RationalWiki:Chicken coop/Archive76

Jsolinksy

Don't know, don't care. But I'd rather not have this wiki descend into HCM. Ɖøn Ĵuan (talk) 11:04, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

There was a wee storm in a wee teacup earlier today. I think it's all over now. Dragging it up again isn't going to do any good at all. Just let it lie. Move along. There's nothing to see here. Spud (talk) 12:03, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

I didn't notice that, I'll delete this section, then. Ɖøn Ĵuan (talk) 12:18, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Apparently @Jsolinsky is back to add more shit to the fire, so I think this Coop section is necessary, if unwanted. Ɖøn Ĵuan (talk) 13:47, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Oh for mothershagging fuck's sake! Am I in the motherflippin wrong or not? I'm almost at my fucking limits for olive branch style discussion on this issue. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 14:23, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

I do believe you are in the wrong. Issue is your reversion of this edit: https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Noah_Carl&type=revision&diff=2022419&oldid=2019445 made three days after I left a comment explaining why it seems warranted. I'm not questioning your right to revert me, but rather your decision to do so without actually addressing the substance of the edit. Jsolinsky (talk) 14:30, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

@GrammarCommie It's evident that this user's been a problem for some time, if MtD's "greeting" to him on his talkpage is anything to go by. I say we bin him. Ɖøn Ĵuan (talk) 14:33, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

@Jsolinsky You had two wait at least three days? Oh the horror. I once had to wait 13 days to move an article, because I actually gave a damn about talkpage consensus. My heart goes out to you and your three bloody fucking days. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 14:41, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

@GrammarCommie So vandal bin it is then, or do we permaban him? Ɖøn Ĵuan (talk) 14:42, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

@Don Juan I don't flippin know. I tried to settle this without it turning into the kind of mess it is, and look how well that turned out. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 14:47, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

@GrammarCommie I think the standards for moving a page and removing a single defamatory point are different, as they should be. RW is full of edits similar in scope to the one I made that were made with zero waiting period at all. Jsolinsky (talk) 14:46, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

@Jsolinsky Calling Trump a moron could be construed as defamatory, that doesn't make it any less true if we can back it up with solid sources. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 14:49, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Well we can all agree on something: Trump is a moron. The edit in question is too technical for me to offer an opinion. There is an underlying principle buried here, and that is, "do claims relevant to identifying pseudoscience need to be justified on talk pages when they are challenged?" Again, I am no authority, but I would say yes. GC's reversion was apparently on the basis of not enough time has been given for relevant users weigh in. That is a good reason. Jsolinsky should move on to other articles while he waits. He should not edit war, and calm the fuck down.Ariel31459 (talk) 15:57, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

@Ariel31459 Alternatively they could try to draw attention to the thread in question with posts similar to "@userexample1 @userexample2 @userexample3, I think parts of this article might be incorrect and here's why. [source example 1][source example 2] [source example 3] All paint a picture counter to the one in the article and article source example 3 might be biased." I mean if you think your post has merit and deserves attention, bring attention to it. Think about the various choices, don't just set yourself down one path to the exclusion of all others. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 16:10, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Edit warring is a serious reason to give someone at least a short term block, but I`m withholding my actual opinion until the Mob has come into full force. Ɖøn Ĵuan (talk) 16:23, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I don't think this needs a prolonged coop, just calm down and bash Trump. — Dysk (contribs) 16:21, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but what the fuck is going on? RoninMacbeth (talk) 16:23, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Something concerning deleting a line on the Donald Trump article calling him a moron, claiming it was "defamation", and then an edit war ensued when that edit was reversed. Ɖøn Ĵuan (talk) 16:25, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

@Don Juan that isn't it at all. Check the talkpage for "all things in moderation" "Noah Carl" for more. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 16:40, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

@GrammarCommie Oh, thanks. I'll check it out in a bit. Ɖøn Ĵuan (talk) 16:49, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

I am just going to archive this now, carry on at the mod board if you must. — Dysk (contribs) 17:18, 16 December 2018 (UTC)