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I've just had BSOD* on my desktop machine & have had to fire up this awful VISTA Laptop. - Machine. Main machine's still not go! Bugger Bugger Damn!!!!! SusanG  ContribsTalk 12:05, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
*BSOD = Blue Screen Of Death; A Microsoft FEATURE that occurs at random intervals - but usually when least convenient. SusanG  ContribsTalk

I hate those blue bastards. You don't like Vista? <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 12:10, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
I used to know a hack where you could customise the BSOD to any of the basic DOS colours. I can look it up if you think it might help. Jollyfish.gifGenghisRationalWiki GOLD member 12:14, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
Hah! Still sitting there - hour glass cursor! Jellyfish - I started on Teletype - thought MSDOS was a bit too much - as for Windows! I like Linux but can't find a driver for my modem thing (I could then use my other machine) It's not the Vista so much as this laptop, I keep brushing the cursor pad or whatever it's called while I'm typing & sending the cursor all over. still: BUGGER SusanG  ContribsTalk 12:20, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
Now doing full scan - at least the hourglass has gone (had to switch off @ mains to regain some form of control) I'll just leave the Microsofty* thing to its own devices for a while. SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:26, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

*Microsofty: Word used to express extreme disgust without using obscenity. SusanG  ContribsTalk

Very important[edit]

I just wanted you to know Blue Shropshire is very tasty. And now you know. --Kels 14:16, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

Most cheese is tasty, blue cheese is generally very tasty. SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:22, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
I'm not fond of the really soft cheeses, like brie and so forth. But blues are quite nice. I'd rather have a nice firm cheese, old or smoked, so it's got a nice strong flavour. Although milder stuff like Cheshire are lovely too. Needless to say, I had a chance to get to the cheese shop yesterday. =3 --Kels 14:30, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
Bah. A pox on all cheeses, says I. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 14:37, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
Jealous! I've been warned off cheese of all sorts & lots of other things 'cause my meds reduce my immune response (diet sheet with more 'NO's than 'YES's). It'll be about 3 months 'til I taste Stilton again! SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:39, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
I mourn for you. =( — Unsigned, by: Kels / talk / contribs
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Unfortunately Blue Shropshire is made in Leicestershire. However, that doesn't stop our local Shropshire cheesemakers making Cheshire. I was pleased to find Mrs. Appleby's (prize-winning) Cheshire in a cheese shop in Healdsburg, California last time I was there. Also a local dairy makes Blue Cheshire which you might also like to try. I am fortunate in living close enough to visit the Nantwich International Cheese show each year which always has something tasty. Susan, I trust that you only use unpasteurised Blue Stilton? If you like tasty cheeses Kels, do try some of the extra aged (48 months) Dutch cheeses. Jollyfish.gifGenghisRationalWiki GOLD member 15:47, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
The shop I go to (there's two on the same block) generally has the 2 year, 5 year and ancient goudas, as well as a variety of ages of Beemster, Raclette and a number of the British cheeses. They've got a pretty fair variety from all over, really. --Kels 15:51, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

Bohdan 85 25 151 22[edit]

He was waving librul deceet all over his page by claiming he was not a sysop. Plus, he likes it. Lyra § talk 14:57, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

Sadly, I have to ask you this...[edit]

I'm very grateful for the sudden return of my dark powerz, but could you possibly make me a regular user again? I promise to be good. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 11:56, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Done. SusanG  ContribsTalk 12:00, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
Thanks! I could get used to this :) <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 12:01, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
What's with 85's inferiority complex, eh? Lyra § talk 12:02, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
We Jellyfish disapprove of this speculation. And we might also forget to update our pledge for a little while... <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 12:05, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
Jellyfish are pretty low on the evolutionary tree. SusanG  ContribsTalk 12:11, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
Fiddlesticks! <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 12:14, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
Bah! Especially smurple jellyfish. Lyra § talk 12:16, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
It takes a Pacific Northewest Arboreal Octopus to get up the tree. Jollyfish.gifGenghisRationalWiki GOLD member 12:17, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
Just to be pedantic, every organism alive at any given time is at the exact same "level" on the evolutionary tree. ħumanUser talk:Human 13:44, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
Jellyfish are actually more complicated than we think. For example, they have four brains, which operate on a semi-mobocratic principle: whichever option gets the most votes or the loudest shouting wins. Wazza (Not Wazzock, Wazza)Approach the Presence 13:46, 2 June 2008 (EDT)


I find myself mysteriously unable to block you.
I am perplexed. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 20:03, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

I shall refrain from editing for 31 seconds as a token block on your behalf. SusanG  ContribsTalk 20:05, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
Consider yourself de-bureaucratized as well. :) <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 20:08, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
For 31 seconds I shall not perform the duties of Bureaucrat! SusanG  ContribsTalk 20:11, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Oh, randomly, I think you should archive this page Susan. Nods.gif Lyra § talk 20:15, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Bit a of a liberal interpretation there.
For 31 seconds, I too will not do bureaustuff! Out of solidarity! <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 20:17, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
leave me alone! (I'm installing dreamweaver on this piggin laptop at 1:30 AM & it's getting me MAD) SusanG  ContribsTalk 20:31, 1 June 2008 (EDT)


Lumbered, as I appear to be, with this VISTA (Ugh) laptop, I've got the choice of either installing Photoshop or downloading the Gimp - I'm accustomed to P'shop & haven't used the Gimp for about 5 years. What's the recommendation of the mob? SusanG  ContribsTalk 19:54, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

I recommend going with Photoshop. More user-friendly. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 20:12, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
Mm. I tend to think that too - I've just downloaded the Gimp & it's not as obvious as I recall. (Just having my weekly alcohol allowance - 2 measures of Ardbeg - YUMMY) SusanG  ContribsTalk 20:20, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
I was going to say, set up both and tell us which works better. I haven't run either in years, PS just took too long to load and could do way more than I ever wanted to do (although I did make a red car yellow once, so...). Gimp I also last saw years ago and it was weird in that it opened new windows for everything you wanted to do. So I just trundle along with PSP 6 or so, and it works. ħumanUser talk:Human 20:57, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
Well, the learning curve on the Gimp is horrendous but it's free. Pshop is more intuitive but that might just be because I'm more accustomed to it? I'm running with Pshop 7 from years ago & can't afford to upgrade - given the option I'd buy one of Adobe's MX selections but I think I'll persevere with Gimp (I'm reading through all the Help files now [21mb download - bigger than the program!]). (I see why they warn against alcohol with some medications last night a large scotch knocked me flat for 12 hours!) SusanG  ContribsTalk 15:09, 3 June 2008 (EDT)
Thing about Gimp though, is you've got more control over a lot of what you do. PS has a lot of extra gimmicks and such, and a lot of automated features, many of which just take up space. So to use an analogy, it's like the difference between a standard and automatic transmission. One's got more control, the other's got better cruise control --Kels 15:23, 3 June 2008 (EDT)
Yup! I'm gonna persevere with Gimp - It'll take some time but what the Hey? SusanG  ContribsTalk 16:23, 3 June 2008 (EDT)

Re: My essay[edit]

Moved to Essay Talk:On Illegal Immigrants


Moved to Author's talk page. SusanG  ContribsTalk 17:21, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

I'm trying to Read[edit]

Just found a good story on Literotica & can't be bothered anymore. SusanG  ContribsTalk 17:21, 7 June 2008 (EDT)


I'm bored. Want to edit war over something? <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 21:23, 8 June 2008 (EDT) Naar thanx - I'm STUMBLUPONing & website editing & not sleeping (it's 2:30AM here!) SusanG  ContribsTalk 21:29, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

So unilateral![edit]

I'm impressed!
But we really should get an actual policy for dealing with abuse of the castle rule. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 03:45, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

We have: Obscenities, Spamming, Racism etc can be removed without warning. SusanG  ContribsTalk 03:48, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
Does it say that where the actual castle rule is written? <sheepish>I don't really know where it is.</sheepish> <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 03:50, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
If memory serves (and probably doesn't, its late), we have two places with the castle rule in the help section, but one doesn't state that there are exceptions and the other doesn't satisfactorily state what those exceptions are. NightFlareStill doesn't have a RWW article. 03:57, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
FUCK FUCK FUCK! Did it to ME this time - I shouldn't be let out alone.
Dunno where it's writ, but I know it's "established custom & practice" (sorta like common law) SusanG  ContribsTalk 03:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
We should really come up with a few clear situations where content can be removed. I think external links and pornography covers it, myself. We shouldn't be censoring political opinions, no matter how moronic they are. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 04:04, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
It happens infrequently enuff that I think we can play it by ear. SusanG  ContribsTalk 04:06, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
But there'll be borderline cases where it won't be obvious what kind of thing editors are allowed to revert/remove. I think we need a system just to keep everyone on the same page. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 04:08, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
Borderline cases are the very ones where a written rule falls apart. (look at gun constitution amendment whatever number it is. That's when you need common sense or, failing that, MOB RULE! SusanG  ContribsTalk 04:13, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
Hmmm... I'm watching you... <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 04:15, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
RationalWiki:Community Standards and Help:Namespace are those places I was talking about, and as you can see they phail, its the sort of thing we would be criticising CP for. Somebody change it to reflect current common law (or I'll do it later if everybody else is lazy). NightFlareStill doesn't have a RWW article. 04:17, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
Trouble is, if you've got a written rule, people will sail so close to it, or bypass it that they become a pain. By using COMMON SENSE you obviate sneaky bastards. I'm against written rules. SusanG  ContribsTalk 04:20, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
So am I, but only when they're written in English. Latin all the way! Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 04:29, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
Thing about LAWS - they breed LAWYERS. SusanG  ContribsTalk 04:32, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
(And, by analogy RULES breed RULERS & we're a mobocracy! SusanG  ContribsTalk 04:40, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
But MOBS breed MOBLINS! Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 04:45, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
Well, Ok, but I'll change it so at least it doesn't say that anything goes, which is clearly not true. NightFlareStill doesn't have a RWW article. 11:23, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
Mobs actually breed mobsters, to torture the analogy. And any changes to CS need to be discussed at talk:CS (can copy this stuff there for a jump start if desired). ħumanUser talk:Human 14:38, 11 June 2008 (EDT)


You have to call him "Unicorn Rainbow"!! You have to! <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 04:30, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

I wonder if that remoulded his personality? <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 04:37, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

hello :-)[edit]

Hello, just passing through and thought I'd say hi! -- Refugeetalk page 21:05, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

Sit & stay a while; why don't you? SusanG  ContribsTalk 21:20, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
Nothing much changes, everything stays the same!

Your own wiki[edit]

You had mentioned a desire to run your own installed version of mediawiki, I can offer you hosting off the rationalwiki server for really cheap as long as it doesn't get too big. tmtoulouse frustrate 23:39, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

It'd probably always be small. I'd give you the url but there's 1 or 2 on here I wouldn't trust & the email thing hasn't confirmed my email. How big is too big? SusanG  ContribsTalk 23:56, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
Trent's email addy is on his user page. Pretty much, as I recall, TimmyTooLoose at McMaster DOT "edu". It's not a "real" edu, of course. Just a liberal hive of Darwinists trying to promote their atheistic religion. Anyway, you can email him directly. Also, if you have hardcore MW installed, you can setup user creation rights however you want. ħumanUser talk:Human 00:00, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
My e-mail is if you want to move there, the "size" thing is more based around number of users for the CPU time. So depends how many users are editing at a time and how active they are editing. tmtoulouse frustrate 00:01, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Thanks: I'll be on to you TMT. H: it was the now I was thinking of: I can imagine RA & Jelly going berserk on our site (& B****n doesn't bear thinking about). SusanG  ContribsTalk 00:04, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
I'm one of the "not trusted"? ...  :' ( Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 00:06, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
It's not you so much as your sense of humour I'd be wary of :-) SusanG  ContribsTalk 00:11, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
What's wrong with my sense of humor? ' : | Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 00:14, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Susan, I'd recommend strictly moderating editor sign-up, esp, since it a locally-oriented wiki and you could literally, simply, meet people who want to help, right? (Down to pub, and all... OH! See new section!) ħumanUser talk:Human 00:20, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
It's for locals? Okay, I understand why I shouldn't join then. If you had said so it wouldn't have bothered me. Good luck! Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 00:27, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Jellyfish wants to join. Especially if it's about cats. Promiss to be gud. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 00:30, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
GO AWAY Jelly! — Unsigned, by: SusanG / talk / contribs
Sulk. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 01:29, 14 June 2008 (EDT)


Human, I have sent you a very unimportant email. SusanG  ContribsTalk 00:35, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

I'll make sure Kendoll is alerted! Atheism in the UK might be at stake! ħumanUser talk:Human 01:18, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
I've even made provision ont'wiki for churches to have their patch - they're a fact of life & have to be catered for (no-one here really knows what a vile anti-godbotherer I am) I even converse with vicars without salivating & going for the throat - two faced bitch - that's me! SusanG  ContribsTalk 01:34, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Eh, as someone who was there for the Great Pissing Contest, I think I have a pretty good idea of what an "anti-godbotherer" you are. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 02:20, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
"Here" geographically not "here" Interwebilly. SusanG  ContribsTalk 02:25, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Oh. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 02:38, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Yes, that makes sense, if you're doing a community thing - inclusiveness. I guess I see RW as a place for that, for my own part. Not to act all high-and-mighty about it, of course. In other venues I'm easily as much of an anti-godbotherer as you (see [1] and [2]). But as we have, well, "religious" friends here who are "on our side", I temper my intemperance. And drink heavily. ħumanUser talk:Human 02:54, 14 June 2008 (EDT)


Go to and scroll down/search for "Drovers Arms". Bob and his Boyfriend duplicated the sign on the pub shown, to stick next to the bar tent at the 'rents 50th party. So sweet, and such effort for friends, eh? ħumanUser talk:Human 00:24, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Bootiful & you don't see the Royal and Ancient Order of Buffaloes thing much any more. Is that where they (and you?) came from? SusanG  ContribsTalk 00:38, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Yes, it's where I came from. And, yes, the idea was bootiful, and so was/is Cefn. At 8 & 6, at best, my brother and I used to go "play on the mountain"... what a childhood. Is that really the meaning of RAOB? Because it was a matter of some discussion at the party, and the "answer" at the time included some crap about "Ante-diluvian". Got linkies? ħumanUser talk:Human 00:59, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
We had a mountain (spoil heap) called The Docker for some reason, where we used to play & dig Etc. Yes it is RAOB - I'll inversigate - not come across it for years - a working man's freemasons sort of thing I think. SusanG  ContribsTalk 01:07, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Don't really want to interrupt, but antediluvian isn't hyphenated. Teach the controversy. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 01:09, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Shut up Jellyfish. Anyway... spoil heaps... Aberfan was a half dozen miles down the road... ħumanUser talk:Human 01:13, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
It was Royal Antediluvian Order of Buffaloes, mea culpa. Used to see the initials over many pub doors. SusanG  ContribsTalk 01:17, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Horrors! I remember Aberfan. SusanG  ContribsTalk 01:18, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Heh! RAOB first tier members are kangaroos SusanG  ContribsTalk 01:28, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for the confirmation; and yes, I also remember Aberfan. Horror show, indeed. The mining accident claimed the children, and the miners came out of the hole to find their babies dead. Utterly horrible. Ah, but there are pretty memories of the Valleys too, to make up for that, slightly. ħumanUser talk:Human 01:29, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
That's brought back memories I didn't know i had, grainy black and white newspaper images of that school being dug out of the pit waste. When was it? SusanG  ContribsTalk 01:38, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
I forget the exact year... WP has an article, of course. '65, maybe? And, yes awful grainy pictures of the digging out... ħumanUser talk:Human 01:45, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
"Friday, 1966 October 21, at 09:15". You'd think I'd know by now, I've read that article & stuff a half dozen times by now. Where iz mai brainz when I knead them? ħumanUser talk:Human 02:16, 14 June 2008 (EDT)


Humanity is special :) <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 04:04, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Agreed. Even an atheist has to admit that. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 04:40, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Well, not really. You can be an atheist without being a humanist as well. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 06:11, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Special compared to what? Lyra § talk 10:53, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Other forms of life. Incidentally, just so that I don't look chemically unbalanced, I should point out that this thread was a response to this. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 10:58, 14 June 2008 (EDT)


No problem at all, knock yourself out. In a few days I'll move them to wherever people think they belong, so the whole history will follow them. Obviously, I'm trying to "give them up" to the mob, I'm just not sure where to put them yet. ħumanUser talk:Human 00:49, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

I'm not doing it right I know - I can't impersonalise (?) it enough - everything comes out too snarky SusanG  ContribsTalk 00:55, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
Well, if that's what the mob "says" - mob, meaning you, right now, that's what we say! ħumanUser talk:Human 03:42, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

I want you to do me a favour...[edit]

<font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 09:11, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

? SusanG  ContribsTalk 09:13, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

Economical. I like it.
I'd like you to rename me "]nndvDL", please. You might want to copy and paste that :) <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 09:20, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
Don't want to risk the "]" - it might upset the wiki (as a first "letter" that is). SusanG  ContribsTalk 09:25, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
You're right -- it doesn't accept that character for new accounts. It does accept "¬", but that's kinda rubbish. Try it with a capital i instead: "InndvDL". Thanks! <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 09:31, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
Actually, no. Forget that.
Stand by and await further instructions. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Diane, I'm at RationalWiki again... 09:32, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
You're no better than Bohdan, 85. Please don't be a twit. Make your name change meaningful, like Ames did. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 17:26, 18 June 2008 (EDT)


We are honored with this due to the magnificent efforts of Icewedge, and he probably got a decent grade on the paper ;) Would you like to work with me on organizing it a bit better? It seems to cry out for some sections getting sub-headered under broader main headers, for example. But each time I try to approach the whole project, my head starts to hurt ;)

For instance, flora, fauna, and natural resources might go together. There's some history stuff, I think. And so on. I don't really want to hack up his text, it's not bad (once the splign eros are fixed), but it would be nice to make it "flow" better. Whatcha think? Needs more moose? (PS, up here in NH & Maine, we have had for decades now bumper stickers people can buy that say "Warning: Brake for Moose" - if you hit one in a car, you'll probably die) ħumanUser talk:Human 21:21, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

It struck me that it was rather non-RW in that it was devoid of snark, but my total knowledge of Alaska derives from that TV series about a doctor (?) and that song what was it? Anchorage? Other than that the article itself provides me with as much (or more) info than I really need to know.
The only reason I put the Moose on there was that I liked it & wanted to share. The first Moose on searching RW was Alaska - so it got lucky.
SusanG  ContribsTalk 22:12, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
Hehe. No real "knowledge" of Alaska is required, I was just looking for some hopefully motivated help in restructuring it. At least it has a moose piccie now, though! ħumanUser talk:Human 21:12, 19 June 2008 (EDT)


I was going through the list of sysops telling them to block Hagger. I wish I were a sysop here. Then I could have blocked him. Proxima Centauri 07:52, 23 June 2008 (EDT)


Comment on my talk page. <blink></blink> 21:04, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

RE: Troy King[edit]

If you could pop on over to Troy King for a minute, I edited it to work for mission statement three I beleive. --*Gen. S.T. Shrink* Get to the bunker 19:12, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

Made me LAFFOUTLOUD. Thanks. .... now, where's my rabbit? SusanG  ContribsTalk 19:18, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
Wanna know something even funnier? Loretta Nall, one of my all-time favorite people organized a drive for Troy. Speaking as someone with experience, the man is do I put this delicately....fucktard. --*Gen. S.T. Shrink* Get to the bunker 19:23, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
I don't know if you Murcans are lucky having so much lulz around or in desperate straits having so many fucktards in charge. SusanG  ContribsTalk 19:30, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
Well, there are a few intelligent people like Gavin Newsom and....well, thats all I can think of at the moment. Alabama is full of whackos though. --*Gen. S.T. Shrink* Get to the bunker 19:33, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

You should look at recent changes more :P[edit]

So you can agree with me when I comment on things in your userspace. Get it together! <blink></blink> 09:31, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

I tend to just drop something & see what reaction (if any) I get. I leave things to wiser minds. Yes your analogy is good. Sorry I'm tired. SusanG  ContribsTalk 09:34, 26 June 2008 (EDT)
Don't worry, you gave me ample preening material there :) <blink></blink> 09:37, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

How dare you block us without voting first![edit]

<blink></blink> 14:23, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

It's called "Bullying". SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:31, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
It seems to me that you have disrupted a completely open, transparent, democratic process. Would you care to explain your reasoning Susan? Administrative abuse awaits!--Bobbing up 14:33, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
Ha! And how about YOU? Causing an offensive orange banner to appear at teh top of EVERY page I visit? We'll see who's abusive! SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:37, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
You must love the orange banner. Else I shall sting you. <blink></blink> 14:44, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

(or we could all gang up on Lurker. SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:40, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Hey!! *pouts* Lurker 14:51, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
What's wrong with Lurker? He was before my time, really. <blink></blink> 14:44, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
There is nothing wrong with lurker. He's a sort of official reality-check, group-think questioner (well- on a good day.)--Bobbing up 14:59, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
You've DONE IT AGAIN - that nasty orange banner! - Nothing wrong with Lurker, just a welcome back attack sort of thing. SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:53, 27 June 2008 (EDT) (You are new, aren't you/
Anyone who can pout under threat of being ganged up on must be OK. SusanG  ContribsTalk 15:03, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
I can do that much better than Lucker over there :P <blink></blink> 15:06, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
STOP IT WITH THE ORANGE BANNER ALREADY SusanG  ContribsTalk 15:12, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
Don't you like talking to me? :P <blink></blink> 15:23, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
Course I do, sweety. I'm off to the pub now (first time for almost 6 weeks) YAYYY! SusanG  ContribsTalk 15:39, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
I think it's "sweetie". Either way: ick. <blink></blink> 19:24, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Creating accounts[edit]

How do you create accounts while logged in? ThunderkatzHo! 19:11, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Go to: [[:Special:Userlogin&type=signup]] & signup SusanG  ContribsTalk 19:19, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
Does that work? Cool. I was going to say, use a new browser window or separate browser or something. ħumanUser talk:Human 19:24, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
Like that. See? SusanG  ContribsTalk 19:27, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
OMG they'll all be at it now! SusanG  ContribsTalk 19:29, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
Very cool, thanks for the demo! ħumanUser talk:Human 19:39, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
Thanks for the link, Ms G! <blink></blink> 19:46, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Thanks, though looking at Chaos's chaos, maybe I should've asked you in private. ThunderkatzHo! 20:11, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Or maybe I should have kept my gob shut while the lower orders of the animal kingdom were around! (I never learn) SusanG  ContribsTalk 20:15, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
More two-leg prejudice. You cannot fight all of us jellyfish -- we're far too sticky. <blink></blink> 20:23, 27 June 2008 (EDT)


<blink></blink> 20:00, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Well, you're being silly. I might block 'em all for infinity! SusanG  ContribsTalk 20:03, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
Nooooooo!! Well, you could probably block the monthname ones if you want. <blink></blink> 20:06, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Well, you're being silly. I might block 'em all for infinity! SusanG  ContribsTalk 20:03, 27 June 2008 (EDT)


  1. 00:57, 28 June 2008 Chaos! (Talk | contribs | block) created account for User:December (Talk | contribs | block)
  2. 00:57, 28 June 2008 Chaos! (Talk | contribs | block) created account for User:November (Talk | contribs | block)
  3. 00:57, 28 June 2008 Chaos! (Talk | contribs | block) created account for User:October (Talk | contribs | block)
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  10. 00:54, 28 June 2008 Chaos! (Talk | contribs | block) created account for User:March (Talk | contribs | block)
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  13. 00:44, 28 June 2008 Chaos! (Talk | contribs | block) created account for User:My password certainly isn't factories (Talk | contribs | block)
  14. 00:44, 28 June 2008 Chaos! (Talk | contribs | block) created account for User:Pin (Talk | contribs | block)
  15. 00:43, 28 June 2008 Chaos! (Talk | contribs | block) created account for User:Season (Talk | contribs | block)
  16. 00:43, 28 June 2008 Chaos! (Talk | contribs | block) created account for User:Pastoral Kane (Talk | contribs | block)
  17. 00:42, 28 June 2008 Chaos! (Talk | contribs | block) created account for User:6,001,000 (Talk | contribs | block)
  18. 00:42, 28 June 2008 Chaos! (Talk | contribs | block) created account for User:Exclaim! (Talk | contribs | block)
  19. 00:40, 28 June 2008 Chaos! (Talk | contribs | block) created account for User:Orange Banner! (Talk | contribs | block)
  20. 00:26, 28 June 2008 Chaos! (Talk | contribs | block) created account for User:Drew Pickles (Talk | contribs | block)

See: Silly! SusanG  ContribsTalk 20:08, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Lies. Lies and verbatim quotes.
I love the "certainly isn't factories" one! The fact that the statement is true just makes it unbearably funny.
A fun day, all considered. <blink></blink> 20:10, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
By all means block Drew Pickles. I can't stand that name. <blink></blink> 20:15, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
Well, I'm just gonna leave 'em here for future reference. SusanG  ContribsTalk 20:17, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
We should make a shrine to them. So that we remember this day in the years to come. <blink></blink> 20:22, 27 June 2008 (EDT)


Personally, I like this, especially the army one. ThunderkatzHo! 22:36, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

I like the dyslexia one. <blink></blink> 22:40, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Is that it?[edit]

I find the page move ones quite tedious. Still I suppose the little vandal having an orgasm over the mess is happy.  :-) Bobbing up 09:46, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Heh! I've made him a vandal, is it working d'you know? I only caught up with the new rights thing this afternoon. SusanG  ContribsTalk 09:51, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
Trent and Human were playing with it earlier on (Human doesn't like it). See their talk pages. I think Trent left it set up. It's supposed to mean that they can only do one edit a minute or something of that order.--Bobbing up 09:57, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
I like it if it works. What's H got against it? SusanG  ContribsTalk 10:00, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
He seems to feel that it's an unnecessary complication. But I am most reluctant to put words in his mouth as I think it's a good idea. Look under "vandal brake" on Trent and Human's talk pages.--Bobbing up 10:06, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
I've read it all & I like it. SusanG  ContribsTalk 10:11, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
Yes, it seems very sensible to me. Put the bad guys in the "sin bin" for a while. They can still edit to plead for a more lenient sentence. Keep IP's down to one a minute or whatever - why would they need to do more? And they can sign up if it's a problem, and even if they go vandal we can still "sin bin" them to put them back where they were. Nobody gets a permaban. All looks good.--Bobbing up 10:16, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
I don't think I said I didn't like it - although there was a point when Trent was 'sperimentin' and I lost an edit I'd put some effort into. Separate issue, though. I like the new tool. ħumanUser talk:Human 17:55, 28 June 2008 (EDT)


If you don't catch my reply on my talk page, that was a very sweet tip. I hope it works as advertizzed! ħumanUser talk:Human 00:39, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

Little orange message[edit]

This little orange message has been sent to you by Bob as a test. LittleOrangeMessage.jpg. I hope you enjoy it. :-)--Bobbing up 08:46, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

Saw you uploading it! Sweet; Thank you.Th hug.gif SusanG  ContribsTalk 08:52, 29 June 2008 (EDT)
Doing my bit to spread goodwill. :-) --Bobbing up 08:54, 29 June 2008 (EDT)


Hey Susan. Sorry for irritating. Hope I haven't trod on your toes too badly. Really didn't mean to. RedDog 13:42, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

You haven't irritated at all. we've all made accidental edits etc. SusanG  ContribsTalk 13:50, 1 July 2008 (EDT)


The Drew Pickles one was actually part of a Nightflare-instigated endevour to weed out names that BarneyBot user might try to use. <blink></blink> 14:08, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

I know, I've been waiting for an excuse to do that since you created them. Heh! SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:13, 1 July 2008 (EDT)
I can make more. It would be fun.
I'm not sure you read my comment, either -- the Drew Pickles one was necessary. <blink></blink> 14:14, 1 July 2008 (EDT)
Also, could you move Ed Poor out of the Vandals group? I put him in for amusement and I don't appear to be able to undo it :) <blink></blink> 14:17, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

In case you didn't notice...[edit]

Is. <blink></blink> 14:30, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

US Independence Day[edit]

Susan, thanks for the reminder - it's my wedding anniverary. Jollyfish.gifGenghisRationalWiki GOLD member 19:25, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Happy Anniversary! (Actually I was looking for something that said " thank God we got rid! " but couldn't find anything. SusanG  ContribsTalk 19:27, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

How's things[edit]

How's things?--Bobbing up 11:57, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

no complaints; bored! You? SusanG  ContribsTalk 12:03, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
Taking a bit of a forced break at the moment, so I'm on site a bit more than usual. Saying hello to newbies and fighting the good fight.  :-) We've had a fair number of IP's who've actually added content recently so I tried to make the IP welcome a bit more welcoming. I think it looks a but ugly though. What do you think? Template:Welcome/IP. --Bobbing up 12:07, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
jazz up the colour? That blue's not the best? Put a Th hug.gif in? Wording's ok I think. (I'm confined to barracks & going stir crazy (i'm going thru: [3], I'm so bored. SusanG  ContribsTalk 12:16, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
The blue is a tad depressing I think. I'm sure you're better at colouring in than me though. Any ideas?--Bobbing up 12:20, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
For blue read pink.--Bobbing up 12:23, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
OOps Th unsure.gif SusanG  ContribsTalk 12:25, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
Also: Kids are home so I'm down to dial-up speed Zoff.gif SusanG  ContribsTalk 12:27, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
You have kids? Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 13:24, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
Ha! Heh! Ha! Heh! Ha! Heh! Ha! Heh! NO No No. It's when all the bandwidth sharing little beggars get home, they log on to UTube & whatever & steal my bandwidth. I drop from 3000kbps to 30 . SusanG  ContribsTalk 13:30, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
(Edit conflict -- I shall post this even though you made it redundant -- and I hope it teaches you a lesson :P) I think she means nearby kids. Inspecific kids. Kids in general. <blink></blink> 13:32, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
Well that's, er, nice to hear  : } Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 15:11, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

<--Hey, I went and played at prettifying the welcome/IP template. Mostly rearranging the text so the layout is nicer. Didn't notice a color issue... ħumanUser talk:Human 21:18, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Didn't bother me - twas Bob. The colour is a bit sort of washed out looking - not very inviting, but I don't mind it really. SusanG  ContribsTalk 21:41, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
I wouldn't think you'd mind, Suse—you're not the one who has to see it on their talk page  : ) Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 04:12, 4 July 2008 (EDT)


Just yesterday on the radio I heard a conservative disc jockey say, on the air, that all liberals are "latte-drinking, soft-handed pansies" and that he can tell a liberal just by the way they speak. Imagine if he'd have said something similar about Catholics. Phil Donahue would be breaking down the door, demanding his termination. It's funny how someone like that can be so ignorant and hateful publicly about people who don't agree with him politically, but when someone expresses a lack of belief, all of the sudden the poor religious people are being persecuted.
An iteresting article. SusanG  ContribsTalk 17:35, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
Except, assuming we're talking about an evangelical conservative disc jockey, he probably has said similar things and worse about Catholics. --AKjeldsenCum dissensie 17:42, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
LOL. SusanG  ContribsTalk 17:50, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Atuin Copyright[edit]

Susan. Sorry if the Atuin thing pissed you off. Please put it down to enthusiasm, naiivety and ingnorance. Please don't send me on a copyright course though. My life is dull enough as it is. Crookedmouth 02:43, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Red Dog[edit]

Hi Susan. I see that you've retired and archived Red Dog. All within our normal operations of course. But he's a total Newbie to RW and a bit of explanation about that procedure/option might have been good idea. Poor chap may well be wondering what on earth is going on. --Bobbing up 09:15, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Seemed pretty clear to me & there was a direct request on his user page. Feel free to revert. SusanG  ContribsTalk 09:24, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
Well, actually his request was for the whole thing to be deleted. He tried to erase everything on the quiet (not knowing the relevant community standards) but both Human and I reversed him. When I explained the issue he asked (reasonably politely) if he could be deleted. I told him that was beyond the power of any one person and it was down to the mob. Do you have any feelings? It's not like CP "burning the evidence" which the standard was designed to prevent.--Bobbing up 09:34, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
I don't think we should delete - precedent setting (He can delete his user page if he wants of course). If he's any queries he can ask any of us - or log on under a different name & start afresh. I think he was a good RWian but ... SusanG  ContribsTalk 09:42, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
Ah yes, good point about the user page. With the new settings don't know if he can delete it though. My inclination would be to go as far as we can in helping him out as he might - as you say - decide to return under a different identity. Let's see if anybody else chimes in.--Bobbing up 09:48, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
Chime. <blink></blink> 09:52, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Thank you very much to all involved in 'retiring' me as per my request during a near mental break down of a week ago. I have just returned from a week in The Highlands climbing mountains and feal far more mentally stable. I would like to appolagise for creating such a fuss and really appreciate the time people put into replying to my whining. It is this kind of attitude that seperates RW from CP by a wide, wide gulf. I will now slump into quiet obscurity, learn by my mistakes and enjoy reading RW. Sincere thanks Susan, Bob, et al. RedDog 07:14, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for that Red Dog. Actually I was a bit concerned that we still hadn't done exactly what you had wanted, but if you're happy then that's great. Remember that you will be most welcome to return as Red Dog or any other identity should you decide to do so. --Bobbing up 08:22, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

Hey, SuzyG![edit]

Do you know where I can find a simple list of RW sysops? Jollyfish.gifGenghisRationalWiki GOLD member 15:03, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Haven't seen Susan post for a while G go: List of RationalWiki sysops--Bobbing up 15:06, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
Sorry Susan! Didn't see you.  :-( --Bobbing up 15:07, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
Sorry Genghis: I've no idea! SusanG  ContribsTalk 15:12, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
Sorry, Susan. Shouldn't have bothered you. Sorry Bob, I should have remembered that, thanks. Jollyfish.gifGenghisRationalWiki GOLD member 16:04, 4 July 2008 (EDT)


Awesome, despite meaning:

  1. . Inspiring awe: an awesome thunderstorm.
  2. . Expressing awe: stood in awesome silence before the ancient ruins.
  3. . Slang. Remarkable; outstanding: “a totally awesome arcade game” (Los Angeles Times).


is commonly used to denote that someone has done a good job (watered down third definition above?).

Conservapedia, uses the word to excess. There are 93 talk pages (main & user only) with the word on. Many of these have multiple uses.

RW is even worse, there are 184 talk/usertalk pages with this word on at least once.

Why has this word become so downgraded in its usage?

And what has replaced its original meaning?

SusanG  ContribsTalk 17:09, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

I think it still carries its original meaning (1 & 2). Context makes it clear if it's the slangier version (3), one would hope. What brought about this awesome commentary? ħumanUser talk:Human 17:19, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
Heh! IT just (to knick Genghis's phrase) gets on my tits. Sorry! SusanG  ContribsTalk 17:28, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
And whatever happened to awful or terrific? Jollyfish.gifGenghisRationalWiki GOLD member 17:34, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
P.S. Susan you are welcome to use that phrase whenever you like. Jollyfish.gifGenghisRationalWiki GOLD member 06:03, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
1) Because it is an awesome word.
2) "Aweinspiring"? --AKjeldsenCum dissensie 19:13, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
Well, Susan, would you prefer the painfully dated "rad"? Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 23:57, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
Isn't that your username, Radman? :P <blink></blink> 00:26, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
Ha ha, Chaos. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 04:48, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
Awesome discussion, "dudes". ħumanUser talk:Human 04:54, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

I am not sure how well my plan was thought through...[edit]

I recently uploaded Image:Conservative Deciet.PNG because things have a way of vanishing, but I have no clue where I should place it. I decided to ask a vetern editor for some halp with this because... I am epically confused right now. Javascap 22:01, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

First, see how I linked to it above without displaying? Then, iIf nothing else, link to it on your userpage so you remember we have it. ħumanUser talk:Human 22:03, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
We have this somewhat neglected page. \approx\pi 22:07, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
Cool... ħumanUser talk:Human 22:11, 7 July 2008 (EDT)


'Susan' asks me to tell you that she'll be "offline" for a while. (couple of days? - couple of weeks?) Marghanita Laski 14:05, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

Sorry to hear that. Hope she's OK.--Bobbing up 14:07, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
I think she has to undergo periodic treatments. I hope they continue to succeed, and that no wazzocks hassle her while she is away from here. ħumanUser talk:Human 19:29, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
I'm back home & have just spent the last couple of hours (2:40 am here) catching up. I'm knackered tired & not very lively so won't be around much for a while. She who must be obeyed has threatened to remove my internet permission if I don't get some rest so ... SusanG  ContribsTalk 21:44, 16 July 2008 (EDT)
Get some resting up done and settling back in and we'll see you again soon! ħumanUser talk:Human 22:00, 16 July 2008 (EDT)