]
  • Ant-military. [6]
  • Slightly mad. [7]
  • Fruit loop. [8]

See? β€” NekoDysk 21:21, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

If there's a section of a newspaper I expect to have a thorough understanding of "close to communist" it's deffo the art/entertainment part. The musician you cite for "communist" says word for word "he's not a socialist". Which of your own sources do you believe? Are you crazy? ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 23:48, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Yes I am definitely crazy (noted on my userpage), but really, I think the overall point is that a substantial proportion of the British populace firmly believes at least one or two of those statements. The anti-semitic row has been going a while now for instance, no sign of it really being concluded. The entire military believe he is anti-military. And this isn't even touching on his hatred for Her Maj and his dubious relationship with the IRA. Or his time as a commie spy, [9] which probably never happened, but resulted in some funny articles.

β€” NekoDysk 00:44, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

@Dysklyver Which IRA? Provisional, Real, or Continuity? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 00:50, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to point out that Corbyn's more fringe ideals, if not backed by the Parliamentary Labour Party, will inevitably fail in Commons and, therefore, attention should be focused elsewhere.-- Forerunner (talk) 01:16, 20 December 2018 (UTC)