Talk:Libs of TikTok

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Other topics to cover[edit]

  • LoTT's role in fomenting the harassment and threats against California senator Scott WienerWikipedia.
  • Florida governor Ron DeSantis crediting LoTT's anti-LGBT fearmongering as the inspiration for his infamous "Don't Say Gay" bill and later stating that he offered to let her stay in the guesthouse of his taxpayer-funded mansion.
  • This article by Ron Kampeas from the Jewish Telegraph Agency and this one by Andrew Silow-Carrrol of the Pittsburgh Jewish Chronicle. Both place LoTT's rise to fame within the context of a reported increase in far-right activity among Orthodox Jewish – particularly Haredi – communities over the past decade. The following observation reported in Kampeas's article seemingly illuminates the cultural factors that may have been at play in the strong Orthodox reaction to LoTT's unmasking: "Elchanan Poupko, a Modern Orthodox rabbi who is a frequent poster on Twitter, said that there remains a degree of stigma associated with posting on social media among haredi Orthodox Jews, who historically have been discouraged by their leaders from using social media and even smartphones. It's all right to engage, but it’s better if it's done anonymously, he said, which may be one reason that Raichik and her supporters have lashed out at The Washington Post for revealing her identity." Also this observation about how Orthodox women are more active in online spaces than Orthodox men due to religious tenets: "Poupko explained that any restrictions on women engaging on social media are less severe than for men, a function of the belief that women are better equipped than men to withstand temptation. 'It’s more okay for a woman to see immodesty' on social media, he said." This is something that would have to be covered carefully, though, since it's easy to fall into the trap of reifying anti-Semitic myths about Jewish conspiracies.
  • Someone did some digging (it's in one of the sources in the article) and found that her apparent grandparents on one side were both Holocaust survivors. This may be possible to cover without mentioning the intermediate generation, who, unlike LoTT and her apparent grandfather, does not have a Wikipedia article. Nope Rocket (talk) 23:43, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
Much appreciated for the resources! --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 01:01, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
This is one of the rare occasions where I'm fine having an article on Twitter bullshit. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 02:25, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
Let me give a kudos to the creators of this article, too. —cosmikdebris talk stalk 02:45, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
I wish that her in-article biography was more than a single sentence. I haven't been able to pin down her age, not even vaguely like "born c. mid-1990s." (She isn't any of the Chaya Raichiks on the California Birth IndexWikipedia for any other genealogy nerds. I suspect she was born in New York state, where her apparent parents married.). One thing I've learned in researching this article is that the Chabad movement is evangelist. Its adherents often seem to move around in the fashion of Christian missionaries. LoTT's apparent relatives are scattered across the U.S. Nope Rocket (talk) 20:15, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
Yes, Chabad believes they can bring Heaven-on-Earth closer by bringing more Jews into Judaism (especially Haredi Judaism) and more gentiles into Noahidism. As regards LoTT, I think revealing her faith was in fact related to her politics, and people would perhaps see this much more clearly if she was a conservative Christian instead. Haredi groups like Chabad are the closest thing to fundamentalism that Judaism has, and fearmongering about modern stuff is common (it's even remarkable that some like Raichik are beginning to embrace technology more even if it's just to spread their ideology). As far as RW mission goes the link is quite notable. As a personal observation of mine, Orthodox communities appear to be (and Raichik is one data point here) tracking more closely with conservative Christians on certain social issues in recent years whereas before they (at least rabbis) were previously much more likely to differ in some ways. Chillpilled (talk) 13:40, 12 March 2023 (UTC)