Talk:Haggard's Law

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Sorry, still somewhat new to the wiki. Sources:,, Is that enough? Arawn Emrys (talk)

Why is this phenomenon not seen in other forms of bigotry?[edit]

You'd think, for example, that'd there'd also be a trend of militant Islamophobes getting caught face-deep in a prayer rug.Skadooshbag (talk) 06:06, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

I can't give any specific examples, but one of my friends who engages with reactionaries/neo-Nazis has noted that many of them show signs of AMAB gender dysphoria, and likely got caught in the hyper-masculine, transphobic Alt-Right pipeline as a substitution for actual gender therapy. SonOfStranger (talk) 15:28, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Another one[edit]

Can someone who's better at editing wikis add this to the article?

list of examples[edit]

Stop. adding. examples. there is enough already. way too many. and many of dubious merit, many of which barely hint at the supposed homophobia and supposed gay activities not actually gay (autoerotic asphyxiation for example), or jumps to concluding homosexuality on the flimsiest of evidence (eg. a man briefly appeared on a politicians zoom meeting beside them and appeared to not be wearing a shirt!!!), i do not think politicians known to be gay getting caught being gay counts as harbouring secret desires (they caught fleeing a gay party), neither does ex gays relapsing, or loudly proclaiming themselves their past homosexuality. if we must have a list like this, the homophobia should be more than 'meh' and their fall from grace should be more than slight. voting against a particular law or laws does not on its own qualify. preaching against sin and then getting caught sinning doesnt qualify on its own

aside from anything else, while a couple of relevent examples might have been fine in illustrating a dumb internet law, not an unending list of example after example of gleefully gloating over closeted men struggling with their sexuality. we can highlight hypocrisy without mocking their struggles or reveling in the salacious details

Also, child molestation is not the same as homosexuality. paedahilia is not the same as homosexuality. please stop conflating themAMassiveGay (talk) 14:29, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

We can do better than that and annihilate the entire list. I hate these "cases I think are cool and you should know about them too!" listicles so much... GeeJayK (talk) 14:33, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
Like those maligned trivia sections, these lists, when intended to be selective, always seem to invite low effort drive-bys to constantly tack on miscellaneous information. I'd still keep a few examples. Overalll though, this law always seemed to me to be confirmation bias and invites people to scrutinize homophobes' sex lives. We have better things to do than that, geez. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 14:48, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
You're right. Removing the entire list is an overkill. I think we can do like we did on the fictional examples list on the Totalitarianism article (although I should mention that the list is already growing only a few months we've purged most of the titles from it). GeeJayK (talk) 14:52, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
Again something about lists always seem to get people wanting to list every single thing they know, especially from media they enjoy. I guess it's because the effort involved is soooo low. Buuut that doesn't mean we should remove all lists, just monitor them more. Like trivia sections. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 01:51, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
i was gonna suggest some kind of limit to how many items we can have in a list for these articles or something to make someone consider why an item needs including, but i dunno. i shouldnt be stressing over this stuff. i dont like this article for a lot of reasons, the list just the easier fix and outlet for venting. it baffles me that folk can still keeping adding and adding stuff and never think 'holy shit balls thats a long list, maybe i should stop now.' is it like meth when you keep hitting the pipe even when patently obvious that maybe you should've called it a night 2 days ago? if you have a list addiction stay well awayfrom meth, you'd go fucking mad for it. AMassiveGay (talk) 12:42, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Yeah. I removed the list. Basically removed the shaky ones, the sexual abuse, and will likely remove the "he was browsing gay porn" bit as that's not necessarily an indicator of gayness. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 18:11, 2 October 2021 (UTC)


Are there any female examples of this?2600:4040:475E:F600:8C4B:8571:6CF6:38EC (talk) 01:25, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

There are now. Chillpilled (talk) 14:30, 12 December 2023 (UTC)