Talk:Tommy Robinson

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Underage twitter handle

The image for the 2012 attempts to censor the name of the minor named but fails to censor the mentions of the same name. Shouldn't the handle be censored in every mention? — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 18:04, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

I believe so. --It's-a me, 🎄LeftyGreenMario!🎄 18:33, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

To be clear, I am talking about: — Godless Raven ^talk_stalk^walk_balk 🌹 18:45, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Islamophobe template

Saw this one user (with a silly username) add the template, with another user removing it. Why would it not fit in this article? --85.76.147.218 (talk) 20:14, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

We normally use only one navigation template per page. The Alt-right one covers the subject better than the Islamaphobia one, in my opinion, so I replaced it. You'll notice that the article is still tagged in the Islamophobia category. Sincerely, the one with the silly username —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 21:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Eh, okay. (I didn't actually mean you with that lol) --85.76.147.218 (talk) 21:30, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Oh, you meant User:Iwillprobablygetbanned? Yeah, there's a lot of silly user names here. —cosmikdebris ^talk stalk 21:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Aye, them. --85.76.147.218 (talk) 21:53, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@Cosmikdebris The Alt-right is antisemitic, Tommy Robinson isn‘t. That‘s why I think he isn‘t Alt-right. Iwillprobablygetbanned (Talk to me!) 11:00, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

I don’t think that the alt-right is necessarily antisemitic, as it is a very broad movement and I see it falling into two separate views on that topic: Those following the more classical Neo-Nazi view are, of course, extremely antisemitic, while those who focus more on Islamophobia tend to be very pro-Israel (as in “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” and they also see Israel as basically a model for an ethno state) and in Europe, the latter strain seems to me to be more dominant. ScepticWombat (talk) 17:03, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@ScepticWombat The last description would rather fit into the New Right (Europe) (Geert Wilders e.g.) than the alt-right like Richard Spencer. Iwillprobablygetbanned (Talk to me!) 18:46, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

I’d disagree with that, depending on exactly how you define the New Right and where you draw the distinction between it and the alt-right.

If you define the New Right mainly in terms of the Nouvelle Droite derived style “intellectualism”, then you’ll end up with something more like Generation Identity and I don’t think that Robinson fits well within this “intellectualistic” style (references to “high culture” and positioning yourself as a sort of intellectual, cultural critic), but that he instead is a lot closer to the style of the alt-right (meme driven YouTube activism).

Basically, I think that there are important differences in style and positioning, as well as in strictly ideological contents, that need to be considered when drawing such distinctions, because these choices also matter, as it makes a difference whether you essentially try to present a “populist” image (alt-right) or an “elitist’ one (Generation Identity). ScepticWombat (talk) 19:26, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

PS, I’ve undone your changes to New Right (Europe), since they completely ignored the involvement of the Islamic Party of Britain, which makes the Islamophobic label problematic. It may be that your changes have merit, but at least have the courtesy of raising your concerns on the article talk page (as you very appropriately did here) before changing categorisations 180 degrees from Islamic extremism to Islamophobia. ScepticWombat (talk) 19:37, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Lots more details…

…of the criminal micromind's “done nuffink wrong!!” activities here: https://www.the32ndfloor.com/trackers/the-life-crimes-of-tommy-robinson I'm pretty sure he contrived to get himself arrested in Switzerland too, but my Google-fu is playing up again It's in the article wot I just linked to – 2011, £3000 quid fine and three days in chokey for a rooftop protest at FIFA's Zürich HQ following a ruling that England’s foopball team could not wear the poppy symbol on their shirts. Mr Larrington (talk) 00:32, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Recent History

The man keeps active: Tommy Robinson 'arrested under anti-terrorism laws' following London and Tommy Robinson arrested over suspected immigration offence in Canada ~Hidden User (Please don't throw my IP into here) ^{— Unsigned, by: 87.227.25.236 / talk}

Use names

So why so many use-names, and what does it say about him? Anna Livia (talk) 19:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

it says hes got an established history of far right groups and football hooligans and criminal record that he wanted to keep quiet his murky past and associations spoiling his attempted ordinary man of people image and not show him to be the hate filled cunt he is. plausible deniability and makesit difficult to pin previous activities on him. it also makes it difficult for the groups that track and monitor far right groups to see how far right groups are forming and being run and by who. it makes them very opaque hiding the scale of their problem and hiding the fact they are a very incestuous world and often all organised by the same small group of people. considering it his habit of doxing people and slandering people to incite hate against them and make them feel unsafe, hes is well aware of the safety false identities can provide someone in his position. probably helps when committing fraud too AMassiveGay (talk) 19:50, 28 July 2024 (UTC)