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Educational porn, not just sex ed[edit]

Is there such a thing; porn that teaches you various academic subjects? It makes as much sense as a video game that teaches history or chemistry. The method of loci says to use emotionally engaging imagery which is normally sex or violence.; and violence has been done to death. Amateur Encyclopedist (talk) 23:18, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Naomi Wolf and Feministing?[edit]

I'd hardly consider Naomi Wolf one of "the third wave's most respected figures" today. She may have been a leading spokesperson at one time, but now, she seems more of a contrarian, a sort of Camille Paglia-lite. Her opposition to porn is described by her Wikipedia page as being "not on moral grounds, but because 'greater supply of the stimulant equals diminished capacity.'" She's also said some odd things about abortion and sexual assault, and I'm not sure if her position on this issue should be used as a barometer for a resurgence of anti-porn sentiment in mainstream feminism. Also, Feministing is a blog with many contributors espousing a diverse set of opinions. If there's any evidence that the blog has adopted this as an official position, feel free to present it, but I can't find any on the site. The One They Call Mars (talk) 21:25, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Don't know enough about Wolf to comment. I don't know if Feministing has an official opinion on the topic, but the consensus opinion doesn't seem to be anti-porn as I would use that label. I would reserve "anti-porn" for someone who thinks porn is inevitably bad, or who thinks the idea of pornography is bad (or who claims to believe good porn is possible but cannot point to one even hypothetical example). I've seen writers at the site voice objections to common practices within the industry and tropes in pornography itself, but one doesn't have to be anti-porn to do that. <3 CSapphire bullets of pure love 05:06, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Porn opposition[edit]

Anyone else feel like we could use a Opposition to pornography article that sums up the various objections? I feel like we could put a few megs worth of information on just the various movements and efforts (Fight The New Drug, End Porn By Wire, SWERFs, religious objections, etc) and why they're bullshit, which would be different than the bullshit directly related to porn. --Seth Peck (talk) 16:47, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

I dunno man. The porn industry is a nasty piece of work & a lot of the objections to it are valid. I wouldn't go to any lengths to defend it. Some of these organisations/movements you mention might be relevant to our missions in their own right. ŴêâŝêîôîďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 17:34, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Essay:Pornography_Is_Good Burkean (talk) 22:29, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, like I said originally, not to defend pornography, but to talk about the various problems with its opposition. Maybe anti-pornography efforts or something? I'm not sure they're each individually worthy of an article, but I suppose they could be. --Seth Peck (talk) 18:41, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

For anyone interested in porn[edit]

I highly recommend everyone interested to check out this free Audible original: The Butterfly Effect — Who Really Pays The Price For Free Porn? by the tremendous journalist Jon RonsonWikipedia's W.svg. It's free on Audible until October-something, so hurry and check it out today! Reverend Black Percy (talk) 20:04, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Tried to listen but got a server error. With Firefox's "inspect elements" right click option, one could download the audio stream. This is for advanced users though., but it’s the same way you can download soundcloud music.—€h33s3βurg3rF@€3 Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk) 20:54, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
@CheeseburgerFace I'd advise you to just get the free Audible app on your smartphone and listen there. Seriously, you don't wanna miss The Butterfly Effect. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 12:55, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Pornography as addiction[edit]

I was recently alerted to this study:

Neuroscience of Internet Pornography Addiction: A Review and Update.

And this book:

https://books.google.com/books?id=MTDJCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA27&lpg=PA27&sig=WHinm3ajo0zUW-Qfc_CwgbYm5vo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjBx8_52ezXAhUCPN8KHRyJArQQ6AEIWTAI#v=onepage&q=experts%20considered%20a%20proposed&f=false

We should incorporate these results. Mʀ. Wʜɪsᴋᴇʀs, Esϙᴜɪʀᴇ (talk/stalk) 02:38, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Empowerment[edit]

I think this quote should be removed: "Look, if posing naked were empowering, then the rich men who run the world would be lining up for it. We would be awash in naked dick shots of Warren Buffet and Bill Gates and Barack Obama; magazines would be filled with male politicians and financiers and moguls with their bits hanging out. Softly lit, perhaps; head coyly tilted, bunny tail on the ass. Power."

It's a gross oversimplification. If I thought for a hot second that I could make women lose their damn minds by posing naked for magazines or wearing revealing clothing, you better believe I would, and I would absolutely consider it power. When you have something people want, that is power. The fact is, women and men have different reactions. We can deconstruct why, but I think we can all agree it's so. And the naked fact (sorry, couldn't resist) is, when society tries to stop you from expressing your sexuality and shames you if they fail, expressing your sexuality is an act of rebellion. You claim power over your body and what you do with it. It's not necessarily power over other people, but it is power over yourself. Your choices.

I trust I've made my point. The quote above isn't the mic-drop moment the person who wrote it imagines it is. --ShorinBJ (talk) 00:29, 22 July 2019 (UTC)