Talk:Bottled water
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May I direct your attention[edit]
Here? Thanks in advance. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 12:09, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Benefits of bottled water[edit]
The contents of the bottle can be drunk as and when required, and the bottle can be reused 'a number' of times. Canned drinks have to be consumed at the time of opening and the can cannot (pun intended) be reused by the consumer. 86.146.100.93 (talk) 12:37, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- That is a benefit of acquiring the bottle more than acquiring the mineral water inside. A disproportionally expensive bottle too. On the other hand, it is convenient that you can just buy bottled water whenever you're near a grocery store/vending machine/mountain vendor, so it has that over tap water. 171.33.193.245 (talk) 12:50, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- Besides, you can get other bottled drinks, which also have the same function. That being said, bottled water has no caloric penalty compared to most other bottled drinks, but if you're buying bottled water, you might as well just get your own portable drink container and fill that up at home. In my own opinion, if you're buying a bottled beverage, it might as well be something you can't get for cheaper at home like cola or even that Lipson crap. --It's-a me,
🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 02:54, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
- The article #is# about bottled water (with or without gas) rather than 'water with some colourings, flavourings, (compressed gas), various chemicals denounced by people with more or less scientific reasoning, and often a lot of sugar.'
- Besides, you can get other bottled drinks, which also have the same function. That being said, bottled water has no caloric penalty compared to most other bottled drinks, but if you're buying bottled water, you might as well just get your own portable drink container and fill that up at home. In my own opinion, if you're buying a bottled beverage, it might as well be something you can't get for cheaper at home like cola or even that Lipson crap. --It's-a me,
As other IP says, bottles have some benefits over cans. 86.191.125.136 (talk) 10:24, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
Help![edit]
Can you guys look around to find a source for this claim? I've looked and seen it all over the place but no site will cite a source for it.
"In one case, a brand of bottled water, advertised as “pure, glacier water,” was found to be taken from a municipal water supply while another brand, flaunted as “spring water,” was pumped from a water source next to a hazardous waste dumping site."
See here, [www.freedrinkingwater.com/water-bottled-unsafe-drinking.htm here], and here for the claims. While I would love to put this in the article, without a genuine source for the information I don't think we can do it. #Can'tComeUpWithACleverSignature 15:26, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
- Maybe you can source it here and place Better source after it so at least we have something on there. --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 18:12, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
How far from silver?[edit]
The article looks fine, but how much farther until silver, or is it there?—Hamburguesa con queso con un cara 
(talk • stalk) 02:14, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- My suggestions:
- Expand the contaminants, environmental impact, and plastic leakage sections
- Make sure that each section includes a comparison with tap water (eg: tap water has X contaminations per 1000 liters, bottled has Y -- or something similar)
- Change all direct links to references
- Tone back the FDA-hate: It's not like they want to be un-thorough. Instead, they're usually (1) underfunded -- tests cost money! -- or (2) restricted to the least burdensome regulations on industry possible. Both are ultimately thanks to Congress. (It's a bit like attacking the Department of Transportation for America's shitty infrastructure. DOT is in charge of maintaining the roads, but their purse is defined by Congress.)
- oʇɐʇoԀʇɐϽʎzznℲ (talk/stalk) 02:39, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- I agree with all those points.
—Hamburguesa con queso con un cara 
(talk • stalk) 03:56, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- I agree with all those points.
Plastic leaching and cancer[edit]
These are my findings from my research, which I happened to be writing at the same time as FCP's edit:
According to the grape vine, frozen bottled water releases carcinogenic dioxins, reusing water bottles releases carcinogenic DEHA, and heating bottled water releases a Bisphenol A, a synthetic estrogen that causes breasts cancer and hormone issues. None of these claims are actually true, expect for the last one, kind of.[1]
The health scare about heated water bottles was partly feuled from journalists taking a 2014 study by the University of Florida out of context.[2][3] The study shows two issues:[4][5] [6]
- The study was actually conducted in China by Chinese students who sampled Chinese water bottles.
- The finding of the study reported water within the correct ranges of water standards.
I realize that this [1] source exists too. Do note: the Chinese study found referenced on numerous sites, but the URL was changed so I had to do a lot of looking around to find it. This study is used by numerous websites to show bottled water is unsafe, when in reality the websites are taking the study out of context. So please keep that content in there.—Hamburguesa con queso con un cara (talk • stalk) 03:48, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- ↑ Reuse of Plastic Bottles: Does reusing or freezing plastic water bottles cause them to break down into dioxins or carcinogenic compounds?[a w]
- ↑ Effects of storage temperature and duration on release of antimony and bisphenol A from polyethylene terephthalate drinking water bottles of China[a w] (The study was originally located here). Study conducted by Ying-Ying Fan, Jian-Lun Zheng, Jing-Hua Ren, Jun Luo, Xin-Yi Cui, and Lena Q. Ma
- ↑ http://www.bottledwatermatters.org/article/chinese-bottled-water-study-misrepresents-facts
- ↑ Chinese Bottled Water Study Misrepresents Facts
- ↑ http://www.9news.com/news/local/verify/verify-is-it-dangerous-to-drink-bottled-water-thats-been-sitting-in-a-hot-car/455231692
- ↑ http://www.wfmynews2.com/news/local/2-wants-to-know/verify-is-it-dangerous-to-drink-bottled-water-thats-been-sitting-in-a-hot-car/455022712
Americo-centric view[edit]
My main problem with this article is that it's really only true for developed nations, and doesn't consider the fact that tap water in many delevoping countries is far from safe and definitely has an inferior taste (unless you like the taste of metal and mold). I live in India and I wouldn't drink tap water even with a purifier. 2405:204:962F:78CB:B095:6E96:DA55:4FA (talk) 13:05, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
- I do agree with you but I'm not all that well-versed with water conditions in other countries hence why I'm not contributing to there; I live in the US so we write US stuff, with the sole exception of Russia stuff because I like Russia and I enjoy writing about it. БaбyЛuigiOнФire🚓(T|C) 04:02, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Fiji[edit]
It amuses me that all of the scathing images and captions use Fiji water bottles. БaбyЛuigiOнФire🚓(T|C) 03:49, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- I just noticed, made my day :D 171.33.193.245 (talk) 16:48, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
Very US-centric[edit]
A lot of issues with this article:
- Big US bias. As I understand US bottled water is usually much inferior to the European varieties.
- In many parts of the world you don't want to drink the tap water. Even somewhere like London, the stuff tastes vile. Elsewhere it will make you sick.
I'm lucky where I live - tap water is decent.-Albannach (talk) 14:03, 27 August 2021 (UTC)