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User talk:Oxyaena

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Duce

@DuceMoosolini You realized I stopped edit warring after the second reversion, right? And Raven has edit warred on that article as well, and now you're considering giving him his rights back. β€” Oxyaena Harass 19:58, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

2R might be strictly adhered to but your reversions shouldn't have happened in the first place and you should be well aware of this by now. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 20:02, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
I don't see why they shouldn't have happened, and why was I blocked in the first place if two reversions are permissible? @LeftyGreenMario β€” Oxyaena Harass 20:28, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
This is across multiple articles. Just take your nine hour block and try to earn some good faith for once--Hastur! (talk) 20:31, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Given your history of edit warring, I think you should always think twice before hitting revert (and consider the more cautious options like talk page or even a simple undo with an articulate edit summary) especially against someone like Godless Raven. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 20:33, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
I haven't edit warred in weeks. A single reversion isn't an edit war. And okay, I'll consider that. Raven goes out of his way to piss me off. β€” Oxyaena Harass 20:35, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps the block is warranted but its completely true GR has been taunting Oxy a couple times in the last couple days. It's like he's egging for a conflict. It's the very reason I'm quite hesitant we give him his rights back. ShabiDOO 20:48, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
[1][2][3] To be very clear, Oxy was just casually reverting my edits, without me ever addressing her whatsoever. She also did this to Hastur. So I am def not the problem here. β€” Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 20:53, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Actually, look at her talk page. A bunch of people complaining about her reverting. Focus your criticism on Oxy, not me. @Shabidoo β€” Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 20:55, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
It probably is not relevant to restoring his rights, since his sysop powers actually would have little to do with his ability to start shit with other users, but it does need to be addressed that he is still as prone to baiting people into a conflict as ever. Hastur is being entirely too favorable to him in that specific regard, and shabidoo is right that this at least should be discussed.-Flandres (talk) 20:58, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

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You never accept responsibility for your own actions, do you? β€” Oxyaena Harass 21:49, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
I would be over the moon GR, and the first to praise you, if you could be a valued contributor to the site without goading Oxy or other users. ShabiDOO 23:19, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Maybe don't take your saloon barfight over why Oxy thinks authoritarian leftism is better than neoliberalism to the mainspace. All I see is Oxy repeatedly removing anything anyone adds to the wiki that is critical of any form of socialism including the USSR, obvious racism by socialists, China, etc. very occasionally people back her on it but that's more by accident than anything else, yet Oxy carries on anyway and inevitably causes article disputes, not only with Raven but like half a dozen other users just in the last few months because she's unable to back down or disengage and refuses to listen to "libs" including me so this comment will probably be ignored too. β€” Z 06:04, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
I've already told you that I do not think that authoritarian "leftism" is better than neoliberalism, nor vice versa. I specifically said that looking at things in terms of "better" or "worse" is the wrong way to look at things. They're both bad, in their own separate ways. β€” Oxyaena Harass 06:28, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

On the subject of the protests

In the interest of not dragging an unrelated convo all over Talk:Karl Marx, let me just type out a quick response: I'm aware of this. The problem is that the violent subsection (note: the overwhelming majority is peaceful) gave the police the flimsy justification they needed to justify violence against the peaceful protestors. Similarly, it's become overwhelmingly clear to me that this specific subsection seemed to be mostly made up of white kids, and the subsequent connection of "what kinda group on the left makes white men who feel disenfranchised feel appealed to and make it not difficult for them to reframe this entire thing in a way that can conveniently skip the 'racism is kinda a big problem' angle so that they can justify looting some black guy's store" wasn't hard to make with CTH/Dirtbaggers. I can understand this not being clear in the talkpage comment (it was a bit rambly as a whole), but I just wanted to make it clear what I was trying to say. Sirius (dog star) 12:11, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Except that's wrong, and I`m not sure "looting" a giant corporate superstar like Target or Walmart is as bad as you make it out to be. Those "looted" goods were subsequently redistributed to the protesters and to those in need. β€” Oxyaena Harass 14:17, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
Please read again. I never said Target or Walmart. Those idiots went for local owned businesses, not giant corporate chains. Sirius (dog star) 15:42, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
It's also a smear that most of the "looters" were white, they weren't. A lot of the violence and looting was instigated, and done, by false flag police agents and far-right boogaloo Nazis. β€” Oxyaena Harass 17:13, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
The notion that any given person on the left who shows up to a protest is going to be nonviolent is either naive or an attempt at propaganda. You don't control who shows up and there are plenty of people on the left who have no qualms rioting. We just need to start self-policing and stop doing dumb shit like wasting our breath defending rioters--Hastur! (talk) 17:38, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
Basically what Hastur says. And to be fair, some people definetly did do what Hastur suggested. I recall seeing a couple of threads of some folks stopping these dumb kids and telling them to go back home instead of being a disaster tourist. Sirius (dog star) 18:59, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Proudhon

Perhaps rather than exhorting people to read Proudhon, you should write a page on Proudhon or on his What is Property? Bongolian (talk) 20:36, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

I'd like to see that.Ariel31459 (talk) 21:01, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

What the fuck

I made one single edit, not vandalism, made one reversion, not edit warring, and I get blocked. You're all a bunch of jackasses. @LeftyGreenMario @Spud @RWRW This is why I should have sysop, so fuckers like Gunther can't block me for no justifiable reason. β€” Oxyaena Harass 10:24, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

You shouldn't have sysop because of this. Notice how I didn't block you (because I pledged not to do that) and yet you got blocked by someone else for your behavior? β€” Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 10:30, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
"My behavior?" One fucking edit and I get blocked for nine hours, you shouldn't have sysop, you miserable piece of shit. β€” Oxyaena Harass 10:32, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Not to mention that you go out of your way to revert anything I do. See: [7][8][9][10][11][12] and so many more examples. You then refuse or ignore talk page comments and also use personal attacks against me. If anything, you should take this block to rethink your conduct towards me and others (considering how you went to Hastur's talk page to call him a "piece of shit" [13], for example). You called me an idiot several times and you also called Gunther a jackass for obviously punishing you for disruptive behavior. β€” Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 10:38, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Also, last time you got blocked it was by Duce. Are we all jackasses for not wanting you to shit all over the site? You already made people leave because of your behavior (see jaydogg for instance), but this time you don't have sysop to beat someone over the head with the mop. Take this as an opportunity to rethink things. β€” Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 10:40, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
A single reversion of your reversion of my edit wherein I removed your blatantly partisan horseshit. Disruptive behavior my ass, is expressing genuine frustration to genuinely frustrating people anathema now? Jaydogg was making genuinely shitty edits, and was also sharing screenshots of me on Reddit. Hastur and Gunther have been called out by other people for how they treat me, and they were talking shit about me having disabilities on the Discord. You're an asshole. β€” Oxyaena Harass 10:42, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Is expressing frustration with people an anathema now? Well, let's see how you treated jaydogg for one, when he expressed frustration: [14] That being said, what people do offsite is not relevant to the wiki, even if I agree that being ableist and transphobic is something we shouldn't platform here. But if we did, you got banned from the discord support server for drive by personal attacks and harassment. Should we count that against you? I never did (and in fact I didn't want you banned in the first place). β€” Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 10:47, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
"they were talking shit about me having disabilities on the Discord." Evidence? Gunther1987 (talk) 10:50, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Oxyaena, I've unblocked you. Gunther may not have liked your edit, but it was not vandalism. Spud (talk) 10:54, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Coop case

A case involving you has been raised at the Chicken Coop. Feel free to comment. β€” Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 19:19, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Raven, you need to take a break and seriously reflect on what you've done wrong. Circumspice. β€” Oxyaena Harass 19:29, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Les Claypool seems like a really cool guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flKK4BlhgVk

I rew-atched the Bill and Ted movies, Primus was in there. Holy cow, I heard that bass tone and was like "That's Les Claypool"

I wouldn't buy Bill and Ted 3, but defintely "be excellent to each other" ans "party on, dudes." ey Primus is funk, Rae Against the Machine is funk. I know you didn't ask for either, but, to beg the question, I'm sorry, what does it matter if they just slay?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOKn33-q4Ao 07:45, 5 September 2020 (UTC)~I got saddled wirh an ad when I checked this. Fuck that. Gol Sarnitt (talk) 07:52, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Funk Metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my6bfA14vMQ

I got that kid at work, he loves Funk Metal right now after I explaied that Primus is funk, RATM came up on one of his playlists, he jammed on it, then he caught me looking at him. He said "Their politics are trash, but the music slaps." I said "somewhere around 50% of that statement was true." He's a good kid, he's an old buddy's nephew and he's got Asperger's. He got blackpilled hard, mentalcell shit, he goes to the same high school I went to and it doesn't sound like things have changed. Grooving to a RATM song is huge progress, his uncle would be proud if he hadn't broke the kid's heart by being a dick to him on Facebook. He's maybe catching some PUA right now, but I mean the kid was absolutely devastated two weeks ago, calling my old buddy a scumbag and wishing him death. I also know my old buddy, he probably said a bunch of stupid shit to his nephew on Facebook because the kid got blackpilled. Now the kid is flying around, like literally occasionally running around, talking about confidence and positive thought, like he's wearing a pair of psychic heelies, which is... a little concerning, but seeing him happy enough to listen to a RATM song on his own, there's progress there. Gol Sarnitt (talk)

Sysop restored

Mod noticeboard vote ended 12 - 8, so your sysop rights are restored. The vote concluded that you'll be kept under a 3 month probation, with these rules:

  1. Oxyaena cannot give a block exceeding 3.14159 days to anyone who is not a spam account.
  2. Oxyaena cannot use the Vandal Bin on users with more than 30 edits.
  3. Oxyaena has an active obligation to deescalate a confrontation with another user, with the possible exception of when another user is clearly trying to provoke her through malicious action (e.g., intentionally misgendering her). Oxyaena must contact a moderator to resolve the situation if she feels she cannot resolve the conflict diplomatically. Note: This does not extend to talking about people who are not users; calling out shitheads IRL is what we do, and Oxy is one of our loudest callers out of shitheadery.

These rules must be kept here for the duration of your probation, and during that time a moderator can re-add sysoprevoke if the rules are broken.

Enjoy having your mop back. --RWRW (talk) 16:13, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Topic ban

As a result of this vote you have been topic banned from "reverting or making edits to articles related to far-left politics and ideology." Regards. --RWRW (talk) 18:27, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Raven

Please just try and walk away. It isn’t hard, just try please. I’ve said the same to Raven (though a little harsher). If you can avoid engaging Raven I’m sure everyone would appreciate it. Thanks. AceModerator 08:22, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

I'll try, Ace. I appreciate you being patient with me, I am trying. Thank you. β€” Oxyaena Harass 09:16, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
No problem. Just try keep it easy. AceModerator 10:06, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Note about moving pages

Before moving a new page to draft space, please check to see if the page has been marked as patrolled; if it hasn't, mark it as such before moving. Thanks β€”cosmikdebris talk stalk 20:44, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Tech status

You’ll never be one again. I knew you were lying about it. AceModerator 06:50, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Dysk made a mistake, I never checked anything. I don't even know how to for Christ's sake. β€” Oxyaena Harass 07:22, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been blocked, for 1 hour

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Your block time has been calculated using either RationalWiki's fibonacci sequence blocking policy or some random number of digits of pi, taking into account the nature of your transgression and your previous block record.

You will be unblocked automatically at around 20:26, 17 September 2020 (CDT). You won't able to make any edits until that time.

Kiko4564 (talk) 19:12, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Piss off Kiko. Sirius (dog star) 19:24, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Oxy, you've now been unblocked, but treat this as a warning. If you continue being rude to people like that again, you could be blocked again. Thank you. Kiko4564 (talk) 19:26, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Stop playing Wiki Cop, seriously. All it's doing is make people hate you. Sirius (dog star) 19:28, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Just for the record, this block was due to Oxy being rude to me on Discord. Kiko4564 (talk) 19:54, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Disciplinary measures for discord are at best tangentially relevant to the wiki. You can't block someone for being rude to you off site.-Flandres (talk) 20:03, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
On the former, I agree, I could have used better judgement, but I wasn't in a good mood after Oxy provoked me by telling me to "fuck off". I disagree on that, I believe that I can. However this block was an error on my part, and I'm sorry for wrongly blocking you Oxy. I will try and avoid making this kind of mistake again, even when provoked by other editors. Kiko4564 (talk) 20:12, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Here's what people mean but aren't saying: RW doesn't enforce rules of decorum like that. You're not a cop here. Your constant input on site management and the like is more than a little premature. Chill. Nutty Roux (talk) 13:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Given that you've replied to me, I think I'm within my rights to respond Nutty. In response to the points you raise: 1) I accept that, I misjudged, and impulsively made a bad decision. Sorry. Maybe I'm not the sort of editor who should be a sysop at this moment in time anyway, so me being promoted is no big deal, 2) alright I accept that I'm not a cop, and wasn't a cop even when I was a sysop, sorry about that, I misjudged, and made a mistake there, 3) OK then how about I tone it down a bit and avoid posting on site management boards so much, again I misjudged and made a mistake there, 4) alright I'll try and do that instead, thanks for your advice. Kiko4564 (talk) 14:18, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Something you said on Discord

Dude, I might not like or trust you however if you require mod assistance I’ll give you the same treatment as a mod as I would anyone else. Being a mod isnt being nice to people all the time - it’s about solving problems when asked. AceModerator 08:44, 18 September 2020 (UTC)