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Bongolian (talk) 21:06, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Autopatrolled[edit]
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As per @Dysklyver. Bongolian (talk) 21:41, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Preview Button[edit]
Please use the preview button. You made over 50 edits under 3 hours for an article.—(((CheeseburgerFace))) 
(talk • stalk) 13:07, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
- ok I will use the preview button more. I got in the habit of not using it because my computer shuts off randomly, but I can figure out a solution, thank youNeiltyson1fan (talk) 18:31, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
Note[edit]
@Neiltyson1fanAdd See also over References on the Incel page. Thank you.--HedvigsenSkreonk here 10:18, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Sysop[edit]
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Bongolian (talk) 02:44, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
- Ah cool, thanksNeiltyson1fan (talk) 05:33, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Enough with the Kenning, please.[edit]
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Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Somebody just wants to let you know you did something silly. |
Hi,
This is a friendly reminder to use the preview feature when editing, instead of clogging up the fossil record by taking 97+ edits to achieve what should have been accomplished in just 1 to 3. It makes it very difficult for others to contribute without losing their attempted changes to endless edit conflicts. --Goatspeed. All holidays matter🎄CircularR
asoning🎄Steal my ideas 01:55, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- ah kk thx, yea I need to use that button more Neiltyson1fan (talk) 02:17, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
"Antissemitism"[edit]
I'll make a chicken coop on the next few days since you're accusing me of hating my own people as a Chewbacca deffense. Making a strawman and ignoring/avoiding points is bad. Using ad balaculum and accusing people of being criminals because you lost a discussion is worse. 2804:214:8185:F284:1:2:CC97:CF6A (talk) 21:58, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- This IP is a ban evasion of IPs 2804:214:81DB:72DF:1:2:CCA7:2F2C, 2804:14c:5b72:856c:e4a5:71f4:2df5:57fb, and 2804:214:81de:615e:1:2:c299:18cc, and is threatening coop, despite 3 people blocking you before me, including CircularReasoning and Oxy. Go away. Other people concluded you were the users User:240 and User:AWALT, or associated with them, considering timing of posts, your prolific VPN usage, and how you reacted to your blocks on people's talk pages and blocked you before I did on that notion. you were also initially blocked by Oxy and Circ, not me, and blocked for bad faith talk page usage and edit warring. Neiltyson1fan (talk) 22:04, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not any of these posters nor I know who they are. I Just happen to have a dynamic IP, and I didn't evade, RW engine was incapable of ban me, blame the developer.I didn't know that too, I thought that the ban was lifted. The Coop Will proceed when my ban is over. I won't post before It.2804:214:81DB:72DF:1:2:CCA7:2F2C (talk) 00:44, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- I already said, you can CheckUser me if you want to. Now, believing that I'm someone else Just because we posted around the same time doesn't make sense. As far as we know that poster can be your false-flag/astroturf. 2804:214:81DB:72DF:1:2:CCA7:2F2C (talk) 00:53, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not any of these posters nor I know who they are. I Just happen to have a dynamic IP, and I didn't evade, RW engine was incapable of ban me, blame the developer.I didn't know that too, I thought that the ban was lifted. The Coop Will proceed when my ban is over. I won't post before It.2804:214:81DB:72DF:1:2:CCA7:2F2C (talk) 00:44, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- We don't have checkuser here; in fact, the community has overwhelmingly resolved not to implement it. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 01:31, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- Guys, stop feeding the troll already. Dunno why y'all keep engaging with bad-faith commenters like this. --Goatspeed. All holidays matter🎄CircularRasoning🎄Steal my ideas 01:46, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- I dunno, I don't really like having proxy abusers on my talk page, now at 4 (known)IPs and counting, so to get this over with go ahead and file whatever you were going to file, mr IP editor, so it can be dismissed and you can go about your day sooner. Neiltyson1fan (talk) 02:10, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- Guys, stop feeding the troll already. Dunno why y'all keep engaging with bad-faith commenters like this. --Goatspeed. All holidays matter🎄CircularR
- Alrighty, since this is getting funny, I guess I'll play with this troll a bit (not you Neilty, you're okay): I'd gladly dismiss it like the courts did the suit to give Pence the dictatorial power to override the will of voters and the Donald's many other absurd lawsuits. --Goatspeed. All holidays matter🎄CircularRasoning🎄Steal my ideas 02:13, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- Alrighty, since this is getting funny, I guess I'll play with this troll a bit (not you Neilty, you're okay): I'd gladly dismiss it like the courts did the suit to give Pence the dictatorial power to override the will of voters and the Donald's many other absurd lawsuits. --Goatspeed. All holidays matter🎄CircularR
Permaban for GeeJayK[edit]
Can you explain to me why you permabanned GeeJayK without any discussion with other sysops? Spud (talk) 17:13, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Discussion is in the section right above you, with the "antisemmitism" section, including at least one mod. In the future try reading relevant talk pages before launching on a typical wiki admin power trip. No one on the MMT page or anyone reviewing the block log a week ago or whatever questioned the block back when it was obvious to everyone he was the sock referenced above. Neiltyson1fan (talk) 09:28, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, I checked the (deleted) link in the block justification and that's not the same user. Could be a sock (they identify themselves as a sock, though not of GeeJayK specifically), but I'd like some evidence on that. This seems like some bullshit that might turn Modern Monetary Theory into new Israel/Palestine debate. Knight CommanderIn ServiceTo HerGoatness 17:41, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- I have unblocked GeeJayK because that user has clearly not done anything abusive or offensive. You cannot block other users just because they disagree with you or because you find then annoying. If you have any serious disagreements with other users in the future, please take your concerns to the All things in moderation page. If you unilaterally permaban anyone like that again, I will start Coop proceedings against you. Spud (talk) 05:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Spud What Knight Commander said, the reasoning is both on the talk page and block link. It's the same guy with the same spelling mistakes and broken english making account after account and using IP after IP. Those patrolling the MMT page knew of the issue. But I don't have any intentions to permaban anyone except the one user who many admins have banned before over and over. Neiltyson1fan (talk) 00:45, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- So, your "evidence" is misspelling? Believe or not, but only 5% of the world population speaks English as a first language. I have my account since 2018 (ie. older than yours) so I don't have to make another one. Indeed, if I was "trolling", like you suggested, don't you think this would be the first to go down the drain? I'll post by tomorrow on the MMT talkpage, but I'm done for now. Don't expect me to be polite with you anymore since you're not only incapable of saying sorry, but also admitting your blunders. Since you're apparently a newbie as a sysop, I won't press charges though. GeeJayK (talk) 01:08, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- no one else calls "edit wars", "edition wars", and you are the only person making these same spelling mistakes over and over, its apparent each time you join the page, if Spud wants to coop over it then you'll probably get blocked again given circ oxy and cosmic are all familiar with you Neiltyson1fan (talk) 01:11, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- eg, on MMT archive you call edit wars, "edition war" here , https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Modern_Monetary_Theory/Archive1 with the IP 2804:14C:5B72:856C:E4A5:71F4:2DF5:57FB, which is just one IP block evasion of yours, many of which are referenced right above here, here: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Neiltyson1fan#.22Antissemitism.22 Neiltyson1fan (talk) 01:14, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Permabanning GeeJayK again just in the hope that I'd start a Coop case against you was a very bad move. Be patient. Wait to see what other users say on the All things in moderation page first. But the way things are going, I think this is going to end with sanctions against both of you. Spud (talk) 02:32, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Except I didn't do anything wrong except maybe not knowing to use the right mod page once out of years of being here, I'm not participating in any coops over this btw despite what you are asserting about my intentions Neiltyson1fan (talk) 02:34, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- me ---> logged out, dunno if he emailed you or something but starting a coop over this would be a waste of everyones time when cosmic and circ's opiniion are right above this section Neiltyson1fan (talk) 02:37, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- You did something wrong by permabanning a user for a second time without yet having much support from the rest of the community. Since you said earlier that a Coop case against you would probably end in GeeJayK getting blocked, I assumed starting that Coop case was your intention. Look, you've started a discussion on the All things in moderation page now. The rest of the community now needs to decide what has to happen. Give it two weeks and don't permaban that user again in the meantime. Spud (talk) 07:19, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Fuck off my talk page for being so protective about a single user complaint and causing drama by making other mods suck up to you by not looking into it firstNeiltyson1fan (talk) 07:25, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- The whole debate is one section above, under "antisemmitism", and is now a total 180 just cuz a trustee gets involved. I know how wikis work, the top guys make all the final decisions, while all the underlings follow along in hopes of gifts later. I'm not waiting for anything. Fuck off my talk page. Neiltyson1fan (talk) 07:28, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Spent three hours going through proper procedures for a clear sock, as implicitly asked, and you threaten boomerang on a power trip cuz I used the place where you can yield power, typical wiki admin stuff, been around a few wikis, seen it dozens of timesNeiltyson1fan (talk) 07:55, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Here's whats gonna happen, ur gonna try to push for hard sanctions for questioning you authoritah about something literally no one cared about until you got involved. I'm not going to be in any coop (at all), maybe I'll get banned from at least one page due to your authoritah, and then you'll finally have a clear brazilian sock spew Friedmanesque garbage for years on a page I massively improved, all over being annoyed you had to respond to a user complaint, nice job.Neiltyson1fan (talk) 08:01, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Banning me from the page will indeed get me off the page cuz I have other websites I work on, banning that brazilian sock will do nothing as he'll do whatever he wants with socks, as he has for weeks with tepid pushback, on an outdated Mediawiki that needs fucking board meetings to do a 2 minute task to update the software. If for some crazy reason you decide to start a coop on something Circ explicitly said he wouldn't let happen, i'll ignore it while it's happening and while it's happening, will edit the follownig the page about mediawiki upgrades to demonstrate how people's time could be used better User:Neiltyson1fan/How RationalWiki can autoupdate after switching to secure version Neiltyson1fan (talk) 08:04, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- You did something wrong by permabanning a user for a second time without yet having much support from the rest of the community. Since you said earlier that a Coop case against you would probably end in GeeJayK getting blocked, I assumed starting that Coop case was your intention. Look, you've started a discussion on the All things in moderation page now. The rest of the community now needs to decide what has to happen. Give it two weeks and don't permaban that user again in the meantime. Spud (talk) 07:19, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Permabanning GeeJayK again just in the hope that I'd start a Coop case against you was a very bad move. Be patient. Wait to see what other users say on the All things in moderation page first. But the way things are going, I think this is going to end with sanctions against both of you. Spud (talk) 02:32, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- So, your "evidence" is misspelling? Believe or not, but only 5% of the world population speaks English as a first language. I have my account since 2018 (ie. older than yours) so I don't have to make another one. Indeed, if I was "trolling", like you suggested, don't you think this would be the first to go down the drain? I'll post by tomorrow on the MMT talkpage, but I'm done for now. Don't expect me to be polite with you anymore since you're not only incapable of saying sorry, but also admitting your blunders. Since you're apparently a newbie as a sysop, I won't press charges though. GeeJayK (talk) 01:08, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Spud What Knight Commander said, the reasoning is both on the talk page and block link. It's the same guy with the same spelling mistakes and broken english making account after account and using IP after IP. Those patrolling the MMT page knew of the issue. But I don't have any intentions to permaban anyone except the one user who many admins have banned before over and over. Neiltyson1fan (talk) 00:45, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- I have unblocked GeeJayK because that user has clearly not done anything abusive or offensive. You cannot block other users just because they disagree with you or because you find then annoying. If you have any serious disagreements with other users in the future, please take your concerns to the All things in moderation page. If you unilaterally permaban anyone like that again, I will start Coop proceedings against you. Spud (talk) 05:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Question[edit]
What is 'baleeted'? Anna Livia (talk) 10:54, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Just a funny way to say deleted. Old slang Neiltyson1fan (talk) 22:49, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Apparently this is what it's originally from, which I didn't know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07h0ksKx5sM Neiltyson1fan (talk) 22:50, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Award[edit]
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Tireless Worker Award | |
| We, the unseen Darwinist-Humanist Cabal of RationalWiki (there isn't one) hereby recognize Neiltyson1fan for helping revolutionize and reform our disciplinary system. |
--Goatspeed. All holidays matter🎄CircularRasoning🎄Steal my ideas 20:17, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks :) Neiltyson1fan (talk) 20:23, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
AfD[edit]
If you want to make a case for keeping the article here's a link to the AfD If you want to a keep throwing a tantrum and edit warring, well, that won't be tolerated. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 18:26, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Uh ok mr fancy pants but I got an award above and you were the one edit warring and insinuating violent people on incels.co weren't cranks Neiltyson1fan (talk) 18:27, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- You clearly didn't read the part where I stated there was some missional content, albeit a low amount. Also, congrats, I have the same award. But awards don't matter in this case, evidence does. Demonstrate it or don't, but I won't put up with your tantrums anymore. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 18:30, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
For your anon contributions[edit]
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For demonstrating exemplary goatery in the line of duty, TranslationForAll has awarded you a Goat Star. May you enjoy good health, and be long lived and prosperous in the long tradition of goatery. |
Thanks for the helping hand. TranslationForAll (talk) 20:03, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
A request[edit]
- Will you please either register an account, or start using the preview button? It is very annoying to have to constantly patrol dozens of your contributions. Thanks, —cosmikdebris talk stalk 17:31, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Unbanning my self-b& neiltyson1fan account would cause Comrade GC and 1-2 others to rally to get me banned in a year regardless of the quality of my contributions. As far as erratic writing, I have OCD and also write over the course of the day, sometimes returning to a passage 7 times over the course of 12 hours. Also my keyboard is broken and such and use click to type2600:8806:0:C2:CCA0:8C08:83D4:F917 (talk) 17:40, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- I wish mediawiki had draft saving, so that 6 hour drafts wouldn't be lost with a laptop battery running out. 2600:8806:0:C2:CCA0:8C08:83D4:F917 (talk) 17:51, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- I don't even know the point of live patrolling my stuff. The only times I got reverted in 5 years were by DerFluchtPlan and Kaurio after talk page discussion 2600:8806:0:C2:CCA0:8C08:83D4:F917 (talk) 17:56, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- that is patently false and thinking your edits are beyond reproach is reason enough to not autopatrol your edits AMassiveGay (talk) 18:13, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- They aren't beyond reproach I just specified 'live'2600:8806:0:C2:CCA0:8C08:83D4:F917 (talk) 18:19, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah I don't get the point of making massive frequent edits as an IP. Used to do that, but I realize it might be better to stick to one identity instead of a IP range covering my entire state. You could try to ask for a unblock, but I don't know your background so I'm not sure. TranslationForAll (talk) 18:15, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- It was a self-block2600:8806:0:C2:CCA0:8C08:83D4:F917 (talk) 18:17, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- I don't know the conditions since there is one person that requested a block, but had to agree to the condition to never edit this site and request an unblock again. TranslationForAll (talk) 18:18, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- oh yea there were no conditions on the self-block2600:8806:0:C2:CCA0:8C08:83D4:F917 (talk) 18:20, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- "But yes I am requesting permaban". TranslationForAll (talk) 18:24, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- oh yea there were no conditions on the self-block2600:8806:0:C2:CCA0:8C08:83D4:F917 (talk) 18:20, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- I don't know the conditions since there is one person that requested a block, but had to agree to the condition to never edit this site and request an unblock again. TranslationForAll (talk) 18:18, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- It was a self-block2600:8806:0:C2:CCA0:8C08:83D4:F917 (talk) 18:17, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Ppl r allowed to change mind on self-blocks. Eg Oxy did it a bunch. There's like witch hunting on RW I kinda like being IP. Id only re-register if grammargc and 1-2 others pulled back aggression on incel-related stuff or left tbh2600:8806:0:C2:1C69:2BB:6BAE:565A (talk) 18:29, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Although people did take my advice and others to de-mod him 2600:8806:0:C2:1C69:2BB:6BAE:565A (talk) 18:31, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Blocks are kinda pointless anyway beyond drama that certain people like a lot, this place doesn't even use checkuser, and if I used a VPN with preview button, avoiding incel topics, no one would know who it was editing anyway given RationalWiki lets the public edit 2600:8806:0:C2:1C69:2BB:6BAE:565A (talk) 18:36, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Only reason I blocked myself was just to avoid the dumb witchhunting stuff, which pretty much worked for the stuff I wanted to edit 2600:8806:0:C2:1C69:2BB:6BAE:565A (talk) 18:37, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, editing outside of mainspace seems to be like a wild west. TranslationForAll (talk) 18:40, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- No one really edits RW outside current events and 80% of the "big shots" just wiki lawyer, just look at their edit history lol. 2600:8806:0:C2:1C69:2BB:6BAE:565A (talk) 18:42, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Could you clarify on what you mean? I don't get the part about big shots wiki lawyering and I don't know who you are referring to. TranslationForAll (talk) 18:43, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Not you, I meant some people who've been here a while stopped editing and just spend all their time in saloon and deleting new contributions or blocking ("wikilawyering"). And those people, having been here a long time, have networked on discord etc as self-appointed janitors, mods etc. (all 4 people running as mods got elected) People have to beg the owner of RW to pay the bills on time, that any organisation exists at all is a feat in and of itself 2600:8806:0:C2:1C69:2BB:6BAE:565A (talk) 18:52, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- You threw a tantrum. I was pretty damn civil with you. Do you want to see me be aggressive? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 19:21, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- I don't really appreciate threats based on what amounts to 4 year old talk pages. The only reason I self-blocked was because the founder of incels.co came here to gin up people against me for removing links to his site. He knew it'd be easy to make people pick up pitchforks, and you and Kaurio were 2 that bit. 2600:8806:0:C2:1C69:2BB:6BAE:565A (talk) 19:25, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- EC a persecution complex and imagined vendettas certainly wont help in being welcomed into the fold or winning friends and influencing people. and if there were any kind witchhunt now or previously (there was not, now or previously), singling out specific people here and bad mouthing them is not avoiding past conflicts but revisiting them and giving those mentioned reason to come and defend themselves and just repeat old drama. let sleeping dogs lie, as they say. as it stands, not getting your way over disagreements article content is not any kind of witch hunt. throwing your toys out of the pram when things did not go your way. this is a collaborative project requiring concensus, that means conceding the point and moving on when that it goes against you. bitching over perceived sleights and how everyone is out to get you doesnt help your case. one need only to scroll up on this very page to examples petulance and unfounded accusations thrown at those who disagreed with you, and here now we see petulance and unfounded accusations. it does not look like any lessons were learned or any kind of return will not end with the same drama as before AMassiveGay (talk) 19:27, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- His name on here was JoesphR, he identified as the site owner in his talk page comments 2600:8806:0:C2:1C69:2BB:6BAE:565A (talk) 19:30, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Dude. The entire "feud" between us stems from me not liking the quality of an article you made and you having too much of a stick up your ass to put it in draftspace. Grow the fuck up. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 19:32, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- If you and the two other users who primarily wikilawyer stop deleting drafts or requesting rewrites based people overreacting to JoesphR 4 years ago I'll re-register, until then I don't see a reason to. 2600:8806:0:C2:1C69:2BB:6BAE:565A (talk) 19:36, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- I don't give a fuck if you reregister or not. I didn't wikilawyer. I don't give a fuck what JoesphR said. I don't even know who the fuck JoesphR is. You have a stupid vendetta against me and talked shit. I'm calling you out. Fuck off, reregister, or paint yourself purple, I do not fucking care. Stop talking shit though, that I care about. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 19:43, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- If you and the two other users who primarily wikilawyer stop deleting drafts or requesting rewrites based people overreacting to JoesphR 4 years ago I'll re-register, until then I don't see a reason to. 2600:8806:0:C2:1C69:2BB:6BAE:565A (talk) 19:36, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Dude. The entire "feud" between us stems from me not liking the quality of an article you made and you having too much of a stick up your ass to put it in draftspace. Grow the fuck up. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 19:32, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- His name on here was JoesphR, he identified as the site owner in his talk page comments 2600:8806:0:C2:1C69:2BB:6BAE:565A (talk) 19:30, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- EC a persecution complex and imagined vendettas certainly wont help in being welcomed into the fold or winning friends and influencing people. and if there were any kind witchhunt now or previously (there was not, now or previously), singling out specific people here and bad mouthing them is not avoiding past conflicts but revisiting them and giving those mentioned reason to come and defend themselves and just repeat old drama. let sleeping dogs lie, as they say. as it stands, not getting your way over disagreements article content is not any kind of witch hunt. throwing your toys out of the pram when things did not go your way. this is a collaborative project requiring concensus, that means conceding the point and moving on when that it goes against you. bitching over perceived sleights and how everyone is out to get you doesnt help your case. one need only to scroll up on this very page to examples petulance and unfounded accusations thrown at those who disagreed with you, and here now we see petulance and unfounded accusations. it does not look like any lessons were learned or any kind of return will not end with the same drama as before AMassiveGay (talk) 19:27, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- I don't really appreciate threats based on what amounts to 4 year old talk pages. The only reason I self-blocked was because the founder of incels.co came here to gin up people against me for removing links to his site. He knew it'd be easy to make people pick up pitchforks, and you and Kaurio were 2 that bit. 2600:8806:0:C2:1C69:2BB:6BAE:565A (talk) 19:25, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- You threw a tantrum. I was pretty damn civil with you. Do you want to see me be aggressive? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 19:21, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Not you, I meant some people who've been here a while stopped editing and just spend all their time in saloon and deleting new contributions or blocking ("wikilawyering"). And those people, having been here a long time, have networked on discord etc as self-appointed janitors, mods etc. (all 4 people running as mods got elected) People have to beg the owner of RW to pay the bills on time, that any organisation exists at all is a feat in and of itself 2600:8806:0:C2:1C69:2BB:6BAE:565A (talk) 18:52, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, editing outside of mainspace seems to be like a wild west. TranslationForAll (talk) 18:40, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Although people did take my advice and others to de-mod him 2600:8806:0:C2:1C69:2BB:6BAE:565A (talk) 18:31, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think of wikis as social media sites -shrug- I came here today to write about old Catholic writers and a few other banal stuff, and had fun doing it. Certain people just try to bring people down as a job, riff-raff2600:8806:0:C2:1C69:2BB:6BAE:565A (talk) 19:45, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Then stop engaging and walk away from the discussion. You can continue with the mainspace articles, I appreciate it, I try to maintain it too, but sometimes sudden things happen and it shouldn’t be made worse. TranslationForAll (talk) 19:48, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- I noticed that you have talk page access. Please login with your account if you want to continue discussing. TranslationForAll (talk) 19:51, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Neiltyson1fan "I don't think of wikis as social media sites" Pivot detected. I love how you literally never actually engage with the actual things I say and instead talk to an imaginary version of me that exists only in your deluded skull. And yeah, I see you're still a delusional egomaniac with a stick up his ass. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 19:52, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- @TranslationForAll He's not going to do that. He thinks I'm part of some conspiracy or another. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 19:54, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Neiltyson1fan "I don't think of wikis as social media sites" Pivot detected. I love how you literally never actually engage with the actual things I say and instead talk to an imaginary version of me that exists only in your deluded skull. And yeah, I see you're still a delusional egomaniac with a stick up his ass. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 19:52, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- I noticed that you have talk page access. Please login with your account if you want to continue discussing. TranslationForAll (talk) 19:51, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- EC i note also it is neiltyson reheating old drama, picking at scabs and complaining they are not healing, bitching about people and calling them out over stuff that happened years ago, stuff they did not need to bring up and wished to avoid but instead chose to make certain they would not avoid reigniting it. its always other people with some folk never them. AMassiveGay (talk) 20:13, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Then stop engaging and walk away from the discussion. You can continue with the mainspace articles, I appreciate it, I try to maintain it too, but sometimes sudden things happen and it shouldn’t be made worse. TranslationForAll (talk) 19:48, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Complaint[edit]
2600:8806:0:c2:4a7:9298:c46b:53dc is my IP, Thanks Neiltyson1fan (talk) 13:02, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- I have not engaged with this "subnet" in the manner you are describing. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 13:06, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, you reverted my edits on my own page. And in the above section you interact with my subnet 2600:8806:0:C2:::, knowing full well it's me. ISPs award IPV6 subnets by default, it's not like IPV4. Not playing your psychopathic games. Neiltyson1fan (talk) 13:08, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- I had no idea it was you. Don't act deluded. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 13:18, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, you reverted my edits on my own page. And in the above section you interact with my subnet 2600:8806:0:C2:::, knowing full well it's me. ISPs award IPV6 subnets by default, it's not like IPV4. Not playing your psychopathic games. Neiltyson1fan (talk) 13:08, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
CosmikDebris[edit]
It's not vandalism to edit ones own user page with links to legal revisions that existed for 5+ year on RW. If it is this wiki is a joke Thanks Neiltyson1fan (talk) 14:34, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Wiki edits are not a form of law. What the fuck is wrong with you? ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 14:36, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- It's also not against wiki rules to come back to edit after LANCBing aka a self-block. So banning the IP as a 'sock' was not accurate. Sock implies anon (not true) and skirting a non-self-blocked ban. Neiltyson1fan (talk) 14:47, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yawn. Stop creating drama where where is none. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 15:16, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Today, I edited 2 mainspace articles with no reversion, then continued an incel talk page debate. The only drama happened when people tried to revert userpage additions. If it was an honest mistake, it doesn't make sense to disallow the edits after the user shows up, and then pretend to ban him for 3 days without explanation on a wiki that doesn't have checkuser Neiltyson1fan (talk) 15:20, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Absolutely no one was having issues with my mainspace additions over the last few months. To disallow me from adding evidence of new allowed revisions, then one person accuse me of not editing a diverse amount of pages is pretty gross. Not necessarily directed at you, but mainly the sum of moderation today Neiltyson1fan (talk) 15:23, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Sneaking in after a permaban and editing under ever-changing random IP addresses doesn't entitle you to any benefits. And, if that's you making 1000 anonymous edits to the incel talk page, that whole discussion is dumb and you should really, really learn how to use the preview button. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 16:12, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Was not a generic permaban, it was a LANCB self-ban where I requested it to be indefinite on the account people were hounding me on. Oxy came back many times with tacit mod approval after a self-requested permaban LANB before mods abused and bullied her off this platform. Over time I've watched old wiki friends like her get hounded off this platform by teenage redditors and very confused individuals. This is also not "random IP adresses". IPV6 works in such a way that your IP address switches between many non-proxy IPs in a very large subnet without manual intervention. If your intention was to permaban me, you would have done that against wiki rules instead of "banning" me for 3 days against wiki rules. You aren't addressing what I've been talking about RE immature and abusive moderation, or owning up to the dismal reputation of RW moderation. There's people who contribute positively to RW and there's people who don't. I don't see any evidence of the popcorn wikilawyer crowd doing anything exept total toxicity disguised as noble moderatorship.2600:8806:0:C2:7CE8:755E:E4FD:B268 (talk) 16:25, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- This is a reminder to Neiltyson1fan to use the preview button, something he has a history of ignoring. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 16:35, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Was not a generic permaban, it was a LANCB self-ban where I requested it to be indefinite on the account people were hounding me on. Oxy came back many times with tacit mod approval after a self-requested permaban LANB before mods abused and bullied her off this platform. Over time I've watched old wiki friends like her get hounded off this platform by teenage redditors and very confused individuals. This is also not "random IP adresses". IPV6 works in such a way that your IP address switches between many non-proxy IPs in a very large subnet without manual intervention. If your intention was to permaban me, you would have done that against wiki rules instead of "banning" me for 3 days against wiki rules. You aren't addressing what I've been talking about RE immature and abusive moderation, or owning up to the dismal reputation of RW moderation. There's people who contribute positively to RW and there's people who don't. I don't see any evidence of the popcorn wikilawyer crowd doing anything exept total toxicity disguised as noble moderatorship.2600:8806:0:C2:7CE8:755E:E4FD:B268 (talk) 16:25, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Sneaking in after a permaban and editing under ever-changing random IP addresses doesn't entitle you to any benefits. And, if that's you making 1000 anonymous edits to the incel talk page, that whole discussion is dumb and you should really, really learn how to use the preview button. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 16:12, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Absolutely no one was having issues with my mainspace additions over the last few months. To disallow me from adding evidence of new allowed revisions, then one person accuse me of not editing a diverse amount of pages is pretty gross. Not necessarily directed at you, but mainly the sum of moderation today Neiltyson1fan (talk) 15:23, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Today, I edited 2 mainspace articles with no reversion, then continued an incel talk page debate. The only drama happened when people tried to revert userpage additions. If it was an honest mistake, it doesn't make sense to disallow the edits after the user shows up, and then pretend to ban him for 3 days without explanation on a wiki that doesn't have checkuser Neiltyson1fan (talk) 15:20, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yawn. Stop creating drama where where is none. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 15:16, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- It's also not against wiki rules to come back to edit after LANCBing aka a self-block. So banning the IP as a 'sock' was not accurate. Sock implies anon (not true) and skirting a non-self-blocked ban. Neiltyson1fan (talk) 14:47, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
My latest additions under my 2600:8806:0:C2::: IPV6 IPs[edit]
as my userpage is locked for some reason
- Work refusal (about 2/3rds of the page)
- Alfred Kinsey
Neiltyson1fan (talk) 13:24, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
User rights[edit]
I don't really know what the problem was, but I have restored your mop. If you don't want it you can give it back. Ariel31459 (talk) 21:28, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
ATIM[edit]
Hi. I want to let you know that there is an ATIM thread about you here: RationalWiki_talk:All_things_in_moderation#Neiltyson1fan LongStylus (talk) 17:24, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
as a courtesy..[edit]
Some editors hate to see an editor perform large numbers of enumerated edits in an article over a short period of time. Your latest series of edits on Neoliberalism total 29 in a little over an hour. Some of the edits are within a few seconds of one another. Now, if you used the 'Show Preview' button that sets between 'save changes' and 'show changes', you can examine the text as it will appear when you save your changes. It isn't extra trouble for you and it will calm some people down, I hope. We really do want amicable relations as much as possible. Thanks.Ariel31459 (talk) 04:10, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, I didn't see that as an ATIM case either. Maybe I can develop some sort of bot which hides the submit button so my OCD doesn't make me come back to something I feel I finished 3 minutes or seconds ago Neiltyson1fan (talk) 04:22, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- I will scale down my edits. I would like to add these are not short edits taken as a whole. When I do my once-every-two-weeks editing spreeds, it usually exceeds 10-20 thousand bytes added, as was the case today or yesterday, making myself the largest contributor of non-talk text during the 1-2 days I edit. Neiltyson1fan (talk) 04:26, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Which is not the reason for editing so much, but just pointing out it at some point amounts to a lot of content added while the popcorn crowd hangs out on talk and saloon. There are a many other writers who also add a lot to non-immediate-news articles, although, like Wikipedia, these tend to be new or transient writers. Neiltyson1fan (talk) 04:28, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Vandal bin[edit]
You've been put in the Vandal Bin until further notice. This means you can only edit once every 30 minutes. Please learn to make use of the "Show preview" button when editing pages, since your edits clog up the Special:RecentChanges page. -- Techpriest (talk) 16:13, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Just FYI vandal bin is for vandals, not someone who contributed the most to RW in two days, but i'll be more judicious with edits 2600:8806:0:C2:404A:E122:3387:E06B (talk) 16:23, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- No it is not. Vandal bin is for editors who don't understand the preview button or who feel the obligation to turn every page into a battleground. You have made 64 edits of the past 500 across the entire site to a single page (and that page is not a discussion page). Use the preview button and do not ban evade. -- Techpriest (talk) 16:25, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- it's not a ban you made nor were my edits vandalism as RW accepted them. You all really need to treat your writers better. Like I said years ago, you are a very bad moderator2600:8806:0:C2:404A:E122:3387:E06B (talk) 16:27, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- I explained what it does. If you think I am a bad moderator, feel free to take this conversation to ATIM. I should however note that there is already an open complaint there about your Recent Changes spam, so something tells me this wouldn't work out in your favor. -- Techpriest (talk) 16:32, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Surprise surprise that the person who commited the most non-reverted bytes to mainspace today also contributed the most edits, ie myself. Threatening the most prolific writers on any given day is not only bad moderatorship, but actively abusive to the wiki 2600:8806:0:C2:404A:E122:3387:E06B (talk) 16:34, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Take your complaints to ATIM on your main account. You were warned earlier today and on ATIM about not clogging up Recent Changes and using the preview button, this is a logical consequence. -- Techpriest (talk) 16:36, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- WTF is "clogging up recentchanges", that's called editing. The edits in no way disturb the ability to see other (mostly saloon bar gossip junk). Is a single por 5 additional line on the recentchanges screen, a spiritual affront to order? 2600:8806:0:C2:404A:E122:3387:E06B (talk) 16:38, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Take your complaints to ATIM on your main account. You were warned earlier today and on ATIM about not clogging up Recent Changes and using the preview button, this is a logical consequence. -- Techpriest (talk) 16:36, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Surprise surprise that the person who commited the most non-reverted bytes to mainspace today also contributed the most edits, ie myself. Threatening the most prolific writers on any given day is not only bad moderatorship, but actively abusive to the wiki 2600:8806:0:C2:404A:E122:3387:E06B (talk) 16:34, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- I explained what it does. If you think I am a bad moderator, feel free to take this conversation to ATIM. I should however note that there is already an open complaint there about your Recent Changes spam, so something tells me this wouldn't work out in your favor. -- Techpriest (talk) 16:32, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- it's not a ban you made nor were my edits vandalism as RW accepted them. You all really need to treat your writers better. Like I said years ago, you are a very bad moderator2600:8806:0:C2:404A:E122:3387:E06B (talk) 16:27, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- No it is not. Vandal bin is for editors who don't understand the preview button or who feel the obligation to turn every page into a battleground. You have made 64 edits of the past 500 across the entire site to a single page (and that page is not a discussion page). Use the preview button and do not ban evade. -- Techpriest (talk) 16:25, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Please make your edits somewhere else first.[edit]
I don't want to have to throw you in the bin again, but seriously. Out of all contributions recently made to the Bar (41), yours make up more than half (24) and the majority consist of tiny typo fixes. Please write your comments out in notepad, save them somewhere, then post them onto the bar once you're fully satisfied with them. This shit clogs up RC and page histories. For now it's a polite warning. -- Techpriest (talk) 21:42, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
A request[edit]
Can you respond to GC's accusation of you somewhat conspiring with spoony? If its true then I might consider either an IBAN with you or spoony or propose a 1 account restriction. HendrickTheGross (talk) 14:28, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- What is "conspiring" here?--2friedeggs (talk) 14:32, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- These comments sound suspicous
Give me evidence of all this and tell me who you are, if doing so on here is social suicide add me on Discord twofriedeggs#3485--2friedeggs (talk) 00:59, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
HendrickTheGross (talk) 14:37, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Sent a request, but imma stay out of it, just giving a heads up that i'm not the only (old) user who left because of him 2600:8806:0:C2:9C38:7B03:53F6:5A0C (talk) 01:00, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- Do you have a discord? I can DM you about the matter.--2friedeggs (talk) 14:39, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Inactive but I guess. HoundwardSmth#6950 HendrickTheGross (talk) 14:42, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- In my coop comment, I addressed that I had once accepted a request to comment on the matter from 2fried. That the only person defending GC in the coop is also in contact with GC on Discord is not a reason to bring that to people's talk pages. I did not ask anyone to start the current atim or coop, swear it Neiltyson1fan (talk) 14:41, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Also I have no idea who spoony is lol Neiltyson1fan (talk) 14:57, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- His previous username before he got renamed to 2friedeggs. HendrickTheGross (talk) 15:01, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- I see, anyway look if people wanna desysop 2fried or GC that's fine, but there'd have to be agreement first, on the coop, not my talk page lol Neiltyson1fan (talk) 15:03, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- His previous username before he got renamed to 2friedeggs. HendrickTheGross (talk) 15:01, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Do you have a discord? I can DM you about the matter.--2friedeggs (talk) 14:39, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
You're in the chicken coop.[edit]
A case has been made against you in the RationalWiki:Chicken coop. You may wish to respond. Bongolian (talk) 19:23, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Bye[edit]
https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Incel&action=history Kauri0.o (talk) 23:14, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Please[edit]
Don't take coop related matters to my talk page. When I got back and logged into my main account, I saw 29(!) notifications on my talk page. Of them, 19 were of discussions that should've been in the coop, which I thank @HendrickTheGross for. And some of them were the annoying typo fixes that RationalWiki_talk:All_things_in_moderation/Archive59#Neiltyson1fan was all about. Please. Don't spam me, thanks. --Andrew5 (talk) 23:56, 8 July 2022 (UTC)