# User talk:Javascap/Archive 2

## Sorry to bother you...

Can I ask you to rename me "Alexa" and leave off the "J"? (P.S.) The "new messages" on your talk page logged me out, second, how did you get the font on this page? AlexaJ 23:23, 18 September 2008 (EDT)

AlexaJ, soon to be Alexa, I can indeed rename you. In answer to your P.S, the "new messsages" box is a prank that I set up. Gotcha =). Second, to get this text, I used <font color="black" face="Monotype Corsiva" size = "3"> Just wait while I rename you. JÁνąŞ₡Ωp Talk to ME BAN SOMEONE! MOWSE!
JASLEKSA, then? OK... ħuman 00:03, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

## Not cool

Why did you delete my user page? http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=&page=User%3ABeastmasterGeneral BeastmasterGeneral 09:03, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

Hm? Oh crap O_O. Well, I suppose the short story would be this, I was on a mop and dust spree cleaning up RW, and I suppose I accidentally wiped your page. It did say in the edit summary "Someone delete this page please" so... I followed through. Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing!

## OOB

Okay, lets talk, whats the evidence? I am intrigued because you brought it up in terms of a cognitive psych class. tmtoulouse 14:50, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

## winning a debate with a creationist

I moved your winning a debate with a creationist thingy to the essay namespace. Could you delete the redirect when you're ready? Cheers. --JeevesMkII 10:31, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Will do, just adding a fre touches before I remove it. Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing!

## Announcement

Allow me to be the first to congratulate you on your announcement. Welcome to the Dark Side, oh newly deconverted one! CSimpacted with knowledge 22:03, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

I would think that, naturally, in the complete absence of a "light side" to compare to the "dark side" it would be more of a "semi-gray side"? Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing!

I struggled for many years with how to present my beliefs to the outside world, particularly family. I started by slowly introducing concept of skepticism into my conversations with them, sometime not about religion at all. Once they were used to thinking about my general skepticism towards paranormal, mysticism and general spirituality the revelation of atheism wasn't so harsh for them to take.

Beyond my family the whole "outside" world presents a conundrum. The easiest thing to do to get along is just not talk about it at all, even if pressed. If really pressed I used to only admit to a form of agnosticism. It was just easier than the debate or whatever you want to call it that ensues in day to day encounters. I enjoy structured debate on my own time. Hence the internet, it is great. But I really do not feel like getting into a debate with my barber or some guy at a bar.

With in the last 1-2 years though I have started to shift form that perspective. It is more about wanting to stand up and demonstrate to the world that atheism is far more common than they are led to believe. I am much more open about it, and more willing to engage in conversation about it. It works great in Canada, back home though in the States it has been a mixed result. --Tmtoulouse 23:38, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for the advice, Tmtoulouse. If I may point out, I generally don't debate my barber, as such a debate can leave you in a somewhat compromised posistion... Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing!
Hm. Interesting, Tmtoulouse. I'm kind of surprised you chose to share this story so out of the blue. I would've liked to have heard it earlier; I enjoy hearing such things. Don't take that the wrong way. Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 23:57, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

## Powerz?

I can haz powerz back now plz? DickTurpis 22:44, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

I was about to give them back to you when I finished banhammering everyone... but you already went to Kels, so... meh. Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing!
Yes Kels is better person than U. And iz grrl too. DickTurpis 23:25, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
And haz no weird fonts and floating boxen. DickTurpis 23:25, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
Would you like me to create a floating box that follows you eveywhere? Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing!
I says "Thanx but no thanx on that box to nowhere." DickTurpis 23:28, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
Hehe he. Fair enough. By the way, your complaint about the font has been observed, and is now a vivid colour of Green. Enjoy =) Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing!

## Intestinal blockages

You do realize I already blocked all sysops in alphabetical (and ascending numerical, by minutes) order a few months ago, yes? Yer stealin' my bit! --Kels 23:04, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

Well, I didn't know you blocked everyone... but as you did, I guess it was overdue for another sysop to remove everyone ;) Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing!

## Deconversion

Do your Real Life friends and family know yet? Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 23:31, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

Nope, none of them yet. I am planning on telling them around Thanksgiving, but I don't think they will take it lightly. My closest friend does know, and as does my roommate, but aside from that, nobody else. Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing!

## Random words

[1] You know, we also have a template:location to say things like "about". Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 00:58, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

And I am tickled pink that you like my random word templates. : ) Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 00:58, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

And I am glad to see you like the userbox I made with the templates you made =). I did take a look at the location template, and I honestly cannot think of a way to squeeze it in without the userbox becoming shoddily long. (While it is random, every now and then I do get a string of words that extend the userbox quite a bit. I am thinking of making "User Insane2", which would have "location". Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing!

## Moar deconversion

You said on my talk page, "Well, Human, I have just joined the ranks of atheists... now how do I manage this thing? Any hints or words of advice from an experienced atheist?" In reality you're on your own. We don't have a dogma, or rules, we only have in common that we don't believe in any gods. How we move beyond the time when we make that known to ourselves is pretty much a personal process. For me, I still enjoy stuff that can't be explained - but I don't think I have an explanation for it. Does that make any sense?

Like, let's say for the silly, I hear rocks or trees talking to me. To me, that is personal, and not part of "how the world works". In other words, it's my own trip, and there is now god or gods behind it, it's just a "wow" experience. I don't try to explain it in supernatural ways, mostly I think it's just part of being a chunk of meat.

Do I worry about "death" or other things like that? No, I just hope that my life is worth living, and that I enjoy of it what I can. Then the worms eat me ;)

Any more questions I will gladly mislead you with answers for. ħuman 02:21, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

I know the flashing mowse is cool and all, but it irritates the hell out of me on talk pages where you have commented several times. No complaint about your comments, but that fucking flashing mowse gets on my last fucking nerve. No offense intended with my flashy language ;) ħuman 23:57, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

Dear Human, as per your suggestion, I have gathered that you do not see enough of the mowse to have learned to love him. Hence, he is taking a prominant space on my user talk page. Look at him go!!! Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing!

## Town Crier?

What's that? PFoster 22:55, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

That... is an excellent question. And it deserves an excellent answer I am either unable or unwilling to provide at this time. Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing! (P.S, I don't know what a town crier is either)
Ha Ha. Very Funny. Vandal. I'll Vandalize You. PFoster 23:06, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

## Deletion

Could you tell me why you deleted my articles? They did not exist so I created them. Thanks.--Herbert the Hamster 17:48, 3 December 2008 (EST)

I deleted the articles as they had little to do with our mission statement in this wiki. We are not wikipedia, so for the most part, we stick to science and politics. You can find more information in the Newcomers Guide. Hope this helps. Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing!

## Herbert the Hamster

Java: you've upset a harmless little Hampster without telling him why.and marmite 02:32, 4 December 2008 (EST)

Hello Javascap. Thank you for pointing out the guide, it explains many things. It would have been nice if somebody had pointed it out before removing my articles. I'm still not sure why you used the vandal brake on me though. I'm not looking for a fight, I'd just like to understand the rules. Could you also explain why you (or somebody) deleted, for example, "Chlorophyll"? It was only a stub, but I would have expanded it if you'd asked. I see there is an article "carbon".--Herbert the Hamster 03:30, 4 December 2008 (EST)
I do deeply apologise for my mistake in vandal breaking you (probabally had something to do with my remarkable lack of sleep that day, so I jumped the gun on the vandal break. As for the Chlorophyll, I do not know if I deleted that... let me check that out, be right back. Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing!

## Block

I missed it! Off brewing coffee - wanna do it again so I can be all annoyed? and marmite 10:39, 6 December 2008 (EST)

## I'm going to kill you, sorry

Nothing personal, but I swore I'd kill the next person to rick roll me in any way, shape, or form. Pinto's5150 Talk 01:35, 17 December 2008 (EST)

I'm pleased you're impressed. On the 8th of July last year Radioactive afikomen was less impressed. I don't want unpleasantness that I feel happens here to follow me. I don't suppose you can give any guarantee individually or collectively that it won't. If you can give a guarantee I would be happy for a link but I fear that's impossible. It's not personal. I just don't know who I can trust here and who I can't. Proxima Centauri 00:20, 25 January 2009 (EST)

I'll be back later. It's still night time here. Proxima Centauri 00:37, 25 January 2009 (EST)

Wow, you freak out way too much, PC. It's the internet. No one can guarantee you a comfy pillow. You rolls your dice, you takes your chances. I notice you have note taken my advice regarding the use of the "comma" yet. ħuman 00:58, 25 January 2009 (EST)
I had actually completely forgotten about atheism wiki. Rest assured, I have no interest in continuing any activities there. My attention is split between three wikis already, and I haven't the slightest inclination to participate in a fourth. Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 01:28, 25 January 2009 (EST)

## thanks! :-)

Wow, thanks! I have new tabs! what fun.. although I probably won't be doing anything with them :p but it's still nice of you. :-) PS Did you know you have a flashing mouse in the middle of your page? lol. Refugeetalk page 18:01, 6 February 2009 (EST)

## Wolf Cheetan

Bring back the pic!DSFARGEG 20:52, 7 February 2009 (EST)

## Sig

I've sorted your sig so that if you put "User:Javascap/sig}}" into the "nickname" field on your preferences it will leave "{{User:Javascap/sig0}}" in the source along with a timestamp. Wisest bastard Hoover! 12:44, 9 February 2009 (EST)

Answering my own question. Alas! I feel like a fool >_>. ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ edits from 1.231.42.12
PSSST, your sig is bleeding! ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ edits from 1.231.42.12
Hehehe. Wisest bastard Hoover! 12:47, 9 February 2009 (EST)

I used </small> to kill the bleeding on this page... Muhahaha. I sincerly reccoment you look into whatever problem is being had (although it might be the Monotype Corsivo on my page...) JÁνąŞ₡Ωp الحديث لي BUNNY!
Never mind, you seem to have fixed it... ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ edits from 1.231.42.12
I added "</font>" to my sig to screw up the font. Wisest bastard Hoover! 12:51, 9 February 2009 (EST)
For that, I am going to give you a light kick, laugh lightly, then move on. ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ edits from 1.231.42.12

## Really

Must you and CUR keep defiling others user pages? Pinto's5150 Talk 20:07, 9 February 2009 (EST)

Yes, yes we must. It is our quest. We have a quest! Don't interfere in our quest! Sir Javascap, I am being attacked by the electrocutioner! Help! We must rush to my defense! Then I'll rush to yours once he comes over to your talk page. --"CURtalk 20:20, 9 February 2009 (EST)
Well, it was fun attacking other people castles, the joke is up. It was fun, fin'. ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ edits from 1.231.42.12
Beans, has it really been so long since the good old days? As long as they stick to each other it's all good fun, right? ħuman 21:54, 9 February 2009 (EST)
If it was just their pages I wouldn't care, but they were creating userpages for random users, that's what annoyed me. Pinto's5150 Talk 22:41, 9 February 2009 (EST)
And I created pages only for people who are sysops, and if they wish to, in a few mouse clicks, they will be gone. I will just go into the history, create a few sub pages, and it will still be recorded, no hard feelings, and life moves on ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ edits from 1.231.42.12
Yeah, Beans, that's rude. Play by the lack of rules, ye noobs! ħuman 23:55, 9 February 2009 (EST)

## Just a non-sequitur...

Not a personal attack. No offense, JS JC JSC HOW THE HELL DO YOU ABREVIATE "JAVASCAP"? The electrocutioner 20:21, 9 February 2009 (EST)

In all honesty, I have never thought of what my abbreviated name would be. For shorts, I just go with 'Scap. It works ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ edits from 1.231.42.12
"Small abode"? Everybody else has a castle and I've got a "small abode"? I am semi-pseudo-offended. The electrocutioner 22:22, 9 February 2009 (EST)
Contents of your abode prior to my assault... " . " ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ edits from 1.231.42.12
(EC) Contents of the "castles" prior to your "assault": " ".
I rest my case. The electrocutioner 22:35, 9 February 2009 (EST)
Um... that was a very dramatic... interesting writing in my castle... I kinda liked it being red, but... really, WTF? Aimless Blaster 22:31, 9 February 2009 (EST)

## Order of the Evil Red Link

Sir Javascap! I need thy help! I am combating the Order of the Evil Red Link! We must make castles! We must defend the good land of RationalWiki! I mount my rusty-spotted cat, you your goat, and we must battle the evil red link dragon! --"CURtalk 18:49, 10 February 2009 (EST)

Gad that was fun. We need to do that again sometime- but with everybody else. --"CURtalk 18:37, 11 February 2009 (EST)

## Plagiarism!

Wisest bastard Hoover! 16:26, 11 February 2009 (EST)

I say thanks but no thanks on the plagerism accusation to nowhere ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ edits from 1.231.42.12
I demand a public apology! Wisest bastard Hoover! 16:29, 11 February 2009 (EST)
Thank you for providing me with the complete inspiration for that particular sysop message. ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ edits from 1.231.42.12

## 'Crats

Could you ease up on the 'crats a bit? We rarely hand these out. Gauss was fine but Nate River's was a complete Wiki Noob when he came and he has been here less than 3 months. If we make everyone a 'crat it could do a lot more damage than sysops. - User ${\displaystyle \pi }$ 23:44, 11 February 2009 (EST)

Fair enough, makes sense. I had no other intentions for any further demotions, just those two. I do realise River was a wiki noob, but I think he is ready for Cratship. And I do understand that 'crats can do more damage. I guess "don't worry, you have a good point" is the default response here. ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ edits from 1.231.42.12
No worries. - User ${\displaystyle \pi }$ 23:48, 11 February 2009 (EST)
We really need to sort of kinda figure out a general guideline for cratting people. Or, the next step could just be that we crat everyone... who knows, might work? ħuman 00:01, 12 February 2009 (EST)
I am kind of worried about people promoting each other in anger. That can cause a few more hurt feelings than a block. I think a time limit would be good. - User ${\displaystyle \pi }$ 00:04, 12 February 2009 (EST)
Yeah, I am thinking that if we did establish rules on 'Crats, it should follow along the lines of this -
Hangs around enough to know the community, has been here for a while, maybe 6 months (I know River was only here for 3 months, and it seems hypocitical... meh),
Have to have contributed to articles, provided suggestions, and been involved with policies.
They also have to not be too particually emotional, to prevent revenge promotions.
Furthermore, I think a good 'crat should be able to tell between a vandal and a new user (A mistake that I made in the past, and felt awfully guilty about Herbert the Hamster... :(. ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ edits from 1.231.42.12

## Thanks

Haha, thanks for the warm welcome XD By the way, if its not too much trouble, mind reading my user page please? Whenever you have time is fine ^^ — Unsigned, by: Namelessphoenix / talk / contribs

I am currently in the process of digesting and thinking about what you have written. It looks like a valid argument process, but I do like looking at things closely. ps, don't forget to sign your post with ~~~~. ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ edits from 1.231.42.12

Oh, mkay, Heheh XD Thanks, and I'll remember to do that in the future XD Namelessphoenix 23:18, 13 February 2009 (EST)

## Embarassing Conservatives

Your latest addition doesn't seem to make any sense. It seems to assume that the readers of that article will be American Conservatives, which they mostly won't be. Besides that, personally I'd say it's way too snarky. Do we really want another article with a remark that fundamentalists are stupid? I don't anyone is really waiting for that. --GTac 12:10, 16 February 2009 (EST)

It's nicer now, but I still don't understand why it's aimed at the reader. --GTac 12:32, 16 February 2009 (EST)

## Sig template

I know it was kind of "POINTy" of me (and funny!) to edit the template, but it is in the general template space, and it shouldn't be. You should move it to your user space where such things belong... ħuman 18:06, 18 February 2009 (EST)

And will be deleted soon... By the way, using the "verb" template with suffixes like "ing" works very badly. ħuman 00:03, 25 February 2009 (EST)

## HURM

I'd love to answer that, but I'd rather see CUR accuse every new user of being me...DSFARGEG 08:46, 19 February 2009 (EST)

## Sig, lesson 2

When you sign as an IP, type 5 tildes to leave a timestamp after manually inserting your sig. Wisest bastard Hoover! 16:23, 24 February 2009 (EST)

## Sig, lesson n+1

Open your preferences and put this into the nickname box:

{{SUBST:User:Javascap/Sig0}}


You can then sign with four tildes without leaving a bunch of code: Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing! -- Nx talk 11:15, 28 February 2009 (EST)

Here goes, hope it works. Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing! 11:19, 28 February 2009 (EST)
Well golly damn and I'll be! Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing!
See, that didn't hurt. You should also nuke this page, it does the same thing as the Sig0 one, and its name is confusing -- Nx talk 11:29, 28 February 2009 (EST)

## On demotions.

Takes the mop and broom firmly in hand:: Thank you Javascap. I vow to keep the environment clean, so that well ordered reasoned thoughts may abide. Also, regarding your user page. You bastard. I will get you back someday! :-) ʇɐqɯoʍıuɯO Wombats come from Austrailia, see?Leave a message at the beep. 16:32, 1 March 2009 (EST)

## Profuse thanks

doubleplusthanks for the cratship. It will come in most useful. The EmperorKneel before Zod! 15:00, 2 March 2009 (EST)

You are very welcome. Take care of that soap! Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing!

HELP! RA is trying to taking away my 'cratship! PLEASE! I must have POWER!The EmperorKneel before Zod! 15:46, 2 March 2009 (EST)

## Datestamp

Could you please remember to add the datestamp when signing? It gets rather confusing to see apparently timeless comments on talk pages. Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 15:44, 2 March 2009 (EST)

## You're still a bot

Not much of a flurry of edits there. - User ${\displaystyle \pi }$ 01:39, 18 March 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, I thought there were more webcomics banging around on this wiki, but in reality, I could only find four so... meh. Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing! 09:17, 18 March 2009 (EDT)
That's because we cared about getting permission. ħuman 23:49, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

## win

I've knocked your pens over. Will you consider getting an OCA FOR YOUR OWN SAKE now? Mei 18:20, 18 March 2009 (EDT)

Problem is both pens are still there, right where they were. And no, I am not interested in a cult, thank ye very muuuuch :) Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing! 18:22, 18 March 2009 (EDT)
Yeah yeah we've all heard the stories - but Scientology is not a cult. Seriously you should read Dianetics some time. Mei 18:49, 18 March 2009 (EDT)

## Oh....

Boop. ħuman 23:51, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Huh? Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing! 12:04, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

## Vandal bin

I don't think it's working, actually. At least, the vandal bin that sysops can access at RationalWiki:Vandal isn't working, since it says I'm Flying has been in there since March 11. I think all that works is changing the group membership, which on bureaucrats can do. --Arcan ¡ollǝɥ 01:10, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

I'll try that? ħuman 01:36, 28 March 2009 (EDT)
I think the apostrophe is exploiting a bug. Trent!!! ħuman 01:37, 28 March 2009 (EDT)
No, it was just the capital F. Thanks a lot. Anyway, they're already in the "vandal" usergroup as well. ħuman 01:38, 28 March 2009 (EDT)
Well, whatever it was, I'm flying was not in the bin, a problem I fixed. I am going to mod my test account and see if the sysop-accessable bin recognises the change... Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing! 10:20, 28 March 2009 (EDT)
That is very odd, the Sysop bin says I'm flying has been binned since March 11th, but my Userright extension showed he was not in the bin last night, which I rectified... how very interesting... how very interesting... Javasca₧ and his Sword of Wiki-Editing! 10:26, 28 March 2009 (EDT)
The Vandal usergroup doesn't do anything as far as I know, and it's definitely not the same as the vandal bin (Special:Userrights is a core part of MW btw). The bin stores users in a separate table, and I'm flying was in there, but there was a problem with the code that calculated the time elapsed from a user's last edit. I replaced that with code from Vandal brake 2.0, and it looks like it's working now. --  Nx/talk  10:51, 28 March 2009 (EDT)