Talk:Kent Hovind

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Little detail on The Hovind "theory"[edit]

The article states that "According to [Hovind], a -300°C meteor on course for Earth fragmented;". Maybe the paragraph should also include the observation that this temperature is bellow absolute zero, so it's obviously another impossibility, and another chance for some more comments on Hovinds IQ. I'd edit it myself, but I'm new here and didn't want to just barge in and change things without asking. Rivendellyan (talk) 21:15, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello! If that is correct, then it's a great find. Also, props to you for talkpaging. You're free (and welcome) to try your way around editing, but people will always appreciate a good talk page notice before (greater) edits are made. Feel free to ask if you've lost your way on the site. All the best, Reverend Black Percy (talk) 22:32, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
The only source given is "Creation Seminars" or something along those lines so I can't check this, but if he actually said that then holy shit that's dumb. Not that I'd expect anything else from Hovind, but as a guy studying in the city of the great Heike Kamerlingh OnnesWikipedia's W.svg I almost take this as something of a personal insult.--JorisEnter (talk) 08:59, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, I think that these references are quite sloppy - especially given that all of lectures in the seminar are available on YT, so it would be nice to at least have references to which lecture each piece of Hovind BS was taken from.
As far as I can Google, it would seem that the silliness of the below absolute zero −300°C meteor is actually not true. While there is a reference to a "300° below zero ice meteor" in secondary sources, the actual origin is Hovind's Creation Seminar Lecture 6 (The Hovind Theory) which (at 38:05) makes it clear that he's talking about "−300° to −400° degrees Fahrenheit" (my emphasis), i.e. −184° to −240° Celsius (absolute zero = −273.15° Celsius or −459.67° Fahrenheit). Effin' 'muricans and their Fahrenheit, inches, pounds and other non-metrical scales... ;-) ScepticWombat (talk) 11:50, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
I got an edit conflict when I tried to post just now; turns out ScepticWombat had already checked it out too and replied at the same moment I did. My original post: Hovind slips out of the net on this one. I found the presentation where the claim is made. On the slide, he doesn't specify unit of temperature. But he states clearly (at 0:21), "minus three hundred Fahrenheit", or; about -184.4 degrees celsius. Which is probably a decent ballpark for the temperature of a meteor relatively far from its nearest star. Not minus 300 celsius. This guy doesn't need our help to put his own foot in his mouth. I'll make the corrections. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 11:54, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Sorry for the EC, Reverend. Btw, here's an entire playlist of Hovind's Creation Seminar crap, incl. subtitles and extra extended versions (gag...), so if anyone wants to beef up the citations, knock yourself out. ScepticWombat (talk) 12:58, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Nothing to apologize for, my good man! Even better, your post was clearly superior to mine. Regarding the EC, I was merely pointing out the minor novelty that we had both whipped up similar replies, having found sources separately, posting at the very same time... Regarding that link; Jesus fucking Christ! There's several in there that are like two hours long! "How to un-learn everything about the natural sciences"; just watch all those and really pay attention, and by the end of it, your previously coherent body of knowledge will be crawling with various random factoids. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 13:31, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Btw, the other vague, blind quotations from Creation Seminars (citation no. 77) seem to be from Lecture 5: The Dangers of Evolution (abortion & Satan + anti-vaxxing + eugenics/Nazism). Also, the creationist website I've cited here is quite useful as a shorthand guide to pinpoint in which lecture Kent Hovind deals with which topic. ScepticWombat (talk) 16:56, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

The new Mrs Hovind[edit]

According to this video, she apparently believes the world is at least 100,000 years old (see 5:26):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXrb3VbmN5Y

And she's a prolific anti-vaxxer:

https://www.google.it/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB696GB696&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=mary%20tocco%20vaccines

— Unsigned, by: 151.16.38.43 / talk / contribs -10:22, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Dear lord... Thankfully, if nothing else, they're way too old to have kids. (Unless...!) Reverend Black Percy (talk) 12:40, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

If Hovind wanted a doctoral degree from a creationist college that is fine but[edit]

Why a diploma mill? Yes I know Hovind's "dissertation" was on par with a middle school level of work and he might have not made it in an accredited college but someone who is not that smart can still pass college course work and earn an actual degree. He could have went to San Diego Christian College, The Master's University, Andrews University or what ever. It just boggles the mind knowing other creationists got actual degrees at the doctoral level in natural sciences when they hold very similar views to Hovind. Yes I know Hovind (probably) has half a brain (That is being nice) but he could have went with a real school.--Rationalzombie94 (talk) 15:00, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Carboj dating[edit]

I've been watching a few rebuttals of Kent Hovind, most of Kent's views on carbon dating dating have been easily rebutted, but I need help debunking (or explaining) these claims on carbon dating by Kent Hovind:

https://youtu.be/TVuVYnHRuig

What specifically bothers me is his claim at the very start, that scientists take multiple dates and discard any dates that go against their predictions. It's been really worrying me. Can someone help me? Reg321(talk)

Wife number three[edit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKc1HXuam9k 151.16.217.191 (talk) 11:27, 2 November 2018 (UTC)