Talk:World War II

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Is all of this really relevant?[edit]

We are not "history wiki".--Bob"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that." 09:23, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

The only thing that is relevant is the bit on Pearl Harbour, and that already has its own article. PowderSmokeAndLeather (talk) 16:07, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
by all means try to delete it! I doubt anyone will agree with you though. Fowler (talk) 13:23, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Updating World War Two[edit]

I have been reading this page, and it seems some information needs to be updated with newer findings. If I can, I would like to update The Eastern front section with some stuff from David Glantz and Johnathan House Tanker One (talk) 03:10, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Please do! I just gave this article a huge facelift about a month ago, but I know it still needs a lot more TLC. I’m just a little burned out on WWII stuff for now. Pizza SLICE.gifDuceMoosoliniYour friendly RW dictator moderator 18:35, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Has anyone watched Das Boot?[edit]

Das Boot is is not just the greatest war-film ever made; it’s a cinematic marvel.

LeucippusSalva veritate 11:58, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

I'd say it's the third best war-film ever made, after The Human Condition TrilogyWikipedia and Lawrece of Arabia. Das Boot is indeed amazing. I heard something about a Netflix remake, but I don't think I'll watch it anytime soon. Amazing that the same guy that directed Troy and a few other mediocre movies made what is perhaps the best movie from the 80s. I think it's also the only WWII movie I've ever seen that I somehow supported the Germans, maybe because most of the characters showed their contempt for the Nazi ideology. GeeJayK (talk) 13:24, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
I haven’t watched “Lawrence” for a long time, and it never struck to me, way-back-then, as one of the Great War films (perchance a reviewing of the film will change my mind …). On the other hand, I am very grateful for your recommending “The Human Condition”, a film which I’d never seen nor heard of before; a quick glass of Wikipedia and IMDb has evinced in me a strong interest in this series.
With regards to the director of “Das Boot”, again, you have illumed to me facts I was unaware of. Indeed, it is “amazing” that a director could go from the crest of Das Boots, to the trough of Troy and a splattering of trite Hollywood cashcows. True, one of the reasons the crew of the titular U-boat (viz. barring the young Nazi “number one”) are compelling and deeply sympathetic is their overt contempt for Nazism and its systematic poisoning of their lives. For instance, in the clip I embedded above, the Submarine commander sarcastically orders “Number one” to play the Tipperary song: “What this situation is missing is music. I hope this [the Tipperary son] doesn’t conflict with your National Socialist world view number one‽” I think Siskel and Ebert in their glowing review summed it up succinctly: “Das Boot perfectly captures the ‘War is Hell’ saying, for no other area of combat could be so perfectly described as Hellish as that of the U-Boat. Life on the U-Boats was literally Hell on earth.” The fact that they actually shot some of these scenes on a replica U-Boats adds bucket loads to the immersion. That scene in the above clip of the men perilously stumbling along the top of the U-Boat, knowing that with one false step they’ll be a couple of hundred feet below, greeted by the cold merciless-sea. LeucippusSalva veritate 20:02, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Love that movie and love the music on it. It fits so perfectly for when the chief engineer fixed the U-boat to rise from the bottom of the sea in the face of almost certain doom and of course the sad ending. I have the directors cut on Superbit DVD but have never gotten a chance to see the much longer miniseries which from what I've read adds more character development. Nonstopmaximum (talk) 00:30, 14 September 2021 (UTC)


Possible Edits[edit]

The last few paragraphs have no citations whatsoever for the information they presented. Does anyone know if these citations can be found? Additionally, should the Revision section include common myths about the war (uber mechanized warfare of the German army, the many myths about Russia singlehandedly winning the war when the reality is without lend lease they probably would've collapsed, the Battle of Britain and Dunkirk myths, French cowardice meme.) Any thoughts? I love WWII and I have the perfect books to cite this information with if required!--96.35.60.159 (talk) 22:42, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Perhaps you could add citations? I love WW2 as well but don't have the knowledge to do it myself. Cite the books!--2friedeggs (talk) 23:30, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Sure thing! If I get free time, I'll consider this an offer to get started and I'll try to find citations. I have a couple of ideas on where to start, but until then, I'll probably start with the common myths I can address immediately.--96.35.60.159 (talk) 00:12, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Kharkhov or Kharkov?[edit]

Is there a reason for the spelling of Kharkov as Kharkhov? Even the linked, cited source at footnote 339 does not use the Kharkhov spelling. Thanks. Werter20 (talk) 02:34, 17 November 2022 (UTC)