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Quote source[edit]
@Sqrt-1, since you know the source of the quote, you should add it to the quotation. Bongolian (talk) 03:37, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Crap[edit]
I started this article on Wikipedia, brought it here, and moved the article to InfoGalactic. This RationalWiki fork of the article has devolved into complete bullshit and if you want a breakdown on why I believe this, you can read about it here: User talk:JasonCarswell#Hello? You there? and on SaidIt.net in this post. ~ JasonCarswell (talk) 01:07, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- So, your page got kicked out of Wikipedia, critically revised to your disliking, and now your puff piece sits unrevised by anyone else on an alt-right outlet (Infogalactic) that few people other than perhaps Nazis pay attention to. Niiiiice. Bongolian (talk) 01:37, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
Rebutal[edit]
- I have decided to shift the debate of the page in question to the talk page of the page. Please answer here only.
- To your work on James Corbett - good stuff I guess. Obviously you put some effort in and believe you're doing good. I'll go over it and point out things along the way and you may choose to do with that what you will.
- Thank you
- The opening quote is cleverly loaded. I'm hoping you actually watched the documentary, because it's all verifiable, worrying, and he and others have been warning of all this long before COVID-1984 and HR:6666. "Literally" as in figuratively you can say anything, but actually if you want a better summary of everything you need to know about conspiracies then I recommend "How" and "Why Big Oil Conquered The World" by Corbett. Really, it's all there.
- I have watched the documentary. You didn’t say how the quote was loaded. Thank you, will look into them.
- Corbett is not an anarcho-capitalist. He's a voluntarist. There's no shortage of him declaring so.
- Not done by me, though he can say whatever about himself.
- I don't think he's been on RT for some time now. Boiling Frogs Post changed into NewsBud with a pay wall and Corbett didn't continue there after the rearrangement. A couple years ago there was a dramatic rift between Edmonds and Corbett when he called out some of her shit and she tried to counter smear only looking like a petty amateur. I always meant to go back and document that for my own IG article but it's sensationalist shit about almost nothing, other than Sibel making herself look bad then worse for a moment in time. That's the only "scandal" I know of that Corbett has been in.
- His appearances on them is still worth mentioning. Never heard of this ‘scandal’, thank you, will look into it.
- It's flat out FALSE that ANY his articles are locked behind a paywall. ALL of his work is free. 100%. He lives on donations and memberships to his discussion forum below his videos and articles on his site - all freely available. Back when this Corbett article was cited by Prop-Or-Not cited by the Washington Post as was covered in that YouTube video, he gifted me a free membership, perhaps for life since it hasn't expired. I use it on occasion.
- It isn’t, a lot of his articles require membership.
- Corbett is about un-brainwashing. It's clear you're writing not only from a biased and brainwashed state but you clearly know little about your subject.
- Wow! That went calm and respectful to an ironically biased rant real fast! Isn’t that what flat earthers think about themselves?
- I see some of my writing remains a bit, though awkwardly twisted in places. I also agree he's not often funny when he tries, but that's not his strong suit.
- Then he should stop doing it.
- ”Dangerous morons" would be a better description of most folks in positions of authority, not "conspiracy theorists" trying to end wars, suffering, exploitation, corruption, pollution, etc. to improve the lives of all of humanity, not just serve the ruling class. You can add that he's against Agenda 21 as well as the Carbon Tax Scam.
- I didn’t add that, but I find it fitting. Thank you, should add that he is against them too.
- ”He is your usual conspiracy theorist spreading the classic bullshit..." linking to bullshit. This is the classy bullshit expected on "Rational"Wiki. No substance, just smears. I'd be insulted if I didn't already expect it. I can read this kind of bullshit from any other mainstream media source except they won't even give him any airspace at all because they can't afford to accidentally have people even know about him because they might just look him up and wake the flock up. It's called dynamic silence when the media either ignores you completely or actively demonizes you regardless of truth so that you are no longer viable in the sheeple public's eye.
- The substance is found after the sentence, which is divided into different sections. Your very own statements comprise this alleged bullshit too, but it doesn’t matter.
- Corbett never said he believes Gates created the pandemic, though close enough as Gates certainly has a role to play in the well organized global LockStep lockdown (look up the LockStep documents) and the Event 201 which really happened.
- Thank you for clarifying. Will check.
- ”Despite the numerous scientific studies conducted that conclude..." and despite the numerous scientific studies that counter it. The establishment has us all intentionally "confused" in this manufactured crisis. You can pick any statistic and counter it with other statistics. As long as there is no singular truth then there is no debating it. Hypernormalization controls and supports all sides while keeping everyone fenced in within their sphere of control, meanwhile we're all forced to have blind faith in their privatized scientism rather than authentic open science that is universally verifiable.
- In the context of this debate, no, there is absolutely no study suggesting the opposite. Kindly cite your claims.
- I don't have time to nit-pick your pro-Gates stuff. Corbett did the research and shared it with citations on his freely OPEN not paywalled site. You can look at those yourself and try to refute them if you like. Clearly you're not into proper research, or you'd know that you can find "such pictures of Bill Gates" by doing research. While you're at it you might also check out some of the many pieces Corbett has done on the biases of "fact checkers".
- That’s the main point of the page, to disprove his videos, and instead of explaining how we are wrong in disproving it, you link to the exact same videos! Just because Corbett made a video on it doesn’t mean it is true.
- If Gates were serious about helping people in India he'd bring them sanitation and plumbing to save lives. He is a eugenicist always talking about population control - which is another myth. If our "great leaders" seriously wanted to help humanity they'd stop promoting disposable consumerism and actually support sustainable natural lifestyles within our means not dependent on chemicals, plastics, and third world slave-wage factory products for the middle class. The powers that be don't want independent thought or media so now that they've herded everyone onto YouTube, Facebook, etc they can just ban the fringe and keep the rest controlled and brainwashed. Unfortunately few people are going to ever read your lame article, or mine for that matter, certainly not enough to matter and not enough for us to live on. The difference is I'm trying to make the world a better place and your trying to smear it with shit. Be the asstroll that you are, but at least get good at it.
- He donates to SEVERAL different charities, not just vaccines. His biggest donation and investment is currently toilets, not vaccines! Here are more recent endeavours of the foundation.
- Climate Change
- https://youtu.be/ajst4ZNjrhM
- Impossible Foods (Vegetarian burgers)
- https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi_joaky6vqAhWHILcAHZSuAPAQwqsBMAx6BAgKEAk&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D-k-V3ESHcfA&usg=AOvVaw1inLJAse84pB6Z-2XjN1dT
- Milk https://www.gatesfoundation.org/Where-We-Work/China-Office/Tackling-Domestic-Challenges/Nutrition
- And several others... vaccines are not his main goal (while it may be major), he donates everywhere, all the time.
- His work in removing hunger.
- Awards received.
- https://www.gatesfoundation.org/Media-Center/Press-Releases/2011/10/Bill-Gates-Accepts-Hunger-Award
- I really hope he will be right 😶
- https://grist.org/food/6-ways-bill-and-melinda-gates-are-betting-the-world-will-improve-in-15-years/
- Moar stufff
- https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/bill-gates-edinburgh-super-crops-dfid/
- https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/jun/08/bill-gates-uk-world-hunger
- All I can say is, my alleged ‘lame’ article will definitely be read more than your... what was it again? Some intergalactic wiki?
- Gates harming people with vaccines extends faaar beyond what Corbett reported and what you tried to counter. You might want to check out these subs on SaidIt: VaccineSkepticism, Bill_Gates_is_Evil, Billionaires, Healthcare, Coronavirus, CorruptScience, just to name a few off the top of my head. That kind of content would be censored on corporatocracy sites like Wikipedia, Reddit, Facebook, etc. You can also find more in WikiSpooks' Vaccine articles and WikiSpooks in general.
- That’s what we are arguing against, he never harmed anyone with vaccines. But of course, if anyone proves this is false, he is a paid shill and an idiot. You still haven’t argued ANY proof against the statements you insist are false.
- The only person I find posting at those subs are you! Bill_gates_is_evil has only 2 posts! VaccineSkepticism and Corbett commenters are simply filled with your crap linking to Corbett bullshit.
- You can also find more at RationalWiki, this time with actual citations, which is much more updated and not filled with adults that still live in their mom’s basement.
- It's interesting that you take the time to be serious and detailed quoting the well-paid powers that be and their "official" narrative on “the case of mass psychogenic illness” incident when it only serves your purpose. Believing the government, any government, like the Chad government, is beyond naive and foolish, like the sheeple they "lead" and exploit.
- So you say that Bill Gates AND the governments of the ENTIRE WORLD are cooperating to put a New World Order? Um... ok. Do you really believe this or just mocking?
- Also, what about the numerous other studies I cited that also argued against this? You still haven’t offered anything of intellect.
- Commercial break: I took a moment to post this on https://saidit.net/s/CorbettCommenters/comments/5jm4/hit_job_on_james_corbett_what_were_they_thinking/
- Do you even have any arguments to say or just want to plaster my name everywhere on the internet? Really depressing at the state of your post, with literally 5 views (including one from me and the other from you)!
- ’Documentaries' doesn't cover documentaries. It only gripes about the Bill Gates one. There are many more. Look at the InfoGalactic article for more of the important ones. Even if you were to try to rip them apart you'd be giving him more exposure and some people would actually see them non-ironically.
- The section is under Bill Gates, I haven’t gotten around any other documentaries because I am not very political, or very involved in US. What I do know, however, is that many of his claims on GMOs and Bill Gates’ vaccines are false, because I am proficient at reading scientific documentation.
- Are you paid directly or indirectly by any Bill Gates' ventures? This RW Corbett article is skewed and heavily dwells on Gates too much when there is certainly no shortage of other Corbett content to pick apart. What is your agenda?
- Are you paid by James Corbett?
- Everything on RW is biased, my friend.
- It relies on Bill Gates, because if you go to his webshite, the very first image one might have his eyes on is the link to the Bill Gates documentary, duh.
- GMOs needs citations to back up the unfounded claims that Corbett things GMOs cause cancer. Also, protip: You'll want to tie in fertilizer (like Bayer-Monsanto's RoundUp a proven actual carcinogen) and chemical corporations for their engineered dependency relationship with GMOs. This article makes no mention that the European Union has severe restrictions on GMOs.
- Here, Corbett believes that GMOs cause cancer, and relies on a retracted study that was criticised by many other studies, but he insists.
- Can you cite the second claim? Can’t find any information on it, or is it just false and made up? Probably.
- The Union used to have restrictions, they are now cleared for research. Check the citations.
- ”He believes that Trump wants to establish some New World Order." This is ridiculous and false. The NWO has been around a lot longer than Trump and is an ever evolving process as the ruling class volley among themselves for power yet all generally agreeing with the status quo matrix of rigged systems all feeding their bank accounts.
- Thank you for the clarification. But you do agree that Trump wants a new world order, so it isn’t false.
- ”how every movie in existence is specially designed to spread propaganda and misinformation brainwashing the masses" False again on many fronts. He hasn't covered every movie in existence. There are a lot of shitty movies that don't do much at all. There are foreign movies that have few agendas. Making a movie without an agenda is making a movie without a point of view - like a documentary without a topic or an essay without a thesis. As far Hollywood goes, yes, most of them feature propaganda from exceptionally mild to in your face obvious. Many simply maintain the status quo. Despite no shortage of careers ripe for drama, there's certainly a monopoly and dominance of CIA, FBI, cops, prisons, lawyers, judges, politics, etc in media to perpetually remind you that "justice" exists and that we must always obey the "authorities" and their mafia-like monopoly on violence, and even if they are clown idiots in a comedy, their authority is never questioned. It's more prevalent than a weekly church sermon to remind you that God exists. Brainwashing propaganda to make everyone obey.
- You said the statement was false, and go down proving it right.
- So are you saying I should add a ‘nearly’ before ‘every’?
- ”Only believe the books on NWO I told you to read!" He never says anything remotely like that. He's always open to other views, never dictates, and is always saying stuff to the effect: "Don't just trust me, look it up for yourselves, and make up your own mind. Think for yourself."
- Thank you for your views. Kind of depressing that the majority of his viewers still believe the virus was man made.
- If we're allowed to ask questions about the officials and their official narrative, but not ask questions about the official "fact checkers" you seek answers from, is that really okay with you? These are limited hangouts at best. If you don't even know what a limited hangout is then you don't understand manipulation and how they are manipulating us all. There is a vast glossary of political, tradecraft (spycraft), and deep state jargon that the public is oblivious to.
- You are allowed to do so, if you think there is a problem with it, send an email, they don’t reply or make no corrections, revoke their IFCN license.
- But Corbett has done none of that, he just says that because some fact checking organisation got a grant from the foundation, every fact check in existence is totally wrong. A simple circumstantial ad hoc. But of course you never really did your own research into logical fallacies, eh?
- I can point you to truth-seekers who rant. James is not one of them. If he refutes people who attack him I'd say he's justified in countering those claims.
- I say he isn’t. After all, I am allowed to, in your very own words, ‘question’ him.
- 9/11. "Don't ask us how." Because you're not even going to bother looking into it. I'll tell you how: Anthrax. All the Democrats and the mainstream corporate media fell in line shortly after 9/11 to only spout the "official" narrative even though it makes little sense - because they were silenced by fear of the Anthrax. How are these politicians and media funded - the military industrial academic complex. War is profitable. If you can't question the very fundamental foundation of the global war of terror then you are living in a totalitarian state. But can you even realize it, and how would you ever know if you don't or won't or can't question?
- That sentence is a placeholder for now, I do not know a lot about the issue, and honestly, I don’t care. What I do care about is that James is dead wrong on Bill Gates, Climate Science and GMOs.
- Climate Change, because science is never corrupted? Blind faith in corporations pushing shitty products and services on you for maximum profit seems completely legit to me. /s Give me a fucking break. Scientism is worse than ever since COVID. One day everyone hates the government and the media, the next there's a scamdemic and everyone's believe their contradictory claims and laughable science. Again, if we can't question science then it's scientism. Proper science needs to be open and universally provable. Climate Change is necessary to the official bullshit so they can create the global Carbon Tax scam that will be profoundly unfair to the poor people and poor nations of the world. It's another angle at which totalitarianism is herding humanity into the cages of Agenda 21, which is curiously absent from this hit job article.
- Science is not a person or some cooperation of a company, it is a methodology and the very definition of logical reasoning. You can’t question science, because it is not something that can be questioned, but you can question what you may think is pseudoscience. Climate change has existed for years, much before even the world governments we know today.
- Thank you for bringing attention to agenda 21, will be added soon.
- The "Special guests and interviews" is more out of date than my InfoGalactic article. The "See also" section could have huge number of topic covered on TCR. "External links" is lame, since he's profoundly distanced himself from Boiling Frogs aka NewsBud, yes you've linked both to the same. If you wanted you could include a link to my InfoGalacic Corbett article, to the CorbettCommenters feed and discussions on Saidit, or any other number of Corbett-related sites - or even to his work on Global Research.
- It is not required in the page, this is not Wikipedia. Though you might be right in suggesting to update it. Thank you for your suggestion.
- Full disclosure: I did not look up any of your citations on your hatchet job, nor am I going to bother countering much of your biased crap. We could both bring mountains of evidence to this battle but both lose.
- That’s the problem, ask for evidence for a claim, and get called a shill. I never asked you for a grade, I asked you to make sure I wasn’t wrong, and who better to ask than one of James’ avowed fans?
- Everything on RW is biased, my friend, the only thing it is good at is giving sources, which you don’t seem very well at refuting or accepting.
- You have offered nothing of intellect in this rant. You offered no reason why all the sources in the article is wrong. You simply called ever source that doesn’t agree with you “brainwashed, the immature, and operatives, and just like assholes, bellybuttons”. You simply linked back to the ‘documentaries’ and pretend everything he has ever said is correct without realising that it is the very thing in question.
- How about this, give sources, and I will be more than interested in accepting it?The Sqrt-1 talk
I found this...[edit]
Of course he is a shill. He s a leftist, sudo-anarchist, who fully embraces the judeo communist agenda and philosophy. Jimmy, as I like to call him since 2010, when I first realized the above, and yes, I have met him informally when living in Japan myself, and I didn`t like what I was hearing (long story short, I ended up in a restaurant with a friend of mine who was working in tsukuba on nanotech research on radar and gps applications who knew his group.. northen Ibaraki Ken, a bit north from Hitachi I think it was..). Anyways, my point then and now, was that he never seems to stress on his beloved Russia, and even though he made videos slightly on the opposite trend, he always anyway lines up pro agenda. He is an RT little mignon and will be an agent of disinfo until the end. Compliments to the US-Brit-Israeli-Russian led Internet subversion and disinfo team that have created since 2003 the biggest selection of flavours of shills and trolls, Jimmy here being the intellectual pacifist nerdy looking and trustworthy goodhearted flavoured geek. Well, he isn`t.. good hearted. Never on his show you will hear the real Japan as we expats have lived and live it. Biases, ethnocentrism and so on (and by the way, with this current trend in Europe of migrants and cultural subversion, they well should keep on being ethnocentric and biased even though they might hurt good people as well, in the end, it is the only way to retain their identity, keep it on JAps!). He married a Jap, popped out two units, and now owes a lot to his host country so much that he is also on their payrol and would never do or say anything to jeopardize what he was given: a nice cushy job for the non-talented in a safe environment (he wasn`t sent to the front lines by his backers). I know a thing or two about the Fukushima event, even though I was lucky enough to leave the main island before the explosion, went back right after to check up on friends and foes and realized that, yes the country had already moved on not even 3 months after (June), as to be expected by japs and their government, but also found that the contract to run security systems at the plant had been given to an Israeli firm based in Dimona not even a few months before the `bomB` that I am quite sure was planted in the reactor shell itself by the new service hired that, amazingly for Japan and its high standards, was directing the operations at the reactors `remotely` from their base in Israel!! Analyzing data detected in Fukushima day by day and returning the revised info, not in its orinignal state, to the Japanese engineers in Daichi!!! Can u believe it? Jimmy never says anything on this and I am sure that he KNOWS everything I know, if not more. Ask him why the Japanese gov decided 6 to 10 months prior the incident that Tepco should have hired a foreign (Isreali) contractor for such a sensitive and vital part of the economy of their reactors (throughout the country). Ask him why the previous PM was replaced at that time (by the current shill Abe). Radiations have devastated, are and will be devastating the environment for the next 1000 years, everybody studying the environmental issues related to Uranium and Plutonium based reactors can tell u that. Just think about Chernobyl. And those are the ones we know of. Nope. Jimmy is pro the judeo-marxist Russian agenda that promotes racial integration in the west, the collapse of western cultures and all systems of government antithetic to the agenda; he is a fake egalitarian, anti eugenics, anti renewable energy sources (even though he wants you to believe that he is not), and anti `global warming movement` ..who isn`t at this point right?.. having been corrupted by Gore and the Gates of course the movement is now nothing more than a scarecrow for the illiterate and conspiracy theorist, just as Putin wanted (well, his backers wanted him to say and do so), Jimmy`s real employer, and his oligarchs backers who make billions by selling gas (and oil) to the world. He never says zip. What a good nerd.
https://americanloons.blogspot.com/2013/06/584-james-corbett.html?showComment=1522166396808#c2168316490112487085 — 𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭 talk stalk 11:44, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- The poor punctuation and grammar reminds me of Dana Durnford, it’s probably him, pretty sure... — 𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭 talk stalk 10:16, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
Large deletion[edit]
@Sqrt-1 You deleted a large part of this article, saying that it was being moved. It does not seem to have been moved. Bongolian (talk) 08:08, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Bongolian The content was shifted to the main article on Bill Gates. No need repeating it. — 𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭 talk stalk 08:49, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
This article is a joke[edit]
This article is written in barely coherent English and is plainly and painfully pushing an agenda, but without even trying to discredit specific claims. Why are your standards so low? You realize that, for all intents and purposes, this reads as masturbatory in nature, right? — Unsigned, by: 2600:1009:A021:DEDE:7ED8:DA75:B75E:8190 / talk / contribs