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What is going on?[edit]

Note: Citizendium is a bit like a bad horror film: just when you think it's dead, it comes back and does something ridiculous. That said, we're pretty much documenting its terminal decline now. The WIGO is still open to entries, but gaps of five days without edits just aren't newsworthy anymore. Which says something in and of itself.

September 2020[edit]

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3And just like that, they're back to just the usual $5 monthly donation for August. Hey, two months was a good run, right?

August 2020[edit]

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12Monthly financial report update: Donation record set again ($505.00), plus monthly costs are down to $74.95 following the recent server upgrade. This comes as Citizendium begins a renewed push to get more users/activity, though it's unlikely this plan will work if the past few years are any indication.

July 2020[edit]

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5Will CZ live after all? Apparently the main page now says "we intend to keep going", while acknowledging that only a few people remain interested in the project.
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1After a mere four years, the site notice displayed to visitors telling them to treat the "new" site as a beta has been removed.
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4As of right now (14:44 UTC July 21), Citizendium is down and giving a "connection timed out error". Edit: Server upgrade was completed around 15:15. Curious time to schedule downtime though.
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10Checking in on the financial report: Citizendium got $295.70 worth of donations in June, the most they've received in a month since December 2017. Citizendium's impending shutdown has also triggered unprecedented levels of editing activity (the past 5 days have all had at least 1 edit), as people seek to make their last edits before the wiki closes.
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11Sanger returns, for the first time in eight years. He transfers ownership of CZ to Pat Palmer and creates an article on Atonement.
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18For its last days, Citizendium will at least have working SSL.

June 2020[edit]

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10Updates to CZ's main page acknowledge the impending shutdown while expressing hope that the site may continue in some form
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8Even as most of the remaining Citizens are on-board with shutting down Citizendium completely, Pat Palmer still wants to keep the project afloat in some form and is now suggesting that CZ be converted into a subscription-based opt-in no-public editing wiki (Darren Duncan also seems to like aspects of the idea, although he also supports a simple shutdown with any remaining content being archived somewhere else). And of course it wouldn't be CZ without keeping the real names policy! As of June 26 the only other Citizen that supports CZ continuing is N Rajendra Raju.
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12The end of Citizendium⁉ Discussion on formally shutting down the project has restarted on CZ with treasurer Hayford Peirce sending messages to users who have made recent edits or who are administrators to contribute to the shutdown talks.
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5Things of note over the last two weeks or so:
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10The CZ gets its first new user (Akarsh Verma) in almost two years!
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6Just to note for the record that Hayford Pierce is now the only active user of CZ with a single edit to update the financial report. This is the first time CZ has had a single active user; and the first time there has only been one edit in the last 30 days.
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8Hayford Pierce breaks a record 30-day streak without edits to add this month's $5 donation to the financial report. Nobody edited in between monthly updates to the financial report.

May 2020[edit]

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10As of today (28 May) there have been no edits to Citizendium since the aforementioned edit by Hayford on 2 May. At almost four weeks this is easily the longest ever dry spell for the site.
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6In the 3½ weeks since 16 April four editors have each made a single edit to Citizendium. Martinkugler edited their user page on 17 April, ‎N Rajendra Raju added the same sentence to P Venkataramana Raju (Rao Bahadur) twice on the 24 April, Martin added two sentences to The City of Dreadful Night on 1 May and Hayford updated the financial report on 2 May.

April 2020[edit]

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5As of today (April 16) four editors have made edits to Citzendium this month: John, Hayford, Martin, and ‎Roger A. Lohmann. Among them, only John and Roger have made multiple edits, with Roger's only edits being to his userspace. Schizophrenia and Medieval English Mystics‎ are the only articles to have been edited so far. About the only other thing of note that's taken place this month was a DMCA takedown request that was acted upon.
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5Citizendium's "Recent Events" box is gone from the website, with it no longer being deemed "topical". Prior to its removal, it still listed events such as Mosul and Brexit as "ongoing" but had no mention of the coronavirus pandemic (indeed, Citizendium does not have an article on anything coronavirus-related at all.)
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7CZ's finances drop below $2,000 for the first time since 2017.
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7Justin becomes the first non-Peter editor on Citizendium in weeks, and surprisingly the edit is not about closing CZ down this time.

March 2020[edit]

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9For perhaps the first time in Citizendium history, no edits are listed on its recent changes page, instead it shows a "No changes during the given period matching these criteria" message.
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0As of this edit (March 28), Peter's notice is the only edit to the wiki that's listed on the site's Recent Changes page. If there are still no edits by tomorrow, that will mean that Citizendium's Special:RecentPages page will soon be empty for the first time in its history.
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9During these trying times, it's interesting to note that there is no mention of COVID-19 on Citizendium's "current events" box, but other events such as Brexit, Mosul and FBI are included.
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7Perhaps unsurprisingly, as of today (March 26) there hasn't been a single edit to Citizendium since Peter's notice.
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8Peter Jackson notifies the void that he has likely made his last edit for months. He has been the only contributor to Citizendium since March 4th, and during that time, Citizendium had its first stretch of seven full days without edits.

February 2020[edit]

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9Only six edits over the past week, all of them by Peter. Did he not get the memo that even his remaining fellow Citizens have given up? You know that the end is near when even Hayford is now calling for the project's demise.

January 2020: A Make-or-Break Year for Citizendium?[edit]

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17It might time to start etching Citizendium's gravestone, as Hayford and Justin have decided to contact Larry about shutting down the project. No reply was given as of now to Hayford's first e-mail, but Hayford has sent another one, and a week from now Hayford and Justin may again discuss the project's future.[1]
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8As of today (January 24), a grand total of three editors (Peter, Hayford, and ‎Justin Anthony Knapp) have made any edits to CZ in all of 2020, with Justin's only edits being the aforementioned proposals to close CZ. In addition, there were no edits on New Year's Day, and on January 3rd, 5th to 8th, 15th to 18th, and the 22nd.
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11In the first week of 2020, there was a grand total of 1 edit to content namespaces meaning the encyclopaedia shrank by a net 3 characters.[2]
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14The final end? Justin and Hayford believe the time has finally come to shut the project down: "It's clear that Citizendium is simply not going to be a viable project as an encyclopedia."[3]

November 2019[edit]

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9With less than 22 months of funding left Justin asks when they should throw in the towel while Hayford ponders trying to get Larry interested again. Good luck with that!
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Even Citizendium's active users statistics page is so ashamed that it crashes.
This is the bug if anyone is interested: [4]

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For the third time this year CZ is back to ‎Hayford Peirce and ‎Peter Jackson as the sites only active editors.

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8In the last 30 days there have been 83 edits: 1 by ‎John Stephenson, 3 by Hayford Peirce, 3 by Richard Nevell and 76 by Peter Jackson (including all but one edit in the first 16 days of November).

October 2019[edit]

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15Larry Sanger quits Everipedia to start yet another new encyclopedia project - the Encyclosphere! (A name that sounds like Uncyclopedia taking the piss.)
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14Over the last year, the donations have finally crashed to near-nothing. Probably because some people realised they had an auto pay they didn't mean to. They still have about two years of funds left, but this vanity project is finally on the road out.

September 2019[edit]

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5Over the past two weeks, almost every edit has been done by Peter and John Leach, who seems to be focusing on F1 and sports-related articles. At least CZ is more active now, but is it really worth it for just two editors?

August 2019[edit]

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It is now a full year since CZ last had a new user.

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Citizendium is back to two active users, Peter Jackson again and ‎Hayford Peirce who only edited to update the financial report.

July 2019[edit]

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5In the last 14 days, Peter Jackson has made 52 of the 53 edits.[5]
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4The first 23 days of July have been busy with nearly 4 edits a day on average! Peter Jackson made 72 of the 84 edits (86%), 47 of them (55% of the month's edits) to Pali Canon or subpages. Hans Addler (8 edits), Paul Wormer (3) and Martin Wyatt (1) are the others flogging the dead horse.[6]

June 2019[edit]

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3A whopping 18 edits made over the last seven days, new record! Screenshot here They also noticed the WP shitstorm over our status as a "notable" site, although they mistook us for an encyclopedia
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5Citizendium to be set up on a new server... eventually.
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7Our friend Pete continues to dominate the show, with all of the edits made from June 11th to June 18th (the date of the last edit) being made by his hand. [7][8]
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6It's the Peter Jackson show - 24 of the 29 edits so far in June have been made by Peter, Martin is in second place with a massive 3 edits while in joint third we have Stephen and John with 1 each.[9]
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8In the first six five months of the year, 0 edits have been made by editors identifying as female.[10]

May 2019[edit]

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7May on Citizendium:
  • Articles edited: 16 (including subpages and redirects)
  • New articles created: 0
  • Other pages edited: 7 (incuding user pages)
  • Images uploaded: 1 (Mandarin Pressed Duck) (the first new image since November[11])
  • Editors: 4 (Hayford, Peter, Martin, Phil)
  • New editors: 0

April 2019[edit]

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4Another $5 donation. Citizendium is raking in the big bucks.
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3The financial report shows no increase in the total funds column from December to January, even though a $30 donation was apparently received. Incredibly nitpicky, I know, but let's just see how long it takes to get fixed.
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11In the first 90 days of 2019 on Citizendium, there have been:
  • 0 new articles created
  • 1 other page created: Talk:Pali Canon/Citeable version (which basically says the citable version is wrong and should not be cited)
  • 2 articles moved: Republic of Macedonia → North Macedonia; Swaziland → Eswatini
  • 34 articles edited (including subpages). The most edited are: New Mexico State Wrestling Championships, Rio Rancho High School, Collected Editions of Shakespeare, United Kingdom exit from the European Union/Timelines‎ and William Shakespeare/Works
  • 9 editors: Peter, Martin, Hayford, Justin, David, Richard, Phil, John, Pradyumma
  • 0 new editors[12]
English Wikipedia's newest user with edits is 4 minutes old, all the other metrics have been exceeded in the last 1 minute.

March 2019[edit]

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8The absolutely critical update of a five-dollar donation to CZ is a third of the month's 6 edits.[1] John, Phil, and Martin seem to have returned to the graves from whence they came.

February 2019[edit]

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7"[T]his is a dead project and it's got no prospects of being otherwise." -Justin hits the nail on the head in a discussion about a cock-up in moving the article about North Macedonia.[13]
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6Citizendium currently has 4 users to have contributed in the past 30 days: Peter, John, Phil, and Martin. CZ is coming back to life...Do You Believe That?

January 2019: A Make-or-Break Year for Citizendium?[edit]

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12John Stephenson announces that Larry Sanger has stepped in as the project's "technical lead" - despite having not edited since September 2012.
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6Former Managing Editor Anthony Sebastian has died.img
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21CZ enters the final stage. Its heavyweight Peter Jackson with 26 edits over 11 days in the last month, vs featherweight Martin Wyatt with 6 edits on a single day last month. Will the last person out please remember to turn off the lights.
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20The CZ is starting 2019 with another new record. Only three active users left. They are: Phil Hermanns, Martin Wyatt and MVP Peter Jackson. Peter still remains the only user to edit since 13 December, almost three weeks ago at this stage.

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