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  • There is a certain anti-antidepressant banned user who keeps editing this page as a BoN. Revert their edits if you see them being made.

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Hey I fixed a mix up of medications, prozac was listed as the generic of zoloft and visa versa. — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs


I'm writing a paper making a case for severely inadequate research into antidepressants, particularly when it comes to long-term studies on overall outcomes and wellbeing. Please share relevant research...IF you can find any!

Sarcastic "Logic"[edit]

"This is very sound logic, and it explains why we didn't use water to extinguish flames until science could determine how that works, too." If I'm reading this to be sarcastic, which it probably is, it infers some pretty egregious claims about the nature of logic: 1. Comparing putting out a fire to handling depression. This is already a false equivalence, with obviously one side being vastly more complicated than the other. 2. It presumes a literal caveman's idea of science: if something is perceived to be common sense, do that thing. Yes, it might make sense that if you're suffering from an ailment, a cure for that would be nice, but that's a very rudimentary view of the issue. 3. It doesn't follow that SSRIs would be the "obvious" solution to the depression problem in this analogy. Extrapolating it would be more like "if there's a fire, toss any ol liquid on it, because a fire is more dangerous than whatever you could do to it" ignoring that tossing gas or oil on a fire would likely create a larger problem than said fire. This comparison is awful and seems to be kept in just to pay passing homage to the idea this site is supposed to be some skeptic's answer to Encyclopedia Drammatica at the expense of the quality of the article. I'd have deleted it myself if I wasn't sure my edit be reverted on the assumption of vandalism, so here you go with a formal critique. (talk) 21:56, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

I had a psychotic episode last night after taking double my dose by accident and this article helped me kind of stay "there". Even in my days of mental illness, mindfullness and rationality are helping me kind of keep it together

personally I hate taking the stuff, it numbs my mind and i feel like side effects are underreported (not because of conspiracy, but because patients dont realize their meds are causing it, which is why suicide ideation is a well-known side effect but akathisia, the shit im dealing with right now, is not), and I dont even have depression, ive been trying to taper for so long because i feel agitated on it, and i smoke more than a chimney just to not be. But it works for some people.Spoony (talk) 09:58, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

I would make a concerted effort to taper if I was you. I think SSRIs are one of those 'stopped-clock' moments for Scientology and now the far-right. It's unfortunate that they cloud the issues, if I didn't know any better I would be pro-SSRI just because those jerks aren't. But I've known too many people whose lives have been ruined on SSRIs and none that have been helped. Yeah, I know, anecdotal evidence - but from what I now know about 'scientific' evidence regarding SSRIs I'm far more apt to trust anecdotal evidence. The stuff they do in 'reputable' studies is shameful. They'll ask people on SSRIs to fill out questionnaires about the efficacy and the questions are loaded to solicit positive responses.
My methadone doctor forced SSRIs on me in order to stay on methadone, but I knew better than to take them so I have a box full of bottles of pills I refuse to take. At first I kept telling him they weren't working, hoping he would stop prescribing them, but he just kept upping the dosage instead! I was put on them because I kept complaining to the doc about all kinds of physical problems, but I never said I was depressed or had anxiety, he just decided I did because I was complaining about so much shit. I finally got diagnosed with a genetic disease that causes me to not be able to fully metabolize protein, and it explains all my issues to a 'T', even ones that have affected me since I was a kid, and my doc knows I have that disease now, but he never bothered re-evaluating the situation and still diligently writes out prescriptions for the SSRIs. I finally stopped trying to convince him to quit giving them to me because whenever I would resist I would have to sit through a half-hour lecture - like a one-man filibuster grinding me down until I stop saying I don't want them. The whole reason I'm on methadone in the first place is because it helps with my physical problems. If anybody SHOULD be depressed it's me, due to all the debilitating effects of my disease (I have to sleep 12 hours a day or I get migraines, I can only eat the same few foods every day or I get migraines, I'm extremely weak and have no stamina, and I get pain wherever a protein granuloma forms in my body). But despite all that I'm the most mentally resilient person I know. Nothing gets to me, I've never been depressed or had anxiety and here I am prescribed drugs for those conditions. Unfortunately now that the far-right has taken up the anti-SSRI crusade we'll probably never get this sorted out. FairDinkum (talk) 08:55, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


Page needs to be updated with science and not opinion.Neiltyson1fan (talk) 13:15, 12 April 2020 (UTC) Enough meta-analyses have been done to put the issue of antidepressants to restNeiltyson1fan (talk) 13:15, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

BoN's edit[edit]

I'm not qualified to talk about the subject. But I feel like it's a certain banned user. No, I don't have evidence, it's just a hunch. GeeJayKWhere all evil dwells Where every lie is true 22:10, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, it's Neil. Their contributions on WikipediaWikipedia as well as the fact they're blocked there for "block evasion" makes it clear. Plutocow (talk) 23:54, 2 March 2024 (UTC)