RationalWiki:Articles for deletion/TFLism
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TFLism | Result: Move to draft[edit]
Delete[edit]
- Unlikely stub of dated manosphere term with a couple degrees too much charity for the concept ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 22:03, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Keep[edit]
- Give me some suggestions to change it and I will do it. Riptohelsinway (talk) 22:10, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
- That's fair. But I had a hard time imagining what those changes could be, which is why I proposed deletion. My biggest problems really are that it's a dead, almost never used term and the whole thing suits the Manosphere Glossary better. But also if it could be rewritten to give less credence to groups self-identifying as oppressed due to being lonely, it would be better. And definitely include less suspect etymology. But even then, I feel like it's not really appropriate as a separate article, no lasting value. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 22:30, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
- I've given it a shot. Riptohelsinway (talk) 23:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
- That's fair. But I had a hard time imagining what those changes could be, which is why I proposed deletion. My biggest problems really are that it's a dead, almost never used term and the whole thing suits the Manosphere Glossary better. But also if it could be rewritten to give less credence to groups self-identifying as oppressed due to being lonely, it would be better. And definitely include less suspect etymology. But even then, I feel like it's not really appropriate as a separate article, no lasting value. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 22:30, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Merge/redirect[edit]
- I think we should make it part of Incel#Coinage and Early History. It's a pretty significant overlap, and even the two terms, TFL and incel are very alike. --It's-a me,
🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 03:37, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- they're a bit different. TFL is mostly populated by ethnic minorities, particularly blacks as a Youtube search of "tue forced loneliness" shows. Secondly, TFL seems less focused on sex and more on relationships. Incel discussions seem a bit more clinical whilst TFL discussions seem a bit more interpersonal. The third difference is that TFL exists solely on youtube, whereas incels are all over the place. Riptohelsinway (talk) 04:11, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Merge would be better as per LGM. Bongolian (talk) 18:45, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Goat[edit]
Move it to draftspace until it's better, then it could be put in the manosphere dictionary. Don't think it should be its own page, though. Sᴘʀɪɢɢɪɴᴀ (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) (ᴄᴏɴᴛʀɪʙs) @ 23:29, 11 February 2019 (UTC)