User talk:Ebon

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Greetings, Ebon, and welcome to the timidly burglarizeing daffodil! Thank you for joining us! I hope you enjoy your time here. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 01:49, 12 February 2009 (EST)

• Thanks for the welcome! I shall be sure to act as a good example (or, at least, a terrible warning) Ebon 01:52, 12 February 2009 (EST)

Your welcome! Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 01:55, 12 February 2009 (EST)

Luciferian Satanist

Mind if I ask a bit about this?--Tom Moore^{fiat justitia ruat coelum} 02:03, 12 February 2009 (EST)

No problem. In broad terms, it's a form of maltheism which posits that there is a god, that he/she/it is a malevolent entity who created mankind (it's generally accepted that evolution was used but it's ultimatly irrelevant to the point) for the purpose of having something to torture and that a creation of that god (whom we call Lucifer) mounted a morally correct rebellion against a tyrannical ruler. Most of us use Christian terminology simply because that's the terminology we're most familar with. Obviously, as with any faith, different believers have slightly different interpretations. No holy book in the normal sense but there are various influential works such as The Devil's Apocrypha and the Al-Jilwah.

So yes, we worship a literal devil and no, it's not what people think. We don't abuse or sacrifice anything (beyond the occasional symbolic pinch of herbs), don't proselytise, don't generally commit many crimes and the orgies are entirely optional.Ebon 02:15, 12 February 2009 (EST)

Why do you think these things are true?--Tom Moore^{fiat justitia ruat coelum} 02:22, 12 February 2009 (EST)

Same reason any believer believes anything, faith. It explains a lot about the world around me and the teachings make sense as a way to live one's life (and would remain so even if the deity was absent) but in the end, it's about faith. I fully accept that my faith cannot be proven (nor would I try) and should not be taught in schools (except perhap in a comparative religion class). Nor is it about converting anyone else, this is my path. Whether it's anyone else's is up to them. Ebon 02:28, 12 February 2009 (EST)

Okeydokey. Just curious. When it comes to the mainstream religions, it's pretty easy to see how tradition and upbringing and society can put a person into the faith mindset. With a counterculture thing like Satanism, though, I've never understood the draw.--Tom Moore^{fiat justitia ruat coelum} 02:31, 12 February 2009 (EST)

I suppose it's a little like evaluating music. One can talk about the technical skill or the worthy themes or the admirable composition but in the end, it either makes you want to dance or it doesn't. If a faith calls to you, it simply does. It can't be explained (or at least, I can't explain it), it just is. --Ebon 05:31, 12 February 2009 (EST)

You sure the orgies are merely optional? : D Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 05:40, 12 February 2009 (EST)

To my chagrin. Perhaps I should have phrased that differently... --Ebon 05:42, 12 February 2009 (EST)

Sysop

Congratulations son, you made the team. Please report to the department of liberal indoctrination for your power tools and policy briefings. Ŵêâŝêîôîď^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 14:19, 23 February 2009 (EST)

• What, who, where, how? I made SysOP, I was being considered for SysOp? --Ebon 14:25, 23 February 2009 (EST)

Almost everyone who isn't a vandal or troll is made a sysop. Time word Phantom Hoover! 14:28, 23 February 2009 (EST)

Ah, that would explain it. Still, I'm surprised, given that I'm a theist. --Ebon 14:48, 23 February 2009 (EST)

We don't discriminate based on people's beliefs; if you want to be persecuted, go to somewhere like Internet Infidels. AKjeldsen and Pink are both bureaucrats and theists. Time word Phantom Hoover! 14:53, 23 February 2009 (EST)

I doubt many people want to be persecuted, some of us are just paranoid like that --Ebon 15:01, 23 February 2009 (EST)

I don't quite know where you got that impression from; in the community standards it says that we aren't an atheist site. Time word Phantom Hoover! 15:27, 23 February 2009 (EST)

Dude, I'm paranoid. Or it might have been the article on faith. --Ebon 15:31, 23 February 2009 (EST)

A lot of the articles have a rationalist/atheist slant, but we don't care about your religion, so long as you don't force it on others. Time word Phantom Hoover! 15:33, 23 February 2009 (EST)

Proselytizing is actively discouraged in my faith (I believe we're actually unique in that) --Ebon 15:34, 23 February 2009 (EST)

Judaism, for one, is non-proselytising. Time word Phantom Hoover! 15:40, 23 February 2009 (EST)

Really? I thought they simply didn't bother rather than being actively discouraged. Interesting, thanks. --Ebon 16:53, 23 February 2009 (EST)