Talk:Alex Jones
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Found guilty[edit]
Mentioned in the (London) Evening Standard.
Would sending the emails to the other side's lawyer be an example of the Dunning Kruger effect? Anna Livia (talk) 18:51, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
Bankruptcy[edit]
He has so declared - in the financial sense for now - [1] is a reliable source. Anna Livia (talk) 20:49, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
Knowledge Fight spreadsheet.[edit]
Whoever is responsible for thst might want to take a look at the doc. It appears to have been wandalized.--50.68.8.184 (talk) 21:37, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Fascist[edit]
I know AJ is a fascist, but can you give specific details and reasons why in the main paragraph for new audiences reading so they can understand? I didn’t understand at first until I read the box in the article for fascism. Rational Dude (talk) 16:42, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- A fascist is an adherent to a social model whereby institutions that are usually public in certain societies are privately controlled. It's not a general term for a person who you find distasteful. I can't find any examples of Alex Jones meeting the former definition. 57.135.233.22 (talk) 04:05, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- That's a rather narrow definition of fascism that I don't think is widely accepted. You can find three different scholarly definitions of fascism on our fascism page. Bongolian (talk) 04:36, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- From my perspective, I'm not sure the "fascism" label applies very well to Alex Jones. He's an omniconspiratorial grifter carnie troll, and while some of his stances might sort of parallels some of the "new fascist" types of late, I don't think the "fascist" label fully fits Jones himself. In other words, he's not someone like, say, Tucker Carlson (who I consider a full-blown "ruscist"). Jones' primary schtick is conspiracy theory and using it to sell supplements. I don't recall many of the "fascism" bullet points (like promotion of "good old days" traditionalism, militarism, cartoonish masochism, ethnic / sexual puritanism, etc.) as being a big topic in Jones's universe. Could be wrong though. BobJohnson (talk) 14:11, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not an Alex Jones supporter, and I hate having to caveat my posts like this, but I think "fascist" and "Nazi" are thrown around way too casually now. There's "real" Nazis and fascists out there and when people use these terms to describe Elon Musk or Alex Jones and such it makes people numb to the actual atrocities committed by adherents to these ideologies. I get this Wiki is somewhat tongue-in-cheek but this type of snark is becoming part of a bigger problem and maybe these terms should be used in the appropriate context and not for humor and titillation. 57.135.233.22 (talk) 02:57, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
- I think that in general, most here will agree that although fascist = asshole (in almost every case) asshole =/= fascist. Which may clarify Mr. Jones a bit. Kencolt (talk) 03:05, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
- I think if this site is going to assign person X a label, it should at least be accurate. That's consistent with 'rationality'. Some of these biographical articles read more like partisan attack pieces. 57.135.233.22 (talk) 03:21, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
- This is starting to read more like a concern troll piece.
Carthage (talk) 05:38, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
- We'll I'm certainly concerned about throwing these labels around. I don't think I'm a troll, but now I've registered my account. I guess if I'm a troll I'm no longer an anonymous troll. Valgrus Thunderaxe (talk) 06:18, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
- This is starting to read more like a concern troll piece.
- I think if this site is going to assign person X a label, it should at least be accurate. That's consistent with 'rationality'. Some of these biographical articles read more like partisan attack pieces. 57.135.233.22 (talk) 03:21, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
- I think that in general, most here will agree that although fascist = asshole (in almost every case) asshole =/= fascist. Which may clarify Mr. Jones a bit. Kencolt (talk) 03:05, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not an Alex Jones supporter, and I hate having to caveat my posts like this, but I think "fascist" and "Nazi" are thrown around way too casually now. There's "real" Nazis and fascists out there and when people use these terms to describe Elon Musk or Alex Jones and such it makes people numb to the actual atrocities committed by adherents to these ideologies. I get this Wiki is somewhat tongue-in-cheek but this type of snark is becoming part of a bigger problem and maybe these terms should be used in the appropriate context and not for humor and titillation. 57.135.233.22 (talk) 02:57, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
- From my perspective, I'm not sure the "fascism" label applies very well to Alex Jones. He's an omniconspiratorial grifter carnie troll, and while some of his stances might sort of parallels some of the "new fascist" types of late, I don't think the "fascist" label fully fits Jones himself. In other words, he's not someone like, say, Tucker Carlson (who I consider a full-blown "ruscist"). Jones' primary schtick is conspiracy theory and using it to sell supplements. I don't recall many of the "fascism" bullet points (like promotion of "good old days" traditionalism, militarism, cartoonish masochism, ethnic / sexual puritanism, etc.) as being a big topic in Jones's universe. Could be wrong though. BobJohnson (talk) 14:11, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- That's a rather narrow definition of fascism that I don't think is widely accepted. You can find three different scholarly definitions of fascism on our fascism page. Bongolian (talk) 04:36, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- A fascist is an adherent to a social model whereby institutions that are usually public in certain societies are privately controlled. It's not a general term for a person who you find distasteful. I can't find any examples of Alex Jones meeting the former definition. 57.135.233.22 (talk) 04:05, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
NWO Wars[edit]
Apparently, Alex Jones made a game called 'NWO Wars'; Do you guys believe this to be notable enough to add to the article? TheOneAndOnlyCirrusMan (talk) 20:27, 23 November 2023 (UTC)