Draft talk:Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations

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I think this page should have text --Edward the eight (talk) 19:30, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

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Trump child rape cases? Seriously? Aceⁱ⁹ 07:38, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

delete AMassiveGay (talk) 13:30, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Yeah. Potentially libelous. I don't think we need an AfD for deleting this one. I couldn't find anything reliable about this. GeeJayK^{Where all evil dwells} _{Where every lie is true} 14:53, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm actually surprised the Donald Trump article doesn't have a lot on Trump's sexual misconduct allegations considering the other Wiki has an entire article on it. I don't we need a full article here, but it's just surprising still (particularly given that the current bruhaha stems from the Stormy Daniels hush money payments.) For this article, the "child rape cases" is definitely hyperbole, I was under the impression that the Trump / Epstein allegations were very weaksauce. (Trump did brag to Howard Stern in 2005 about being a beauty pageant peeping tom so the Miss Teen USA pageant allegations I feel are entirely plausible. Peeping tom isn't the same thing as rape though, and why make a separate article when it can go in the main one?)BobJohnson (talk) 15:25, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

The material in this draft could very easily be added as a new subsection to the "Rhetoric, deceit and overall behaviour" section in Trump's main article. I don't like the title "Trump child rape cases" at all, though. Perhaps something snarky like "Creepy behavior" would work, and allow coverage of the stuff in the draft as well as the Stormy crap. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 15:39, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

OK, a section has been added. BobJohnson (talk) 19:17, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

The Creepy behavior section still makes no mention of Katie Johnson nor the two child rape suits which are a far cry from simply "creepy behavior". Enix150 (talk) 06:09, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

As mentioned elsewhere, I didn't add these cases because I personally think they are way too problematic cases to add at the moment. All these cases as far as I can tell have either been dismissed or dropped, and the lawsuit details themselves seem sketchy. The Snopes article here covers the "Katie Johnson" case as an example. If someone else wants to add them, fine, but the full scope and background would need to be included. BobJohnson (talk) 12:13, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

This page is still problematic

The title of the page says "child rape cases", but these are not proven in a court of law, are therefore only allegations, and not all of them are even rape allegations (arguably sexual harassment in the case of the dressing rooms). I don't think a page full of allegations is going to work at all, so unless you have some plan for fixing this page, it's going to get deleted again. Bongolian (talk) 05:18, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Bongolian Would "child sex crimes" be a more fitting title? I suppose it is technically more encompassing of all of his deeds. Enix150 (talk) 05:53, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

I'd go for "accusations" or "allegations". (If we keep it.) I don't think we can call it a "crime" if he's not been convicted of one. "Cases" seems to have a similar problem.Bob^{"Life is short and (insert adjective)"} 12:33, 24 March 2023 (UTC)