Has anyone mentioned this yet?
I remember seeing bits from a documentary years back alleging that the guy who discovered the Titanic was able to prove that Noah's flood actually happened. I can't remember what it was called, but notably, said guy goes out of his way to explain that "the entire world" likely simply meant the world Noah knew about, which in this case did not go beyond the land immediately surrounding the Black Sea, which back then was a smaller landlocked lake.Skadooshbag (talk) 05:19, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
If you wonder where all the water went
- I like how they assume conventional planetary science can't answer seemingly impossible questions (by the way, those "difficulties" don't seem impossible to me unlike that the article is implying), not like those questions are stupid, like the rust one (Pluto's appearance is close to Io's and I didn't read anywhere that the surface is actually made of rust). Finally, that hydroplate theory has a ton of its own problems that I won't begin to dwell on. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario! 19:19, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
I am new here never wiki'd before. There were it seems floods; namely, due to global warming, glaciers melt, raising sea levels by tens of meters. The doggger banks, e.g. now the North Sea was once dry land, and inhabited. Likewise all of Manitoba used to be a fresh water lake: the glacier holding it all in melted, and it drained into the ocean, causing floods. I've no idea whether or where historical flooding should figure in this myth though, shocking but true, there is at least *some* truth to the various flooding myths found in many different cultures. Obviously the entire world didn't flood, but all the coastal areas -- which is where 90% of people live indeed flooded circa 10000-12000 years ago.
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- To respond to your point. Sure there have been loads of local floods around the world. It's a very frequent occurrence. There are also folk stories of floods around the world. These folk tales were probably inspired by the real floods. So that's really no great surprise.
- But, on quickly re-reading the article, I'm surprised to note that we don't actually make any reference to this. The existence of multiple flood myths is something which YEC's often refer to and so we probably should make some reference to it.--Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 10:22, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- Most people will be aware that 'flooding occurs' (especially after 'more rain than seems reasonable') and occasionally '(very) large flooding happens and will assume that the various 'global floods of the ancient world' will be based on real events. However the difference between 'the present' and 'the ancient world' is that we now have global information networks #and# agreed calendars that are used around the world so events can be arranged in a sequence. In 'the ancient world' communications networks were more limited and calendars were not synchronised - so it would not necessarily be possible to confirm that 'the great floods our grandparents were told about by their grandparents' were actually separate events at different times rather than a single event in which individual families/clans etc survived. So, reversing the story of the blind men and the elephant - each part of the story #is# correct - but they are fused into something bigger that did not actually happen. Anna Livia (talk) 11:11, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
My two cents
I wonder what will be worse: if taking today as real a Bronze Age history imagined by people who clearly did not know how large is the world, much less the shipbuilding capacities required to build something that realistically would be very different of the Biblical accounts in terms of size (not to mention those other technologies required), plus ignoring the Noah drunk part and other questions about divine omni*** and the like and adding PIDOOMA arguments (several thousand couples of animals embarked, the Ark having three decks...), simply because "the Book" says so, or those attempts to justify it by saying that "the remains of the Ark have been found, scientists are baffled after that discovery (PIDOOMA again)" or especially the Baraminology and the like thing. --Panzerfaust (talk) 13:54, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Where there no other boats?
A question occurs: did nobody else on the planet happen to have a boat? Like fishermen or merchants? I ask as it seems like god would have had to personally find and kill them if they did, just in case they accidentally survived the flood... which also makes me wonder why he didn't bother doing that with everybody else in the first place...
- @Cprobertson1 Congratulations on finding a plot hole even I didn't think of, and I spent a lot of time at one point pondering the plot holes of this whole story. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 14:02, 20 February 2018 (UTC)