Talk:Alex Jones/Archive1

Every now and then

Alex Jones may be the most paranoid wackjob on Earth, but he does make some good points and connections now and then. I also loved his cameo in the film "Waking Life."The Goonie 1 01:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

We have an article on that already. - π 01:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

We need a third "talk radio" article I think - not lib or con, but nutter? "woo talk radio"? ħuman 06:02, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, NWO nutters like Alex Jones are not lib or con. Just fucked in the head. Have you seen The Obama Deception/ Biggest piece of paranoid gibberish I have ever seen. Ace McWicked^{Model 500} 06:28, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Should this be added?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmAiD2k8rNY&feature=sub You got to admit it's pretty damn funny.Ryantherebel (talk) 17:49, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

IMO the earlier 'chimpanzee' section was much better, it brings more attention to the video. Not many people would click the footnote to see the video. 184.82.251.90 (talk) 03:27, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Are we to crate entire sections based on every weird thing Jones utters? Ace^Moderator 03:28, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

At least for the major ones? This is too good to be buried in a footnote imo. 184.82.251.90 (talk) 06:15, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Sockpuppets present?

Has anyone checked that out? There's absolutely no way in hell he can have that many likes on each video he uploads on YT.

If it's legit, then I weep for humanity. Osaka Sun (talk) 09:02, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

A disproportionate amount of the internet are conspiracy theorists. Mr. Anon (talk) 03:40, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Doesn't help that organizations like Anonymous go around making claims like "a new law allows the government to assassinate US citizens". Also, it makes sense that conspiracy theorists end up being the ones who find conspiracy videos. Mr. Anon (talk) 03:42, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Question

Are the chief 'grand unified conspiracy theorists' themselves actually the conspiracy - along the lines of 'The Man who was Thursday'? 171.33.222.26 (talk) 18:30, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Copied from Forum

Rational Wiki?? All i read on the Rational Wiki Alex Jones page was biased. I have absolutely no time for sites like this. A balanced opinion of somebody is fair. I associate Rational Wiki with those bullies at school who have an inferiority complex of themselves and love to bitch about others to make themselves feel good.

You had my attention on the world wide web, and lost it within seconds.

Koala Bear, Australia.

DRINK! Polite Timesplitter ^{come shout at me for being thick} 13:56, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

People crazier than Alex Jones

Alex Jones Exposed

This site is crazy, I hope it's a Poe, because it's just chock-full o' anti-semitic nuts. --TheLateGatsby (The end of the dock ) 19:18, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

As a general rule, for each prominent CT - Jones, Icke, etc. - there is at least one other conspiracist claiming that they are disinfo agents/shills for the TPTB/mind-controlled plants, etc. In Conspiracyland, people can't be ignorant, mistaken, deluded or just wrong (since admitting that would put ones' own positions in question), so if they contradict what one believes, they must be agents of the Enemy.--ZooGuard (talk) 19:40, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Hitchen's quote

If it is not about Jones why is it there? Aren't we effectively putting words in his mouth? He probably agreed with the sentiment, but it is not our place to express his view on Jones for him. - π 09:21, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Are there any conspiracy theories he DOESN'T believe?

Because if so I think it's worthy of a section.TheSocktor (talk) 22:21, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Incitement to murder

Surely there should be some mention of his advocacy of murdering pro GMO journalists?

Gary Johnson

Gary Johnson thinks marijuana can treat Ebola. The man deserves his own article. nobs^{It all depends what ISIS is.} 05:11, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Sass

Anyone else think the first like should have some sass? Like "Alex Emerick Jones (born 11 February 1974) is a raving loon..." Qscgy (talk) 03:23, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Tin Foil Hats

Actually, yep. And encourages his anchors to wear 'em too. --Castaigne (talk) 18:23, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Political stance

I merged all the little bits on Alex Jones' politics into one section, and they seem a bit contradictory. What does Alex Jones really think, here? Cømrade FυzzчCαтPøтαтø (talk/stalk) 18:16, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

If Alex Jones has even one sincere belief system in his head from my observation it is an intellectually dishonest interpretation of Objectivism that enables his predatory radio chicanery on the logic that if he can make money any way at all and if it profits him then there is nothing wrong with his behavior no matter how destructive it might be to his listeners and whomever he targets with his bag of hoaxes. It should be readily apparent to anyone observing for long enough that Jones doesn't believe much of anything that he is saying and is merely saying it to build his radio brand and make money. Jones is a professional infotainment charlatan and his chosen medium is conspiracy theories. It's all money making and self promotion for him; writing him off as crazy only serves his purposes because it deflects from the real issue: that all of this is a not very elaborate system of hoaxes designed to make money. Pelican (talk) 17:27, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

This chart

What is it saying? [1] FᴜᴢᴢʏCᴀᴛPᴏᴛᴀᴛᴏ﹐ Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 05:42, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Alex Jones is a professional charlatan and clearly does not believe any of this

If you REALLY want to accurately label Alex Jones and inform people, call him for what he is: a charlatan who makes his money and fame by creating conspiracy hoaxes.

Alex Jones is not just a garden variety crazy person. Jones is a professional conspiracy charlatan for pay and absolutely not any kind of true believer in these conspiracy theory hoaxes that he spins. He is a charlatan out to get money and promote himself. Furthermore, referring to him as a crazy does EVERYONE except Alex Jones and his advertising revenue a disservice.

Let me say that again: It is of the utmost importance to not refer to Alex Jones as just another crazy but instead as professional infotainment charlatan. Jones feeds off of the crazy label; he loves that shit. When people call him crazy it draws his fans closer to him and actually builds loyalty. He's pretending to be "one of them"; identical to his listeners who actually do believe these things. They are his rubes and he needs them to stay in business.

It is vital to his business model for these people to think of him as "ONE OF THEM" and calling him a crazy is just another way to make them accept him as their own. After all, those people who do believe these things have probably been called crazy a bunch of times. Jones is, in his own way, building a cult of a sort wherein his listeners are invited to be a part of a group of people with 'secret knowledge'; this distributed cult is isolated from outsiders through a system of hostile rhetoric on both sides of the issue; People who disagree with them are often insulting and dismissive (because the things they say are admittedly quite ludicrous) on the one hand and people who agree with them are programmed to be insulting and dismissive themselves through repetition of Jones's many insults (sheeple, etc) to absolutely anyone who is critical of his many conspiracy hoaxes. Jones is not a passive participant in this either because he routinely goes on rants designed to alienate his listeners from any potential voice of reason by targeting any critic loud enough to get his attention. Additionally, the rhetoric is designed to appeal to people who rely on magical thinking as a coping mechanism for a world that one can surmise they already feel is sinister and rather arcane. As tempting as it is to dismiss Alex Jones as a loonie, actually plays into his hands. IMO if he could be said to be crazy, it is because he has no morals, no ethics and clearly no sense of human decency or responsibility to his fellow persons in any perceivable way.

This is the kind of guy that can laugh while he labels the family's of dead kids as fakes and encourage his listeners to further antagonize survivors of the Sandy Hook horror. Crazy in a fashion but not in the way it is easy to think. He's the other kind of crazy; the one that can laugh and hurt people for profit after their children get killed by a psycho with an assault rifle. If we really want to fight against the kind of thing Jones brings into the room, it should be defining him by his actual 'sins'... crazy people aren't really responsible for crimes are they? Lets make Alex Jones responsible and not give him the escape route he needs. Pelican (talk) 18:19, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

While I personally agree, where's the hard evidence? It's possible that he's really just that crazy, and so are a few million people. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 19:16, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Poe-o-meter is over 9000!--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 20:21, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Its so unlikely that I wouldn't even consider it a possibility; like Bigfoot for example. The architecture and dissemination of his rhetoric drives the likelihood he believes these things to an extremely unlikely place. People who are so disordered that they absolutely believe all of the things Jones claims are just not capable of maintaining a career, radio show, or really much of a functional life at all. Its not just that either, if you pay attention the way these wild rafts of lies are cobbled together you start to see the pattern that Jones is desperately bundling things together to pack as much intrigue as possible into everything that crosses his desk. He's not even that good of a liar, its just that the nature of his audience is such that they don't think very critically about what they are being told. And he supplements that by repeating these things over and over again. If you've ever looked at a good debunking of his work it becomes very apparent that he freehands damn near everything he says with little to no actual research done on anything. The centerpiece of his Molech (Moloch) nonsense regarding bohemian grove is pure theological gibberish and while he is capable of redressing very slight and nuanced positions against him in a characteristic intellectually dishonest manner he's never once retracted anything that was shown to be completely unfactual. He just repeats himself louder and often accompanied by plugs for his radio ad and his little advertisement films for his radio show that he likes to call documentaries. If you take all of his serial logical fallacy employment, his use of manipulative propaganda tactics (however poorly), his free willingness to lie incessantly without pause or censor, his bombastic angry responses to even the slightest questioning, his incessant plugging of his own work and sourcing of his own vapid work as evidence all together with the understanding that this is a man that gets up every day and goes to work to do a radio show and finds time to hold long coherent conversations with celebrity guests while operating his program then the only likely culprit for his behavior left is self promotion for profit; not any kind of serious mental illness other than maybe being a psychopath with no functional sense of morality or ethics. Pelican (talk) 04:49, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

@arisboch, Seriously, you think my position is extreme? He's chasing ratings. What exactly do you think his business model is? Go on the air, tell the truth in a reasoned and well sourced manner? He's doing this for money. Christ, I can't believe anybody would think he was actually being honest given the way he conducts himself.^{— Unsigned, by: Pelican / talk / contribs}

Adultery claims of Alex Jones and alleged divorce of jewish wife

Should the below link be allowed in the links section? Some people says no.

Alex Jones ignores adultery claim, leaked divorce with Jewish wife https://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2015/09/08/alex-jones-keeps-audience-in-dark-about-alleged-adultery-leading-to-divorce-with-jewish-wife/

The thing is, Alex Jones is not obliged in any way to tell ANYONE about his divorce.--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ 18:18, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Is there violation of rules on this wiki?42.61.58.42 (talk) 00:46, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

I question it's validity since the only things I can find on it make Alex look like the sane guy. The fervor over it is interesting, especially from fans, like David Duke was the subject. -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 19:55, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

The link is legitimate and I see no violation of any rules here. I see no problem with the link being placed in the article. Anyone feels that there is violation of rules?42.61.58.42 (talk) 00:44, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Oh come now. No, we should not link to a blog dedicated to "exposing" the "Judeo-Masonic conspiracy." smh --

Adding, unless it is a link to demonstrate woo or idiocy etc; but not for support of a claim per se.-Mona- (talk) 00:57, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

The article is sound, it does not say that Alex Jones has committed adultery or is divorced. It talks about allegations and rumours on those issues. I see no problem with the source.42.61.58.42 (talk) 05:41, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

"There are rumours that the user of IP 42.61.58.42 is secretly an eater of jerboa intestines with Barney Torville." Should we start an article?

“A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes”

You do realise that this includes reference to a possibly totally innocent third party, don't you? Stop it with the rumour spreading. Next time you get blocked. Scream!! (talk) 09:16, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

What kind of garbage are you talking about? I don't get the garbage that is coming out from your mouth.101.127.163.105 (talk) 11:17, 7 October 2015 (UTC)101.127.163.105 (talk) 11:16, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

The info fails at relevancy (it's simple gossip about Jones' personal life), and the source of the info fails at reliability (one single Wordpress blog). I say, keep irrelevant falsehoods out of the article. --Slimy goop (talk) 09:26, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Some BoN with terrible taste

Somebody please integrate this image into the article

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Thorazine_advert.jpg

69.121.20.54 (talk) 04:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Jones' self-defense system

With supreme irony, the website about "The most lethal self defense system in the world" is now dead. 82.132.231.30 (talk) 15:49, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Silver?

Seems like it fits. oʇɐʇoԀʇɐϽʎzznℲ (talk/stalk) 16:33, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Is there an aluminum level? It's silver colored and cheaper :-) -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 16:46, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Hell yes this beautiful disaster is of Silver quality, Reverend Black Percy (talk) 17:06, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Looks pretty damn good to me, worthy of silver.--JorisEnter (talk) 17:11, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia's "political skeptic" description of Jones

On the Wikipedia page of this fine specimen of human delusion and paranoia, Jones is described as a "political skeptic". That amused me a little bit considering that Joneses work seems quite on the contrary to skepticism. I'm curious why he's described as a "political skeptic" because pretty much all people described as skeptics don't believe in this bunk (in fact, they debunk said bunk) that Jones believes in.--WMS (talk) 22:00, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

He is political, but he's the opposite of a skeptic. Someone who consistently errs on the side of "less plausable" with Occam's Razor (i.e. believes any batshit conspiracy told to him)isn't a skeptic. Petey Plane (talk) 22:12, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Wonder why Wikipedia labeled him as a "skeptic". Anyway, thank you for the clarification: I'm very glad that he doesn't fall under the skeptic category--WMS (talk) 22:39, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Just one of Wiki's many failed attempts at maintaining an NPV. Petey Plane (talk) 13:14, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Yes. And I think, even so, labeling him as any type of "skeptic" is objectively incorrect, even according to their NPOV. That should be changed to some other NPOV term that isn't actually wrong. And all of this because they can't just call him what he is, the "fairy godmother of cranks". Reverend Black Percy (talk) 13:30, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

"Fairy godmother of cranks" hahahaha, that's bloody brilliant, I love it!--WMS (talk) 20:47, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Words

It might be better to choose less crass wording in view of your international audience where cultures vary. Unless the point is to be crass and insulting so you will not be taken seriously.

>basically the same horseshit

>Jones can't fart without blaming it on a conspiracy of bean producers.

Ignorance is so trendy.

EDLIS Café (talk) 20:34, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

EDLIS Cafe, how about you take your globalist pro-beanism somewhere else? Typical legume sheeple. Sir ℱ℧ℤℤϒℂᗩℑᑭƠℑᗩℑƠ (talk/stalk) 20:38, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

"Can't fart without blaming it on a conspiracy of bean producers"... That one always gets me! Ahahaha. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 20:40, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Why Alex won't be appearing on RT any longer

I haven't the stomach to watch this man talk anymore, but it appears Alex won't be consulted on RT anymore (which he used to be, VERY fucking regularly). Apparently the following clip with Alex contains an explanation as to why he won't be on there anymore. RT also seems to have done some bad press on him recently; quite unlike them, who used to have him on as an "expert" (lmao). Anyone here have the guts to look into this, watch Alex' clip, and tell me why there's a scuffle? Reverend Black Percy (talk) 16:29, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Just a glorious headline

SANDY HOOK CONSPIRACY THEORIST INVITES SLAIN SCHOOL PRINCIPAL’S DAUGHTER ON RADIO SHOW. FuzzyCatPotato of the Dumb Scrolls (talk/stalk) 15:38, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

PizzaGate

http://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2016/12/16/alex-jones-deletes-video-which-he-had-told-his-audience-personally-investigate-pizzagate-restaurant/214846 Mʀ. Wʜɪsᴋᴇʀs, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 22:47, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Reverend Black Percy (talk) 01:46, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Goblins

This has been around for a while but I only just discovered it.

These comments don't make a whole lot more sense in context. Here is the original & here is Jones returning to the subject. ΨΣΔξΣΓΩΙÐ^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 19:18, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

It's all about the DMT, Renai Circulation, Gay Bomb. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 21:05, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

My bestest November block reason Also, if you guys like this type of stuff, don't miss the best one so far. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 05:30, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Infowars published unverified bullshit based on two private messages.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/this-guy-tricked-infowars-into-publishing-a-completely-fake?utm_term=.obxO8dxBQ#.iwKVwyMgD Fuzzy "Cat" Potato, Jr. (talk/stalk) 02:41, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

So basically: this. Way to go, Alex Also, top comment on Buzzfeed made me exhale sharply through the nose:

So basically standards of journalism are rock bottom across the board and click bait is king?

Something something clickbait, indeed. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 02:47, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Alex Jones debates David Duke — what is this I don't even

I've only seen a minute of this and I'm already posting it. This is so fucking bizarre to watch. It's a patently loaded situation, and you can tell Alex is well aware. The whole start if the video is Alex contorting, putting out a major disclaimer in an attempt to distance himself from the guy he's about to have on his show.

Two sides of the far right that, as far as my limited understanding goes, pretends the other one doesn't exist are now sat down together to "debate". I've no idea where this discussion will lead, if anywhere.

And secondly; in the first minutes, Alex Jones actually claims that he was offered a slot on the Howard Stern show? The hell? What are the odds on that being true?

That's not even a quote mine, or part of someone else's questioning. Alex is sweating bullets to the point that he just blurts it out on his own accord. I'm hoping the rest of the video turns out to be a similar trivia goldmine. Assuming I can stomach watching more than five minutes of this. Guh.

Also — not to fall into the ol' Nazi trope of "argument from caricature" — and I don't know if it's just the lighting or whatever, but how the hell does Duke look like this? I'm not even talking about skin color — just in terms of like image overexposure, the guy looks completely alien, atleast in the thumbnail.

I mean, normally, Alex doesn't exactly pass for anything but a big fat white guy, yet he comes off looking brown as a teabag compared to Duke in this thing, what with his chrome hair and glow-in-the-dark beard. I dunno — maybe this is just how pareidolia works and I'm a fucking idiot.

Or maybe Duke is such a little man that he's actually fiddled with his webcam settings (an easy thing to do) to try and "bring out the white". *shudder*

I've no idea what's going on, but I'm trying this. Here goes nothing, kids. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 02:30, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Ok, so, a few minutes in, and it's all a bunch of super-folk evolutionary psychology out of Alex. I just noticed this thing is two hours long. Oy vey. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 02:54, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

At about 3:30, Alex talks about what he percieves to be a (quote) "christian, western ethic of transcending tribalism" — in other words, The White Man's Burden? Reverend Black Percy (talk) 02:57, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

5:43, an absolutely insane quote from Alex. Verbatim: "So yes, there's a war on white people.". Alex, for fuck's sake

How is this even a "debate"? Alex' starting speech has been to embrace most, if not all, of the edgiest Alt-right fantasies. What the hell is going to be left for Duke to say? Ruminate on the Holohoax indefinitely? This "debate" seems more like the two hands of the same body playing thumb war, if not outright brofisting. Tsk. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 03:01, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

At 6:38, Alex claims that "political correctness" is the actual cause of class warfare. Yes, you read that correctly. Let's call that a rather novel take on Marx, shall we. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 03:16, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

After talking completely out of his ass for a bit...

(incomplete quote from 6:51): "...whipping up gigant, exported populations to break and further destroy the west in an act of genocide..."

...Alex actually manages to allude to the fact that all supremacist movements are indeed supremacist movements (about 7:04). Congratulations. Now, this was buried under a lot of hooey — and Alex? I certainly don't know that Al Sharpton is the (quote) "mirror image" of David Duke, dude. And Duke certainly should not "have his own show on MSNBC". Reverend Black Percy (talk) 03:29, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

About 8:03 to 8:25, Alex literally says not only that "the left" NEEDS David Duke, but that "the left" is (quote) "a THOUSAND TIMES MORE WICKED than David Duke is" when it comes to their hatred of black people. He really foams at the mouth when he says it too, like some real baptist preacher. Around this point, I'm about a **** hair from giving up on this whole thing, to be perfectly frank. What's left to debate? "The jewish question"? It's indeed true what Christopher Hitchens once said; that all bigots and frauds are brothers under the skin. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 03:46, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

9:03 is where Duke enters. And where I shut off, atleast for now. It appears that his first reaction is to say to Alex "Everything that you've been ranting about — the NWO, divide and conquer and rooting out the enemy of all mankind — is perfectly true, BUT, who is THE REAL hidden elite in society?" Oh, brother. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 03:46, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Lessons learned from Trump's InfoWars interview

Some notes, post-rewatch:

• 0:05 — Alex brags about having had Matt Drudge (of all people) on the show. Truly a meeting of the minds, I'm sure.
• 1:00 — Alex rehashes Trump's claim that radical muslims (not just muslims) were celebrating in New Jersey (among other places) [as the towers were coming down on 9/11]. Kind of a bold statement. Alex also says something about having footage of Dan Rather (?) in this context.
• 1:30 — Trump's reply is not to question Alex' above given account of events, but to endorse it as being entirely factual. Indeed, Trump even adds a personal anecote wherein he claims that multiple witnesses came forward to him and said (quote):

Mr Trump, I saw it myself, I was there [in Paterson, New Jersey]. I saw it myself, Mr Trump — I was there.

Worth nothing is that based on this quote, the witnesses appear to share speaking mannerisms with Trump.

• 1:45 — Interesting quote. Trump says to Alex, "People like you and me can't [apologize] so easily". Yeah, that particular shortcoming comes with the personality disorder passion.
• 3:15 — Trump claims that Obama is over somewhere "celebrating global warming". Like, literally celebrating the looming threat of climate change. Now, I've only heard of (on the one hand) people who understand that climate change is a scientific fact and, as such, express legitimate concern, and (on the other hand) people who deny that climate change is even occuring. Obama'd have to be the first to allegedly know that it's happening and to celebrate that it is.
• 4:40 — Here's a real kicker. Trump claims not just prescience of the 9/11 attacks, but indeed foreknowledge that Osama Bin Laden would turn out to be the guilty party. Further, Trump also claims to have written verbatim that Osama should be taken out [while there was still time].

Now, sure — 19 months before 9/11, Trump did happen to write a book touching on a wide range of topics pertaining to American politics (called The America We Deserve) in which he MENTIONED quite A LOT of things, including the 1993 WTC bombing (being a skyskraper-owning New Yorker himself), and in which he "predicted" that some terrorist attack way bigger than the 1993 WTC bombing was bound to happen sooner or later.

Even crummy BuzzFeed found this nugget of clickbait too good to resist (and as they note, his "prediction" actually specifically involved the detonation of nuclear weapons in a major US city — not anything resembling 9/11, aside from the attack being a suicide mission), lazily taking the opportunity to endorse Trump's nostradamian moves as basically real in exchange for tasty clicks.

Here's the vital part, though (which BuzzFeed fails to mention). In a segment of the book unrelated to his brief mention of the 1993 WTC bombing, Trump instead discusses the 1998 US bombing of terrorist camps in Afghanistan and Sudan. This entire portion consists of the following (full quote from page 304):

The UN inspectors have done their work, everything’s fine, not to worry. The next day the bombing begins. One day we’re told that a shadowy figure named Osama bin Laden is public enemy number one, and U.S. jet fighters lay waste to his camp in Afghanistan. He escapes back under some rock, and a few news cycles later, it’s on to a new enemy and a new crisis.

AFAIK, this is all he really says about Osama. Note also that, regarding Osama, there's nothing about taking him out, or that he is going to attack the US. Yet Trump claims in the above viewable InfoWars interview to basically have known ahead of time, to have tried to warn the people, and to have been sabotaged by liberals failed.

One is forced to ask; considering that Trump knew the future ahead of time, shouldn't he have tried to be more clear than just shooting off some vague details in passing? If he really knew (or was convinced) — being a billionaire who people actually listen to — wouldn't it be reasonable to have expected a louder message from him on this topic? Or maybe that's just unfair hindsight bias on my part.

• 6:20 — Alex tells it like it is, literally claiming to Trump that (quote):

You were the only leading American figure who openly said "Do not go to war in Iraq".

Alex claims this one-man peace movement led the struggle throughout "2001, 2002 and 2003", until the anti-war movement would finally consist of anyone but a lone, brave Donald Trump.

It's strange; I was just 10 years old in 2001, but I really do forget that time when Trump was the only person in America who wasn't championing the Iraq invasion outright. You remember that time? Also, note that Trump fully accepts Jones' description of events, finding nothing worthy of correction in Jones' characterization.

• 09:55 — Just gonna note that suddenly, NBC isn't considered a fake news outlet by Alex anymore. But just until they are again.
• 10:30 — Interesting quote from Alex (to Trump):

The Russians started hitting the oil for one month and ISIS is already rolling over. So Putin is already following your strategy. You know Vladimir Putin well.

• 14:35 — Cringe alert! Alex blows his own whistle a little too hard, and suddenly it's very obvious that he just got himself caught somewhere between lying and exaggerating wildly. Trump picks up on it instantly; he knows. He knows.

Just immerse yourself in Alex' own 1+ second long mid-speech pause (and observe Trump's reaction to it).

For those that can't stomach watching this spectacle (Alex' liar pause is truly the worst ever), the quote in question is this (said by Alex):

I wanna come to this point next, because I know you're smart Sir. And I know you also, though — you don't dumb your message down, but you keep it at a mid-level so the general public and the establishment as well can get it, but let's get down to brass tacks. I routinely talk to the [SUPER AWKWARD PAUSE] top generals! Special forces. Uhm... Pentagon. Currently uh, out of the pentagon, CIA — as I know you do [too]. We'll just leave it at that.

"We'll just leave it at that" <- Nice save, dude. Smooth transition. Guh, it's really so cringe it makes me shudder!

• 20:45 — Alex makes a complete jackass of himself, forcing Trump to basically explain that the whole Clinton witch hunt is obviously just a bit, and that in real life, these top names all ultimately dine around the same table. It's like Jones doesn't have a clue how people work. Seriously — dat feel when Trump is made to seem sensible next to Alex, by Alex.
• 22:55 — Trump names Ronnie Raygun as his all-time favorite president (and appears to have based his slogan on Reagans' "Let's Make America Great"). If only Trump would embrace his inner RINO and give us a silver lining in all this... Sigh.
• 25:20 — This is the best thing ever. An actual InfoWars ad with such a profound "4AM TV-shop ad" vibe that it could just as well have been made by Tim & Eric. It even uses the shitty echo effect for "ILLUSION OF CHOICE!!!". Also, actual "Matrix" and "programming" terminology is employed. If you only watch one thing out of the actual interview, watch this part. Words cannot do it justice.
• 26:40 — Alex and Trump fawn over Roger Stone, and interestingly, we're told that he's the link between Trump and Alex. Turns out, as both Trump and Alex say outright, it was Stones' idea that Trump even go on InfoWars and give an exclusive interview in the first place (because Stone is a Jones fan). Thanks, Stone.
• 28:10 — Your typical dime-a-dozen Trump quote, this time on the art of being humble:

I won't take full credit, but I will take 99.9% credit.

• 30:35 — Winged words from Trump. Trump to Alex:

I just wanna finish by saying your reputation is amazing. I will not let you down. You'll be very, very impressed — I hope — and I think we'll be speaking a lot, but you'll be looking at me in a year, or two years — let's give me a little time to run things, but — a year into office you'll be saying "Wow, I remember that interview! He said he was gonna do it, and he did a great job". You'll be very proud of our country.

That's the POTUS saying he'll be "speaking a lot" to Alex Jones (of all people). Talk about an important Russian connection into the White House, lmao — the guy wasn't made a recurring gag on FSB RT for years on end for nothing. Just saying.

If I recall correctly, there's not much new in that 10-something minute gap between the bullet points. I could be wrong (I still have a fever, stupid influenza), but as I recall it, it's nothing spectacular. Just more Hillary bashing, Jones being a **** lunatic, Trump being wishy-washy on Putin, amateurish geopolitical discussion, et cetera. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 00:56, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

You're doing god's work. Bless you. Petey Plane (talk) 02:21, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Hearing that makes it all worthwhile, champ Reverend Black Percy (talk) 03:05, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

I can't listen to Trump for a minute. He just needs to get to the damn point. How do you tolerate listening to this? Also, the time stamps posted don't match the video.—チーズバーガー • めん  (talk • stalk) 02:37, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, and don't forget stirring that vocal drink with Alex' raspy preacher-voice, too. Regarding the timestamps — which ones don't match, exactly? I'm certain that the vast majority do. Keep in mind that I've chosen even numbers, not exact seconds (because that becomes quote miney), so in some of them, you're expected to listen in for 30-60 seconds before it really gets to the thing I write about. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 03:05, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

>Listen for 30-60 seconds

Jeez, I can't listen to Alex or Trump for that long. :P I appreciate the effort though, you have more tolerance than I have.—チーズバーガー • めん  (talk • stalk) 04:08, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Gold?

What would this article need for gold? Mʀ. Wʜɪsᴋᴇʀs, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 03:46, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps some more analysis, e.g. via integrating the most interesting stuff mined above? Reverend Black Percy (talk) 21:58, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

TBH I think that should have its own section on-page. (Documenting the interview between a conspiracist and the POTUS is kinda important.) How I shirk that duty and you do that? :P oʇɐʇoԀʇɐϽʎzznℲ (talk/stalk) 14:27, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Please pull up a chair and just check this video out

If you haven't got the badass sense of humor stamina to watch this whole thing, the highlight of the century plays at 5:46. If nothing else, watch that part. I mean, what in the WORLD is GOING ON in the InfoWars studio!? Reverend Black Percy (talk) 00:06, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

That was a great satire! One really has to wonder if Alex is faking it for money or is really just a fucking moron. I'd like to think the former, I hope humanity is better than this.......—チーズバーガー • めん  (talk • stalk) 02:52, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

FBI

Talking Points Memo claims that the FBI is investigating both Breitbart and Infowars regarding collusion with Russia.[2] Bongolian (talk) 01:45, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Hahaha! Please be true. Allow me to quote myself from here:

"That's the POTUS saying he'll be "speaking a lot" to Alex Jones (of all people). Talk about an important Russian connection into the White House, lmao — the guy wasn't made a recurring gag on FSB RT for years on end for nothing. Just saying."

Oh, I think the feds might uncover a connection after all... Reverend Black Percy (talk) 02:58, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Quotable bullshit

https://np.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5vnaqz/alex_jones_here_to_maga_ask_me_anything_and_lets/ Herr FüzzyCätPötätö (talk/stalk) 18:14, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Oh sweet Jesus!

I know it says Verified, but is that actually Alex Jones!? If so, it's a quote goldmine!! Reverend Black Percy (talk) 19:31, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

This just in

Note that all of the above spliced together bits came from the same single, original source video. That's quite the accomplishment, even for Alex. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 14:19, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

PEAK MALE PERFORMANCE The FCP Foundation (talk/stalk) 20:39, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Is there any way to extract this video?

https://twitter.com/TheeCurrentYear/status/849649791059546113 Fuzzy "Cat" Potato, Jr. (talk/stalk) 07:31, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Say no more fam

An old warez pirate adage: "If it can be played, it can be copied". Reverend Black Percy (talk) 11:41, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Pretty fucking metal

Reverend Black Percy (talk) 01:32, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

In a nutshell

I included these videos. It's hard to understand the crazy of Alex Jones without watching some of his videos. I think that these three perfectly summarize Jones, without giving him any traffic.

I frankly don't see why they shouldn't be included in the rest of the article. They're a bit light-hearted and they continue the trend of peppering each section with hilarious insanity. Herr FüzzyCätPötätö (talk/stalk) 03:45, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, videos do good justice.—チーズバーガー • めん  (talk • stalk) 04:09, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Naah guys, let's not stick in embedded meme vids. C'mon team. We can include them in any way that isn't embedded though. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 04:18, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

1 meme video for 2 serious ones should be fine. The whole article is 25% "Jones is stupid" jokes anyway. :P Herr FuzzyKatzenPotato (talk/stalk) 04:20, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

*waps with rolled-up newspaper* Bad kitty! Nnnaw! >:3 Reverend Black Percy (talk) 04:25, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Substantive response? FuzzyCatPotato of the Cheery Cats (talk/stalk) 20:42, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

You don't wanna see me kissing fuzzies, ingratiating fuzzies, in bed with a fuzzy. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 21:32, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I added 3 vids back in. I moved the Goblins one to the end. oʇɐʇoԀʇɐϽʎzznℲ (talk/stalk) 17:14, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, seems fine actually. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 21:17, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

I feel ashamed I ever subscribed to his youtube channel --86.20.195.10 (talk) 11:00, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Atleast you didn't use to send the guy money, like me. Oh well — my truther-to-skeptic deconversion story is atleast pretty spicy. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 11:40, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

OK, you've been deconverted, but have you been to a devival 😉? I have! Bongolian (talk) 01:56, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Wow, how was it? Never knew that much about the Church of the SubGenius, myself (but I'd love to know more). Reverend Black Percy (talk) 02:03, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Way back when, I went to a lot of San Francisco underground scene events. A lot of these events had people who were SubGenii, including a couple of old timers, namely Puzzling Evidence (amateur videographer) and Dr. Hal / Dr. Howland Owl. These two also did a late night radio show, also called Puzzling Evidence. Anyway from what I can remember, the Devival featured SubGenius rants interspersed with the odd & sometimes risque entertainment, and impromptu pot smoking in the lobby. I think Ivan Stang showed up but he didn't say much. One of the more memorable statements was to the effect that if anyone ever got to the point of actually believing the SubGenius schtick, that the Church would deprogram you itself. ^{— Unsigned, by: Bongolian / talk / contribs}

I've been a card carrying SubG since the nineties or so. There were a couple of Devivals in Baltimore in 2007-2008; at them, I finally got to meet Rev. Stang and Rev. Susie the Floozy, among others, in person, after many years of enjoying their various media. Nice people and a great time. For a newcomer I recommend checking out their various books, and the archives of Hour of Slack here, and here. Regards, Cosmikdebris (talk) 02:52, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Jones Grips

32℉uzzy; 0℃atPotato (talk/stalk) 11:45, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Child custody

Jones is currently involved in a child custody case with his ex-wife, Kelly. Alex's lawyer claims that he's just a performance artist and shouldn't be judged by his on-air persona. Kelly claimed that Alex is unstable, and that "I'm concerned that he is engaged in felonious behavior, threatening a member of Congress." (i.e., Rep. Adam Schiff)

The judge has approved at least some Infowars material as evidence for the case, including a clip that showed Alex grooming his son to be his successor on the show. [3] Bongolian (talk) 18:37, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Apparently Alex Jones is involved in another lawsuit with Chobani Yogurt over a false allegations of rape: *https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/nation-now/2017/04/25/chobani-sues-infowars-alex-jones-over-migrant-rapists-tuberculosis-claims/100875706/

• http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/business/article146943339.html

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Update:

• http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/alex-jones-claims-slept-150-women-age-16-article-1.3095514

Now apparently news outlets are saying that Alex Jones may have been in a sex scandal with 150 women. This is a case where We need a certain threshold acceptable in court where 150 women can confirm that this scandal is true. ^{— Unsigned, by: 130.86.96.188 / talk / contribs}

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We'll see how this all plays out. Could someone check Roger Stone's twitter and see if he's defending Alex? Not that correlation implies causation, of course — I'm just reminded of how Stone has a history of rushing to defend people who turn out to be guilty. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 10:02, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Alex Jones was not the only person writing Chobani's Allegations. https://mediamatters.org/blog/2017/04/26/it-wasnt-just-alex-jones-smears-against-chobani-were-also-driven-fake-news-and-alt-right/216175

Wow at what point does the Chobani issue becomes its own rational wiki page. 130.86.96.188 (talk) 16:24, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alex-jones-resolves-lawsuit-chobani-yogurt-issues-retraction-n761261

Alex Jones issues a retraction of the Chobani lawsuit. 73.15.47.45 (talk) 00:21, 18 June 2017 (UTC) http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/connecticut-nbcmegyn-kelly-alex-jones-interview-1202469317/ Well now an affiliate of NBC out in Connecticut said they are not airing the interview between Alex Jones and Megyn Kelly due to Alex Jones's staff spewing Sandy hook conspiracies.

Alex Jones on the next civil war

lex Jones: “The first shots of the second American civil war have already been fired,” and it will be “unstoppable until they’re burning down all the cities.” In a June 14 video posted to Infowars, Alex Jones said that the shooting of Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA) meant “the first shots of the second American civil war have already been fired.” Jones blamed “all these betas” in the mainstream media for advocating violence against Republicans “over and over again.” Jones noted that he has “studied history” and found that “war is actually run by betas” seeking government benefits; this “curse of the betas,” Jones said, is “unstoppable until they’re burning down all the cities and killing each other.” [Infowars, 6/14/17]

https://www.mediamatters.org/node/753806 FuzzyCatPotato of the Unpopular Pumpkins (talk/stalk) 23:00, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

White genocide

TODO:

https://www.facebook.com/WGBleedAlot/posts/705317929497728 (http://archive.is/q3R4S)

http://whitegirlbleedalot.com/new-on-with-realalexjones-via-skype-infowars/ (http://archive.is/1RKxv)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15qhjy_return-of-black-mob-violence-with-author-colin-flaherty-infowars-alex-jones-channel_news (deleted)

https://www.infowars.com/woman-receives-beating-because-shes-a-white-girl-in-the-hood/ (http://archive.is/eGpKb)

https://www.infowars.com/fears-new-birth-of-a-nation-film-could-incite-racial-attacks-against-whites/ (http://archive.is/EjJ9x)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x5TASKWnVY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z18rihMacA

https://youtu.be/DNv6JRSjdYU?t=234

https://www.google.com/search?q=infowars+white+girl+bleed+a+lot&oq=infowars+white+girl+bleed+a+lot&aqs=chrome..69i57.3688j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

https://www.amazon.com/White-Girl-Bleed-Lot-Violence-ebook/dp/B01E4W5OBY

Cømяade FυzzчCαтPøтαтø (talk/stalk) 00:23, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Google Trends and Google Results

• Trends: Alex Jones tied with Infowars, Paul Joseph Watson picking up.

• "Alex Jones": 11th result

• "Infowars": >20th result

• "Paul Joseph Watson": 5th result

Cømяade FυzzчCαтPøтαтø (talk/stalk) 00:26, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Real Alex Jones Quote

“”[My kids] are very proud of the comedy memes that I appear in; online I'm a #1 meme.

Is it time for a meme section? FU22YC47P07470 (talk/stalk) 02:14, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm actually starting to think we should have a separate fun page on the guy. For his memes. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 10:03, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Agreed.—チーズバーガー • めん  (talk • stalk) 19:05, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

"You see, 666 is a doubling of 33. And 33 is pi."--Alex Jones. This is an interesting Quote. It expresses two false statements in twelve words. i.e. twice 33 is not close to 666, and pi is nowhere near 33, even if one interpolates a badly needed decimal point. A words/False statement ratio of 6....wait.Ariel31459 (talk) 16:45, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Alexa Jones

FᴜᴢᴢʏCᴀᴛPᴏᴛᴀᴛᴏ, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 03:53, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Was gonna link to this video too. Brilliant. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 23:07, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

AJ: "I know [NASA has] created massive, thousands of different types of chimeras that are alien lifeforms on this earth now."

Read it and weep. From laughter. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 18:36, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

@FuzzyCatPotato Reverend Black Percy (talk) 00:29, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

It's a great article. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 02:54, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

the modern Mona Lisa

Fuzzy "Cat" Potato, Jr. (talk/stalk) 23:54, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Makes me think of all the beauty in the world *films windblown plastic bag* Reverend Black Percy (talk) 03:01, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Introducing AJ

...that clears things up. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 10:05, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

If they'd just stuck with bits from his non-strawmen, it'd be a good critique. Herr FüzzyCätPötätö (talk/stalk) 13:58, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Meta-crankery (i.e. Face/Off WAS A DOCUMENTARY)

'Meta-crankery', meaning: a crank video featuring on the talkpage of another crank (AJ). So far, so good. This time, however, it's a different crank (i.e. not AJ) who is cranking on about the titular crank. I'm a master of succinct clarity, I know.

Also, what's funny about the thumbnail: the moment I first looked at it, I thought for a split second "Huh, those two guys do kinda look alike". Well... Clickbait Spoiler alert: it's AJ on both pictures. No, really.

As in; the video thumbnail is clearly implying — via method of comparative analysis — that there may exist certain unsettling similarities between Alex Jones (on the one hand), and Alex Jones (on the other).

Question: Could this really be dismissed as mere coincidence!? (Let's ask David Icke Leibniz! ) Reverend Black Percy (talk) 18:54, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Maybe Alex Jones is really working for the New World Order, pretending to be a patriot?

Still is more sane than what he has said. --Rationalzombie94 (talk) 01:48, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Maybe Alex Jones is a smart business man because his estimated worth is 5 million USD.—チーズバーガー • めん  (talk • stalk) 01:56, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Alex Jones has a new website

Called News Wars—チーズバーガー • めん  (talk • stalk) 00:00, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Possible antisemitism

http://www.salon.com/2017/08/14/alex-jones-charlottesville-protesters-are-really-just-jewish-actors/ Fuzzy "Cat" Potato, Jr. (talk/stalk) 00:11, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

So you're gonna label Alex Jones as an anti-Semite over one video, even though there are other videos that contradict otherwise? How far do you guys reach? --Carl The Cuck 04:11, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

A fitting meme

I just want to share a image that nicely sums up Infowars:

Yeah, this is all you need to know.

The Rational Gamer, WonderKirby577_{Let's chat!} 00:26, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Our latest weapon against North Korea

As a proud environmemetalist, I always make sure to recycle. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 14:40, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Lead unfair

Lead is absolutely unfair to his victims. He could only be described as an accidental or unwitting "showman", "entertainer", "world best parodist", "performance artist", at best, unwittingly exploiting his talent, turning it into dark art. More likely he is just extremely dangerous and disgustingly malevolent self-promoter with only petty self-interest on his mind - never parodist, entertainer or showman--ʘ ౪ ʘ ^°°° 04:56, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

I agree. The YouTube comment section makes it clear: people take this guy seriously and not as a parody.—チーズバーガー • めん  (talk • stalk) 14:24, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

But wait Newsweek is now reporting that Alex Jones Supplements have lead in them

http://www.newsweek.com/alex-jones-infowars-supplements-tainted-lead-687019 ^{— Unsigned, by: 67.169.130.165 / talk}

Alex Jones does Halloween

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbRJt6iKCc8

Herr FuzzyKatzenPotato (talk/stalk) 00:27, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Alex Jones isn't butthurt about parodies

https://www.infowars.com/video-leftist-parody-backfires-pushes-gen-z-to-conservatism/ Herr FüzzyCätPötätö (talk/stalk) 05:25, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Why was this revision undone?

@Petey Plane Why did you make this edit? CowHouse (talk) 15:36, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

@CowHouse Sorry. I was trying to undo the removal of that section. Edit: Fixed. When i saw it, i thought i was undoing an erasure of that section. Petey Plane (talk) 19:28, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

@Petey Plane No problem, thanks for fixing it. CowHouse (talk) 04:54, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Steve Bannon: the big switch

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/951572438625718272 FU22YC47P07470 (talk/stalk) 01:28, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

It's knives out for everyone, all of the time, these days on the right. It's a war over which pundit can hold sway over the largest portion of the lowest common denominator. Petey Plane (talk) 04:24, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Why is this not on the page??

Alex Jones obviously drunk dressed as clown, and crashes his employees show!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75cG1uNBaQY Great quotes: "I'm not high on drugs, I'm high on freedom" "chop their balls off". ^{— Unsigned, by: 87.70.108.49 / talk / contribs}

Not missional. Who cares? Bongolian (talk) 17:12, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Moonlight madness

This is my first edit on RationalWiki outside my own user page, on which the paint has yet to dry.

Alexander Emerick Jones (1974–imminent FEMA takeover) is a nutritional supplement salesman who moonlights as a batshit crazy radio shock-jock and a legally certified self-proclaimed "performance artist".

If you care about writing, as I do, "moonlights" is not the right word here. Jones "daylights" as batshit crazy. I commented further on this on my user page, by way of introduction. Auntie Fra (talk) 21:39, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Alex Jones Is OFFICIALLY A CLASSICAL LIBERAL!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RiouBHofZrM LuodiWang (talk) 15:38, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Transphobia

https://www.infowars.com/origins-of-transgenderism-revealed/

“” Greg Reese reveals the origins of the transgender movement, meant to confuse sexuality, smear the lines between genders, and ultimately collapse society.

—チーズバーガー • めん  (talk • stalk) 03:16, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

I don't expect anything less from him. Synthetix (talk) 03:38, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

...aaaaand apparently Alex likes watching men getting fucked by trans women. But giving trans women human rights is apparently going too far. —ShapeshiftingLizard ~▲~ hear me roar ~▲~ 21:31, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Joe Rogan Interview

In the interview on the podcast AJ makes various claims from toxoplasma in brazil to human pig chimeras being grown in the 60s and that China is growing spider silk using Silkworms, all these claims have a basis of truth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasma_gondii#Risk_factors_for_human_infection https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/01/human-pig-hybrid-embryo-chimera-organs-health-science/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(genetics) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioethics

The problem is when you use true facts to bombard people with conspiracy stories or inaccurate terms like "NWO Globalist elite controlling everyone conspiracy", which JR agrees with or that "aborted babies are being harvested for organs in secret wings inside the hospitals". You rational people should look up more stuff :) ^{— Unsigned, by: 130.237.160.16 / talk / contribs}

the newest Joe Rogan Experiment dropped and Alex Jones was the guest along with some comedian named Tim Dillon. Someone should update that section. I wrote up notes on my live reactions but I think

(talk) 19:57, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Ban

Alex Jones has been banned from iTunes, Spotify, Youtube, and Facebook. LuodiWang (talk) 19:55, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Seems like due to this ban, and the many dead links that are now on this article, that some heavy editing is going to be required on this page. I don't know the proper procedure, but I'd be happy to remove all the dead YouTube links when I get home from work, but what would one use as a source for all the claims that are currently linking to removed YouTube links? Mikecol05 (talk) 16:48, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Now that I am home from work and available to make good on my offer, I am happy to make an effort at cleaning up these dead YouTube links if that's something that's recommended. Mikecol05 (talk) 00:07, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Trans porn

https://hillreporter.com/alex-jones-reveals-trans-porn-on-his-phone-on-camera-while-remaining-outspoken-against-transgender-rights-6403/amp LuodiWang (talk) 17:39, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

The plot thickens БaбyЛuigiOнФire🚓^(T|C) 17:43, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

great scoop

https://mobile.twitter.com/robrousseau/status/1059922075085881349 https://mobile.twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1059922656919728128

32℉uzzy; 0℃atPotato (talk/stalk) 13:51, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Excessive categories

I think some are redundant and/or not representative enough.

Here are the ones that I think we should remove, as crossed out.

— Godless Raven  talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹  17:42, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Note on study of atrazine's effects on frogs

This is just a heads up on the source declaring the results on the hermaphroditic properties found in frogs that have been exposed to Atrazine cannot be replicated. When you read the whole source you will find this little gem right at the end: "This research was conducted under the guidance and inspection of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. A.H. is employed by Syngenta which is the primary registrant of Atrazine. No other author has a financial interest in Syngenta." With funding from, you guessed it, Syngenta. There has been a not-so publicized conflict of interests between Syngenta and Hayes, the original author of the study of Atrazine's effects on frogs, in which the former paid for search engine ads for a period of time aimed to slander Hayes and his credibility. There have been other studies on Atrazine finding adverse side effects in fish, and mammals, including humans (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/05/100519131126.htm), (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1651-2227.2008.01207.x). Papers debunking the claims that Atrazine poses adverse side effects whatsoever have seemingly all been funded by Syngenta. If you can find some sources providing information from a study not funded by the corporation that makes money off of the chemical in question, be my guest, but so far I can't find any, and I'm not the only one who has trouble finding them either. This, combined with the slander campaign launched against various scientists (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/02/10/a-valuable-reputation), I think it's worth noting that Alex Jones, while not technically right, is sort of half-right that there are chemicals in the water turning the frogs, not gay, but hermaphroditic. Also, the argument that frogs and humans are different is uninformed as hell, they're invertebrates and have a history of being used in testing to solve human biological problems, they are surprisingly similar to humans genetically, and a simple search on why we dissect frogs will tell you this (https://www.livescience.com/6379-frogs-surprisingly-humans-genetically-speaking.html). Rats have a better efficacy rate (surprise, there were results of Atrazine negatively affecting lab rats as well), but there is precedence to the popular image of frogs being dissected in labs. ^{— Unsigned, by: 64.231.104.197 / talk}

Alex Jones is still full of shit. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 23:42, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

The big problem with this, instead of Alex Jones correctly noting the bullshit that Syngenta tried to pull, Alex Jones' main motif (as this clip shows) is to conspire that the government is concocting a "chemical warfare operation" to "encourage homosexuality" so that "people don't have children". The infamous clip where Alex Jones goes off on frogs first completely misuses a Wikipedia article on a "gay bomb" (scientists aren't immune to bizarre, completely stupid ideas, this was one of them, and it got the "Ig Nobel" it deserved) and then insinuates the *government* is the one putting chemicals in the water "to turn the frogs gay", instead of a bunch of corn farmers who want higher yield for their crops.

A lot of conspiracy theorists over-reduce the complexity of the word to simplistic good vs. evil motifs. Whereas, the real world is more complex. With atrazine, you have farmers, pesticide companies, environmentalists, and scientists all arguing things out. This argument still goes on today. Since the EPA technically is the one with the final say on atrazine, I suppose in a roundabout way "government putting chemicals in the water to turn the frogs gay" is, if you dial the fuzziness up and add a bunch of paranoia, kind of right. But if that's the case, why is Alex Jones supporting the Donald Trump administration, when they are actually relaxing regulations on the "gay frog water chemical" atrazine? PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 01:51, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Tazed in the Butt

This article is the only result on Duck Duck Go for "tazed in the butt by the Thought Police" (with quotes), and the top result on a certain search engine beginning with G. I would like to thank all the contributors who made this possible. Well done, guys! 82.46.167.158 (talk) 10:39, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

I wish I never met Trump

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/lwgr23/alex_jones_on_leaked_video_i_wish_i_never_met/ ^{— Unsigned, by: Sqrt-1 / talk / contribs}

Probably worth mentioning. Christopher (talk) 14:04, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

I had a go at it in the "shill" section. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 15:54, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

UFOs & Aliens

He says he believes that the Illuminati contacts Aliens through DMT. Is that enough to put him in UFOlogy^{— Unsigned, by: Jakester499 / talk / contribs} Requesting thread archival (why?) Plutocow (talk)

Coffee

Could be interesting to mention the Infowars shop selling coffee from the EZLN (i.e., a leftist, Indigenous, Latin American group) and advertising it as some kind of insane American patriot product. Postleninism (talk) 23:49, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

I just came here to mention this. I don't see anywhere obvious to insert it (maybe the lede where it mentions him being a supplement salesman) but it is pretty funny. Here's the store link, archived. Hilariously there's a clip of him trying to say they're "not communist they're just a commune". Chillpilled (talk) 16:55, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Alex Jones was caught watching trans porn, despite transphobic rants.

Should probably be added into the article somehow. — 𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭 ^{talk stalk} 14:18, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Alex Jones on Russian invasion of Ukraine

When it was still pending... Alex Jones tells Ukraine to welcome Russian invasion or George Soros will “cut your son’s balls off”. Psiram put a screenshot in their wiki article, which looked absurdly humorous. --ApooftGnegiol (talk) 13:49, 4 March 2022 (UTC)