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Egalitarian Utopias[edit]

You can't stop me dreaming that one day... Scherben (talk) 19:53, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Re-distribute wealth equally worldwide[edit]

When I plant the seed (of a new idea) then God gives the increase, so the idea begins as a tiny seed but grows until it's worldwide (although if someone somewhere back in time has suggested it I'll be happy to hear about them:). I doubt if many people ever said we ought to re-distribute wealth. Unequal wealth should not exist because it's slavery of the masses to make a few people rich, & that stops progress. Stupid capitalists think that by TEACHING people to be evil (capitalists) they'll still somehow be good! Look at the crowns & jewels in countries like UK. Those jewels were stolen in the first place over the centuries, then it is still being stolen because there is still poverty & unequal wealth. Capitalism has always existed because slavery has always existed, but with different names: colonialism, imperialism, mercantilism, etc. The wage is the cause of all the world's problems, if only someone would tell USA & UK about that. It forces every person to BUY & SELL something every day or starve. When a big family has only one wage earner & he/she becomes too sick to work or dies, the family will starve. After natural disasters, the people won't have fields growing food until they can get seeds, plant seeds, wait for seeds to grow, then harvest, etc. All people should have a guaranteed income. All people should OWN all things on earth to end poverty, but USA has been, & still is, forcing all attempts of a Perfect system (Socialism/communism) to fail ("Rogue State" Wm Blum shows it best, & "When Corporations Rule The World" David Korten, & Third World Traveler has many book excerpts). If we TEACH people worldwide to do things right, then they'll do things right, & the snowball effect will soon force every person to do things right. How could Perfection possibly be imperfect?! If anyone says "What if no one will work & the human race dies," I say GOOD! They deserve it, I don't care, even if I starve, because I know that won't happen because Perfection will be perfect. And the system we now have (wage-slavery) is doing that now, killing the whole human race, so stop being stupid, people. Klop789 (talk) 03:27, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Look at multi-national corporations to see they cause world poverty by moving to poor countries where they can get away with paying extremely low wages [& kill lots of people, including the rich!) that the employee-slaves can NOT live on, like Disney in Haiti, & Wal-Mart! (see TWT). Klop789 (talk) 03:31, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Horseshoe theory?[edit]

Denial that poverty exists in the First World is also found among Maoist-Third Worldists and Leading Light Communists as well as the far right. Vlasyx7 (talk) 03:31, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Destroying the page to save it?[edit]

User:Nerd - by all means create an un-referenced section which just contains definitions of absolute and relative poverty, which I can then add references to. But kindly don't delete the entire page to make it just that. Can I ask why you're trying to do this?--MAI742 (talk) 04:05, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

@MAI742 I'm sorry but much of what you wrote contains nothing more than bashing a certain group of people you are critical of. This article is about Poverty. Don't mention something if it does not pertain to Poverty. If it is interesting but only tangentially related, add a concise footnote. Frankly, I would rather see a page that is short and incomplete rather than a long one that contains little relevant information. Nerd (talk) 04:13, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
If you find my assessment unconvincing, let David Gerard know. He is a good one at trimming articles. Nerd (talk) 04:15, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
@Nerd I also desire concision. But what in your opinion defines relevance, and what would the sections and content of a "complete" and referenced page on "poverty" be? --MAI742 (talk) 05:43, 13 January 2018 (UTC)