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Left communism | Result: Keep

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Delete

1. Not needed and superfluous Tuxer (talk) 17:40, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Keep

1. Not the best article but not a three-like stub, not completely off-mission. Christopher (talk) 17:45, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
2. Given rationale is too vague. Has cited sources, and topic is clearly notable since Marx himself saw it as a problem that could divide his "revolution". That being said, this article would need more criticisms in it though, as I think even many of our most leftist of editors might agree that this is a crank idea. --Goatspeed. _{Fossil evidence of my evolution}CircularRasoning^{See my latest prototypes} 17:47, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

   Let me get this straight: Anything that deviates too much from your precious liberal centrism is a "crank idea?" Thanks, I'll make sure to note that next time on why no one takes liberals seriously anymore. Menace (talk) 18:13, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

   If that's what you like to think --Goatspeed. _{Fossil evidence of my evolution}CircularRasoning^{See my latest prototypes} 18:58, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

   Nah, the non-Crank ideas are fairly widespread across the political spectrum, as are the Crank ones. The demarcation between "Crank" and "non-Crank" is when the person promotes the idea when there is either minimal evidence for it working or a large amount of evidence against the idea that the person ignores or actively tries to refute. Note that the idea itself doesn't have to be a "Crank" idea; there are indeed some strong arguments against nuclear power but most of the anti-nuke side is made up of Cranks who don't understand the whole issue, likewise the Thorium fanboys can come across as a bunch of Cranks in spite of the theories behind Thorium being reasonable. CorSock (talk) 19:13, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

   --Goatspeed. _{Fossil evidence of my evolution}CircularRasoning^{See my latest prototypes} 19:28, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

   What does "work" even mean? That's such an inherently vague term that it could mean any number of things. You're gonna have to narrow it down for us. The very phrase "work" implies a lot of assumptions that need to be justified and critically examined. Menace (talk) 08:39, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

3. -Flandres (talk) 18:23, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
4. Seems missional to me. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 18:23, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
5. Not a high quality article, but not exactly terrible. CorSock (talk) 19:13, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
6. Interesting historical concept, with at a glance it's own fair share of crankery. Obvious keep. Techpriest ^{(I am Alpharius! / / / )} 21:56, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
7. The Bolchevik party had the Right Opposition and the Left Opposition. Although I agree that there are more important articles than this one, I don't think it's useless. GeeJayK (talk) 18:54, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Merge/redirect

1. A redundant name, enough said. Merge with the main article on communism. MarioSuperstar77 (talk) 19:12, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

   The name sounds redundant if you’re not familiar with obscure communist factions, but left communism isn’t just a slightly wordier way of saying “communism”, it’s a fully fledged political ideology. Christopher (talk) 19:26, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Goat

Not familiar with the subject whatsoever, but from comments, I get the impression that this is a crank idea. But as a layperson, I struggle to see such substantial criticisms raised. Needs oversight to ensure the article progresses in a missional manner. Kauri0.o (talk) 22:46, 6 April 2021 (UTC)