RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/Sarah Andersen

Sarah Andersen | Result: Delete

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Delete

1. Nothing to do with Andersen herself; if this article was per weight it should have, it'd be one passing line in an article on recaptioning. As is, this is an article in her name that only does her discredit because of not noteworthy idiots. In the meantime, this article should not exist at the subject's name. Our copies of the cartoons are already being used by alt-righters as a handy source of them. This article strikes me as ill-conceived and really not in the spirit of our BLP guidelines - David Gerard (talk) 08:30, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
2. Per what David said, also the funpage doesn't make much sense without the mainspace page so that'll have to go if we delete this. Christopher (talk) 08:59, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

   And the recaptioned images - David Gerard (talk) 10:47, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Keep

1. The article hopes to show people that Andersen isn't Nazi. The current Google search for her name returns no other articles about Nazi appropriation of her work in the top 50. The idea is that: [1] Nazis who view the Nazi cartoons won't be affected (they're already Nazis), but [2] Non-Nazis who view the cartoons might question its authenticity, search for Andersen, find out that it's Nazi appropriation of what's consider an "innocent" cartoon, and (2A) be pissed at Nazis and (2B) discover RatWiki. FuzzyCatPotato!™ (talk/stalk) 16:08, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

   Then it should not be at the title "Sarah Andersen". Look, if you really want to keep doing this sort of thing, start a blog. This really does clash badly with what the RW BLP rules are for. Start an article on recaptioning, if there's a convincing one to be written. But this absolutely shouldn't be at the victim's name - David Gerard (talk) 20:24, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

   Would renaming it to "Adulthood is a Myth" work? --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 01:45, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

   Make a new article about recaptioning, I'd suggest - David Gerard (talk) 07:47, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Goat

• I don't agree with the argument that we should delete the article because we potentially help some assholes from the "alt-right" to desecrate the comic. I agree with FuzzyCatPotato: we need to inform them that they're the ones that screw around with the strips and they may give a false impression on Andersen for those less informed and it might be a bigger problem for Andersen if we don't attempt to show the alterations. And in order to show what the "alt-right" has done, it is necessary to show the images. I don't see how our policy on living people applies here since we're not making a statement on Andersen, just documenting that some "alt-right" assholes think it's funny to change the comic to suit their viewpoints, just as how other "alt-right" assholes changed Ben Garrison's comics around. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 01:55, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

  That being said, the current article needs a lot more work (it's just a comic dump lacking ratwikification at this point — I mean, atleast set up a gallery on the page or smth). Also, David's suggestion for a centralized stand-alone article on recaptioning — which could serve to absorb smaller articles, like the Sarah Andersen one — could potentially be good idea. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 10:21, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

• I've added recaptioning to the to-do list - David Gerard (talk) 23:47, 14 May 2017 (UTC)