Talk:Steve Sailer

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Living person, guys[edit]

I see a whole lot of valid descriptions but not a whole lot of sources... Reverend Black Percy (talk) 18:46, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

robert lindsay[edit] The difference between Sailer and me is that Sailer is a conservative Republican. There’s nothing for Blacks in conservative Republicanism. You can even see it as a Black-hostile politics, though this is often masked. Since the election of Obama though, it is increasingly out in the open. For a long time I defended Sailer on the charge of racism, because I honestly did not think he was racist. Since the election of Obama, he has frankly gone over the line. Someone like me does not toss around the charge of racism lightly. I think long and hard before I call someone that. But in the last couple of years, yes, I must call Steve Sailer a racist. Robert Lindsay

 August 16, 2015 at 9:04 AM	
Conservatives love to “blame the niggers” every chance they get. Usually the Republican Party itself keeps out of this sleaze and in general, the Party did not talk this line very much, but it was splayed all over the base. “Race realist” (not racist, mind you!) Steve Sailer, Republican Party operative, was one of the major people pushing this lie. American Renaissance pushed it too, to their eternal discredit. But Amren blames Black people for everything. I am sure if they could figure out a way to blame Blacks for death and taxes, Amren would do it.

Reply— Unsigned, by: / talk 09:47, 2 December 2017

[1], "Niggers and Beaners" Destroyed the Economy... Steve Sailer, Republican Party operative, was one of the major people pushing this lie. [2], "For a long time I defended Sailer on the charge of racism, because I honestly did not think he was racist. Since the election of Obama, he has frankly gone over the line." ??????????????? (talk) 02:15, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

needs to be updated[edit]

whole thing needs a rewrite, I'll be doing it in next few days.Octo (talk) 22:06, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Experts think that Steve Sailer's blog is the most accurate media news source relating intelligence testing[edit]

See here: You guys have no clue about race and intelligence... — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs

Getting the endorsement of a notorious racist shit-head isn't the positive thing you think it is. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 20:15, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
So the 200+ intelligence researchers who responded to the survey are "racist shit-heads". *rolls eyes* — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs 21:52, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Argumentum ad populum, yawn. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 22:00, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
not understanding Argumentum ad populum* I don't have the time to explain everything but here's why Sailer's views on race and intelligence are closer to the truth than yours: — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs
Then make time. I'm not watching some Vlog post. Either you explain or you don't, simple as that. And for the record, I never stated what my views were, so, yeah, you can't make jack in the way of statement for or against them, since you don't even know what they are. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 04:57, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
You guys ever get tired of sharing this race and IQ rubbish? I'm sick of seeing Emil Kirky Guard this, Kirky Guard that, Kirky Guard everywhere. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 05:01, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

I'm not gonna lie[edit]

The drop of accusations in the opening line of this article is really problematic. It's not sourced nor covered during the article and it does look like a parody. I didn't check the fossil record, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually written by a troll. I think it should be substancially reduced at least. GeeJayK (talk) 14:31, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

@GeeJayK I checked the fossil record. The opening sentence has been largely the same since 2014; much of it was put in place by the creator of the article, and much of the rest was added by this BoN about two months later, in a series of edits with the only edit summary being "more powerful". 𝒮𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓃𝑒 talk 23:54, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
It probably could be toned down but my first impression is a lot of it is probably true. Steve Sailer is widely credited with coining the term "human biodiversity" (1), was noted as a white supremacist in the CJR (2), and has a still-very-active blog at The Unz Review. First impression of the blog is largely Ann Coulter rants with quite a bit more intellectual puff, slightly more what about the black crime?! racism posts, and occasional sprinklings of weird takes on high art ("alpha male" director Stanley Kubrick?). He has tweeted about a "LGBT recruitment drive" and blogged about the "transgender lobby", blogged that Hilary Clinton was a lesbian, tends to have traditionalist views on gender, and has peculiar views on Islam history and Islam and violence. The only one I really haven't found in short searches is anti-Semitism, although some of those categories are repetitive and also can be taken out. Sure, it's fluffed up in intellectual pomp instead of the 4Chan style "fuck Black Lives Matter" crap, but it's still a bunch of racist "human biodiversity" bullshit. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 01:31, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
@PanGalacticGargleBlasterI think it should be diluted in the article then. I didn't know this guy before you-know-who bumped it, but the opening sentence was really weird in my opinion. Writing about his prejudices on the article, with souces, is the way to go. Can you do this? I probably won't have time until the end of the month, at least GeeJayK (talk) 02:20, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, I'll try and give it a go, maybe tomorrow. It's definitely more free-wheelin' unsourced old-days RW, which is not so good when you are dealing with a living person. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 02:23, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Made a start; might add more tomorrow on some of the noxiousness in his blog. PanGalacticGargleBlaster (talk) 03:13, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Race and intelligence on Wikipedia and David Gerard[edit]


I just added a small section on this. Sailer wrote the following article:

What's odd is he relates @David Gerard to the race and intelligenceWikipedia article on Wikipedia yet I viewed the edit history and it shows Gerard has never once edited it.

It seems these far-right trolls are making up nonsense about Gerard. They are blaming him for having censored certain viewpoints on the race and intelligence article despite I could not find a single edit he made there having looked at the last 10,000 edits going back to 2006. (talk) 15:54, 12 July 2024 (UTC)