Forum:Ted Cruz as a presidential candidate
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I am wondering how Ted Cruz can run for President? He was not born in the United States yet conservatives see no problem with this, okay I do not agree with everything Obama does but he produced his birth certificate. So why doesn't Ted Cruz show everyone his birth certificate? — Unsigned, by: Rationalzombie94 / talk / contribs
- Cuz he's white? ʇυzzγɔɒтqoтɒтo (talk/stalk) 17:20, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- He doesn't need to show it. It is pretty well acknowledged that the child of a citizen becomes a citizen at birth. If, heaven forfend, he gets nominated, it will be in the Democrats' best interest to avoid making an issue of it. The whole Obama birther thing was petty and specious from the get-go. Repeating that kind of bullshit from the other side of the aisle would be monumentally inane. Alec Sanderson (talk) 17:26, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- What he said. Ted Cruz has plenty of real problems, we don't need to be crazy and invent them like the right wing does. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 18:47, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- Wait a minute... if being born of a US citizen makes you a citizen, why'd they make a big stink about Obama then? I mean, his dad might've been Kenyan, but his mom was American. So even if he HAD been born in Kenya, wouldn't that still make him eligible for the presidency? (User: Mr. Grimm)
- You noticed just now, that the Birthers talked bs right from the beginning?--Arisboch (talk) 19:32, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Well no, I knew already that they were full of shit, but still... Why is it they can pull that shit and we can't call them on it and be "no better than they are" like so many are worrying? What's wrong with saying "Look assholes, if you have such a problem with people not being born in America, regardless of their parents' citizenship, then why not point that finger up your own ass and make the same fuss over Ted Cruz?"?(User: Mr. Grimm)
- They won't, 'cause he's white (or, at least, whiter than Obama, Cruz' dad was/is Cuban. I'm sure,there are some wingnuts, who deem him not white enough) and such bs is really beneath everyone except the nuttiest of the wingnuts (or, if you're talking about Cruz, there are some moonbats, who copy the wingnuts' tactics. Horseshoe theory in action).--Arisboch (talk) 19:47, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Well no, I knew already that they were full of shit, but still... Why is it they can pull that shit and we can't call them on it and be "no better than they are" like so many are worrying? What's wrong with saying "Look assholes, if you have such a problem with people not being born in America, regardless of their parents' citizenship, then why not point that finger up your own ass and make the same fuss over Ted Cruz?"?(User: Mr. Grimm)
- You noticed just now, that the Birthers talked bs right from the beginning?--Arisboch (talk) 19:32, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Wait a minute... if being born of a US citizen makes you a citizen, why'd they make a big stink about Obama then? I mean, his dad might've been Kenyan, but his mom was American. So even if he HAD been born in Kenya, wouldn't that still make him eligible for the presidency? (User: Mr. Grimm)
- What he said. Ted Cruz has plenty of real problems, we don't need to be crazy and invent them like the right wing does. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 18:47, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- He doesn't need to show it. It is pretty well acknowledged that the child of a citizen becomes a citizen at birth. If, heaven forfend, he gets nominated, it will be in the Democrats' best interest to avoid making an issue of it. The whole Obama birther thing was petty and specious from the get-go. Repeating that kind of bullshit from the other side of the aisle would be monumentally inane. Alec Sanderson (talk) 17:26, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Ted Cruz is never going to be the candidate - his job is to make Jeb Bush look reasonable. Doxys Midnight Runner (talk) 19:46, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm. Good point. (User: Mr. Grimm) 7:54 PM, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
- Cruz is for the moment the voice of the Conservative movement (40% of the electorate) which has been silenced and intimidated for six years (for example, voicing criticism of Obama care was greeted with charges of racism until only a few months ago). Most Cruz support ultimately will fall into the Rand Paul camp as Cruz is unlikely to make it to January when voting begins. Despite Jeb's money advantage, as Hillary had in 2008, he'll get his ass handed to him by the young upstart Walker as Obama did to Hillary. The voters do not want to go backward (Hillary in 2008, Jeb 2016), but forward (Obama 2008, Walker 2016). Paul/Cruz conservatives will fall into line, cause Paul represents a Republican party that represents more Bob Taft then Dwight Eisenhower. nobsI was in Bagdad when u wer swirling in yur Dads' bag. 02:28, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm. Good point. (User: Mr. Grimm) 7:54 PM, 25 March 2015 (UTC)