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Browser or what?[edit]

Suddenly (over the past week I think) when I go to the top of any Wiki page (ctrl/home), I wind up with the cursor on top of the "navigation" pallette instead of the very top of the page. Is it just me or what? SusanG  ContribsTalk 23:57, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

I dunno, I just tried it on the ELG after editing, where I was in the middle. Seemed to go to top of page... ħumanUser talk:Human 01:41, 20 July 2008 (EDT)

You missed my entire talking backwards phase[edit]

This doesn't seem fair, somehow. Do you want the highlights? <blink></blink> 06:39, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

Err.... NO! thank you. SusanG  ContribsTalk 06:59, 21 July 2008 (EDT)
Suit yourself :P
Do you want some figgy pudding? <blink></blink> 07:03, 21 July 2008 (EDT)
It's not Christmas! SusanG  ContribsTalk 07:09, 21 July 2008 (EDT)
It's always Christmas in Jellyville! How about some mint spies? <blink></blink> 09:09, 21 July 2008 (EDT)


Thanks for telling me about the error (and being the only person out of 200-odd overnight visitors to actually mention it, grr). I've fixed it now :) I hereby award you unlimited free access to the site! The Lay Scientist 08:34, 21 July 2008 (EDT)


Deleted and I'll never type another word of that nature. . .


I thought I was pretty fair, all things considered. Also, Harrison was better.WilhelmJunker 18:50, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

Hah Heh Hee Hee Hee. & Ringo was(is) a good drummer. - most amusing! SusanG  ContribsTalk 18:52, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
Well, Lennon was right about some things; "Do you think Ringo is the best rock drummer in the world?" — to which he jokingly replied, "He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles."WilhelmJunker 19:07, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
See? Lennon was quite sharp. Ringo Starr bought me a drink SusanG  ContribsTalk 19:09, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
And a dick... Harrison was certainly a nicer person, than John or Paul. ħumanUser talk:Human 19:21, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
Nobody said anything about niceness. (Norwegian Wood is my favourite Beatles' song). Lennon wasn't a dick - he was a fairly normal person with lots of money. Harrison's maharishi-following was much more dickish. What did Lennon do (before Yoko) that was dickish? (Err... define "dick"?) SusanG  ContribsTalk 19:29, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
Well, he did show his spite towards Cynthia by favoring Sean over Julian, which is just a tad dickish. But that's immaterial, as the edit only asserts that a number of people think he's kind of a dick (at least two, as it turns out), not that he was in fact a dick.WilhelmJunker 19:32, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
Dick, prick, jerk.... "wazzock". Come on, his delightful "acerbic" or sarcastic sense of humor was legendary - and pointed, and personal. "Cellarful of Boys"? Harrison, on the other hand, kept friends for life. And John & Paul were also quite smitten with Sexy Sadie. They just dropped TM sooner. Whether the seeking was a cause or result, GH wound up a much nicer person. ħumanUser talk:Human 19:35, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
Don't think he was a dick or a prick or a jerk or even a wazzock. If having a pointed/personal/acerbic/sarcastic sense of humour is dickish, then most of the people I admire are dickish. SusanG  ContribsTalk 19:50, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
He was actively cruel to the people he loved, and those he probably should have been nicer to. Convo continues at talk:John "God" Lennon ;) ħumanUser talk:Human 19:54, 22 July 2008 (EDT)


Jinxy Jinx Jinx is not a real user! — Unsigned, by: That user who abuses the unsigned template / talk / contribs

I know, twit. If he had been I wouldn't have touched his User Page! SusanG  ContribsTalk 03:32, 24 July 2008 (EDT)
Don't listen to Susan! She hacked my account! — Unsigned, by: The Real SusanG :nods: / talk / contribs
Well now I don't know who to believe.
It's a puzzler. <blink></blink> 03:36, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

Nice catch[edit]

<blink></blink> 14:36, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Found it by askident. SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:40, 25 July 2008 (EDT) (assuming you mean the ONENEWSNOW thing)SusanG  ContribsTalk
Yup. Personally, I
  1. read about it,
  2. meant to add something about it here,
  3. forgot completely.
It's a neat cycle. <blink></blink> 14:43, 25 July 2008 (EDT)


I'm with you on the Cheese. but see, i figured you all needed your coffee as one of them 4 groups.  ;-)--WaitingforGodot 15:34, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

For maximum effect[edit]

For maximum annoyance of the trolls, I recommend a nice transclusion of DFTT onto their user talk page. Pinto's5150 Talk 18:26, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

SusanG, please block me for an appropriate amount of time for feeding the troll. I really should know better (Though I am accused of being a troll myself)--Chris111 18:41, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Vandal group[edit]

Haha. ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 18:53, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Yes ma'am.[edit]

Do you at least get the joke though? --Ollie Williams 01:10, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

No. SusanG  ContribsTalk 01:30, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
Ok. --US-O11 insignia.svg Gen. S.T. Shrink That's what she said. 01:33, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

I shall expect a "sorry" cake[edit]

Preferrably something with walnuts. ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 05:05, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

<injured>Where's my cake?</injured> ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 07:31, 27 July 2008 (EDT)


Can't we just protect the article? ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 10:43, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

Once a week Buncha comes along & does the same Wandalism - why bother? (protect & wandal's won!) SusanG  ContribsTalk 10:54, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
It's not a vandal, it's a bot. And it isn't like it's ever targetted any other pages -- if you protected Scientology, there would be nothing it could do. ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 11:01, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
Whatever - protect & it's won. SusanG  ContribsTalk 11:03, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
No it hasn't. It doesn't care about (or even see) our reactions, it's only trying to get certain key words and phrases linked in pages about scientology. Protect and it has lost. ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 11:08, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
Another unwritten policy: RATIONALWIKI DOES NOT PROTECT PAGES. SusanG  ContribsTalk 11:10, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
And whyever not? ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 11:17, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
But.... but.... you've written it..... How could you???? <Joking, of course, I agree with susan on this, we don't protect, unless it's a user subpage/sig/thing like that.> Pinto's5150 Talk 11:18, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
Why not? Think the MAHATMA! SusanG  ContribsTalk 11:20, 27 July 2008 (EDT) (as in GANDHI that is)
Both these responses are notable for not being real answers. Why shouldn't we block unregistered users from editing Scientology? It would encourage any casual editors (not that they exist) to sign up. ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 11:23, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
Believe me, they care. Chris Fanshaw 11:24, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
Nonsense. It doesn't. It's a bot, and it doesn't know what it's doing. ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 11:30, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
Scientology? We invited them to Lisa's birthday, but no-one showed up..... Pinto's5150 Talk 11:26, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
(ec) CHAOS will you STOP trying to unilaterally change RatWiki, PLEASE? SusanG  ContribsTalk 11:27, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
Calm down, silly :) If you pay close attention, you'll notice I'm discussing change rather than doing anything unilaterally. ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 11:30, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
Right, you've discussed it with me, now find some other sod to bother. SusanG  ContribsTalk 11:32, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
:( ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 11:36, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
Looks like I missed the discussions about reverting three other editors six times on a BoN page. And for Chaos' information - an IP can be a sock if it is a proxy, or used in addition to a registered account. Jollyfish.gifGenghisYou have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you. 11:42, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
We knew that was his genuine IP address. There was absolutely no cause to break the castle rule in that case. ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 11:50, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
AND: put MAIN PAGE back how it was. SusanG  ContribsTalk 11:44, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
Done. ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 11:50, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

[ ][edit]

Could you unsysop me in about four minutes, please? Thanks ever so... ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 12:10, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

Some explanations...[edit]

I wasn't actually stomping off in a sulk -- I only intended to take a short wikibreak. However, after I left the desysopping message, my computer crashed quite catastrophically. I imagine it looked like quite an epic sulk, from your point of view :) ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 17:27, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

The new free ringtones information[edit]

Your site- is amazing site, good job, admin.

Semi-personalized I love it. 18:54, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
T'would have been funnier as "Your site- RationalWiki is amazing site, good job, admin." ħumanUser talk:Human 19:01, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

DAMMIT, SUSAN!!!![edit]

I was about to do that. Take my fun away.PFoster 11:44, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

sorry! SusanG  ContribsTalk 11:45, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

RWW 3.0[edit]

RationalWikiWiki 3.0 is up! Come bear witness to our third incarnation! Hans Johnson as in "keep ya hans off my" (cover your eyes!) 21:19, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

Where I am not a sysop. --Enghorn 21:28, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
Seen it, it's boring. SusanG  ContribsTalk 00:28, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
*sniff* You did not seem to think so when you edited as Anon. Hans Johnson as in "keep ya hans off my" (cover your eyes!) 00:36, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
"That was then, this is now". "Time to put away childish things". And various other quotes. SusanG  ContribsTalk 01:20, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
Oh, come on Susan, call him a Wazzock!!! Wait, so you "took up these childish things" like, this year, in your late thirties...? ħumanUser talk:Human 01:32, 31 July 2008 (EDT)


(bow) Thank you for the invitation.

--UnicornTapestry 02:19, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

Err Susan you missed. I fixed so it is all better now. \approx\pi 02:29, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

I have a question. A Wikipedia user critical of me contacted me directly via eMail. Is that possible for a standard user or did that take special (admin) privileges? Thanks.

--UnicornTapestry 06:31, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

As I understand it, you've got to have specified your address in Preferences:
Specify an e-mail address in your preferences for these features to work.
Enable e-mail from other users
Send me copies of e-mails I send to other users
& enabled as above. SusanG  ContribsTalk 06:46, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

Dinsdale's pushing his luck[edit]

Yeah, I feel a block is due any time now. The interesting thing is, will it be the usual 3-day or 1-week type, or will my inclusion in the Fox "rw mole" list earn me a perma-block for "not supporting the project's goals" or some similar nonsense. We'll see. --SpinyNorman 10:24, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

Dunno, but you're being reasonable - that never works on CP. SusanG  ContribsTalk 10:26, 1 August 2008 (EDT)


I haven't said hi in a while, so I'm saying it now. Hi. ThunderkatzHo! 14:44, 1 August 2008 (EDT) Hi, swine Shakinghead.gif reverting my block! You're right of course but the little twit, who apparently has a sub-teen mentality as well as a wife & kid(s?), was getting on my nerves. Never having had kids, I'm pretty short tempered with them. SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:49, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

Side effects of medication[edit]

Dunno which, or combination of which, of the many pills, potions & other interferences with my metabolism is responsible, but I've just had a rather strange experience. The whole left side of the world became as if viewed through a kaleidoscope. It was quite pretty really. Looking round teh web it seems that I might have had a migraine attack. Never had one before & so far there's no headache. It's gone now! Scheisse! Missing the Fringe - second year they'll have to do without me!SusanG  ContribsTalk 10:24, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

It appears you are experiencing mild psychosis :nods sagely: ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 10:30, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
Mild? SusanG  ContribsTalk 10:33, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
Relatively :P ~ Gloom(is never asleep) 10:35, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
I get it too, a kind of rainbowing of the vision - but on the right side, and also there's no headache. Are you short-sighted, Susan? I am (in one eye) it could be that maybe? Incidentally, I'm not on medication. Totnesmartin 10:38, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
Never got it before - that's why I put it down to medication. I have a slight - very slight headache now. I'm going to outpatients on Thur - I'll ask. Yes I am shortsighted - but that's age related, I've been told. PS - seen you (rightly) defending the CP art on WP :-) SusanG  ContribsTalk 10:58, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
Just how many windows do you have open? :) (eyes my puny 4). The WP article is now what they call a "Good Article", which means they have standards - you can't just add in fun snark like what we does. This is probably why many of its articles are extremely dull. Totnesmartin 11:13, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
Heh! 4 windows, @ least 4 tabs each and Open Office & Solitaire(! for thinking time). Yes, it's a pity they've got the definite ban on "Original Research" 'cause that comment was quite true. SusanG  ContribsTalk 11:21, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
Well no wonder your eyes are going funny! Go and play with the puddytats for a bit... Totnesmartin 11:27, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

With regard to the above, I get what I'm told are "Ocular Migraines" now and again, although I'm not generally prone to headaches. Rainbowing of vision, starting at the centre of vision and expanding slowly outwards over the course of about 45 minutes or so, by which time my vision has pretty much cleared up and I'm left with a low-level headache that I can usually deal with using Advil or something. I consider myself fortunate it's nothing worse. --Kels 19:17, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

How'd it go? Totnesmartin 16:31, 7 August 2008 (EDT)


Actually, I reverted since I noticed someone had the same link a few entries down, although I think my comment was funnier. --Kels 19:03, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

leave it - it's got one vote already (not mine yet!) SusanG  ContribsTalk 19:05, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
I'm good with that, although I think some civic-minded soul went and removed it anyway. --Kels 19:15, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
How about adding your comment (Kels) to the earlier entry? ħumanUser talk:Human 19:43, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
I'd pretty much have to rewrite the entry, and that's not very fair to whoever did it the first time. --Kels 20:15, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
Oh, I wasn't aware that people "owned" wigo entries. Shouldn't we all be working to make them as good as we can? (Hi Susan!) ħumanUser talk:Human 20:17, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

Totally out of the blue help on Brit culture[edit]

You and bob and several others are from "the old country" right? I need some help on English pop culture. I'm currently watching a very odd comdey called "lab rats", and wonder if any of you have seen it. The question I'm curious about (other than "what the hell is that girl saying") is "what the hell accent does that girl have." I know it's totally "off topic" but i don't know anyone who lives in England who might have seen this wakadoo show. (I loved IT Crowd, but lab rats is a bit out there for me) --Waiting for Godot 11:41, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

Sorry, not seen it. But British accents are very varied.--Bobbing up 11:53, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
I believe that the one you are referring to is a Brummie (native of Birmingham). Jollyfish.gifGenghisYou have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you. 11:56, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
I'm going to have to youtube that accent and see if i can find a way to make it more coherant to my poor american ears. I sware I watch that show and say "huh" at least 20 times an episode with her accent. thanks! --Waiting for Godot 12:03, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
Aside from Britain having a cornucopia of local accents, keep in mind that actors/comics, just like anywhere, mimic, mock, and exaggerate these accents for effect, just as in the States you here affected New Yawk Speak, Texas drawls, and California dudespeak. Think of MPFC, where the lads "real" accents are fairly straightforward (5 oxbridge proper, 1 walish wheedle, as I recall), but they imitate and exaggerate many, many accents for the characters they play. ħumanUser talk:Human 20:49, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
Yeah, i know they can "put on" an accent, just like anyone else. Hugh laurie blew me away when i first head him speak naturally, cause all I'd ever seen him in (at teh time) was House. Accents are a funny thing, don'ca know. I just wish i could understand her. I don't even know her name...--Waiting for Godot 22:27, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
Lab Rats are probably teh crappiest sitcom (com?) to air for yonks - she's a brummy (I think). Please do not watch this crap! SusanG  ContribsTalk 10:16, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
"Touch me, I'm Karen Taylor" has some good bits. I particularly liked this sketch. Jollyfish.gifGenghisYou have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you. 12:06, 11 August 2008 (EDT)


Elo. Wilcom bakk. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 09:53, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

Thanks Jelly.
Pot/kettle "Stop being childish."! heh. SusanG  ContribsTalk
I'm better at it :P <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 10:27, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
Practice makes perfect? SusanG  ContribsTalk 10:37, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
Meanie. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 10:44, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

Gee, SusieQ, if the parody material couldn't be detected, why have the template?[edit]

You are one dum bilb. (Quick! Point to the deliberate spelling errors!) 01:43, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Nice to know I've got a fan, Jinxy. Always ready to take teh piss outa you! (If it's Parody - I'd have thought it'd be better delete, rather than ADVERTISED! - wanker!) SusanG  ContribsTalk 01:51, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
BTW, Twat, it's one little word that gives the game away: believed, take that out & you might have a point - but not until. SusanG  ContribsTalk 02:23, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
I remember substituting "thinks" for "believes" in a number of UXBs at CP, back when I was on the confy side of my late forties... ħumanUser talk:Human 02:25, 17 August 2008 (EDT)


Persons, who shall remain nameless, have "accidentally" removed the Windows (ugh) partition on the laptop. She's also, of course killed the linux/windoze boot option. Consequently, I'm reduced to the effing PDA until she can figure out a driver for my HUAWEI E220 USB modem, any helpers out there? I've only just been joined at holiday chalet by said person & laptop - I've been on PDA for 5 days & was looking foward to proper Firefox again - we're not talking (not easy in 1 roomed accommodation)  :-) SusanG  ContribsTalk 10:59, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

You don't really need a driver, per se. It's a USB serial device. Plug it in and it should create a comm port, most modern Linuxen will set it up for you, you just need to tell it the username and password ("web" and "web" on Voda.) Windows (XP) is slightly more painful, because it doesn't really understand that modems these days could conceivably be faster than the 56Kbps you can get away with down plain old copper. Go to Settings, select Phone and Modem options, say "don't detect my modem" and then select standard 56K modem. Select your comm port and you should be done. Then go to network connections, press create new connection, select connect to the internet, set up my connection manually, connect using a dialup modem, select the modem you created earlier, give the connection a name, tell it the phone number is *99#, tell it "web" and "web" as the username and password and that's about it.
To be honest, these days it's far easier just to install Joikuspot on your phone than faff around with this nonsense.

--JeevesMkII 11:21, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Its Ubuntu Ultimate Edition & it detects nothing. (neither of us are really linux savvy - I was years ago but it's all disappeared from the gray cells - might have to seek out local linux boffin when We get home.)SusanG  ContribsTalk 11:38, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
Bit odd. Open a command prompt and start by typing sudo /bin/bash to get yourself a root shell.
Then try typing lsmod, which should list the loaded kernel modules. If usbserial.ko isn't one of them, type "modprobe usbserial" then check if it has created /dev/ttyUSB0. If it has, then run the PPP setup utility again, if not you could try "modprobe usbserial vendor=0x12d1 product=0x1001" and "modprobe usbserial vendor=0x12d1 product=0x1003" --JeevesMkII 11:45, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Usbserial; size: 35816; used by: ipaq, airprime,option. SusanG  ContribsTalk 12:01, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Ah so. How many /dev/ttyUSBx devices do you have? --JeevesMkII 12:03, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

pathetic ignorance haven't a clue (what you're talking about) According to help the usb devices should be on the desktop (gnome) but they're not. There's a meeting of the local linux group on 29th Aug so I'll go there (If not sortd be4). SusanG  ContribsTalk 12:12, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Heh, presumably when it says "usb devices" it means USB mass storage. If you type "ls /dev/ttyUSB*" at the command prompt, you'll get a list of USB serial devices. If the usbserial module has noticed your E220 you should have several, like /dev/ttyUSB0, etc. --JeevesMkII 12:20, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Heh to you too :-) /dev/ttyUSB - no such directory - same for all cases af Usb, usb etc. But ls /dev produces: ttyUSB0, ttyUSB1, & ttyUSB2 (also usbdevn.m where n = 1 - 7; m = 1, 2, 62 variously. )( Btw original installation disk about 60 miles away) SusanG  ContribsTalk 12:40, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

OK, that sounds like the right answer. Next question, do you have any or all of the following installed - "pppd" and/or "wvdial"? Just type each of those at the command line and see what happens. --JeevesMkII 12:58, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Aaaargh: pppd: 10 times a load of garbage (presumably a phone number or some such in asciii?) Wvdial: cannot open /dev/modem: no such file or directory. SusanG  ContribsTalk 13:08, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Ooops, sorrt :D. Anyway. Everything seems like it'll probably work fine, run "wvconf" as root, and see if it finds your modem. Then edit /etc/wvdial.conf and change the username, password and phone number to the aforementioned values, then type wvdial and it'll probably all work. (There's probably some gnome applet for doing this, but damned if I know what it is. It's been yearssince I've touched gnome.) --JeevesMkII 13:21, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

bash: wvconf: command not found


SusanG  ContribsTalk 13:28, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

This of course is because I'm an idiot. "wvdialconf" :D --JeevesMkII 13:29, 17 August 2008 (EDT)


found a modem on /dev/ttyUSB0

We'll try after tea with the rest - under threat of starvation if I don't eat NOW. :-)

You lovely man Jeeves. SusanG  ContribsTalk 13:39, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Later: No, apparently I need to get my username & password from "3". (I've been on t'internet & found a usergroup) So tomorrow I'm going to the 3 website & possibly down the 3 shop if there is one here. Or make herself do it 'cause it's her fault! Thanks anyhoo, Jeeves - you've been a great help. XXX SusanG  ContribsTalk 15:20, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Ah, you're on 3 are you? I know the answer to that one too :D Tt's "three" and "three" :D --JeevesMkII 15:31, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Oh! oh!

Wvdial: Internet dialer version 1.60
Cannot get information for serial port.
Initalizing modem.
Sending: ATZ
Sending ATQ8 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
ATQ8 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
Modem initialized.
Configuration does not specify a valid phone number.
Configuration does not specify a valid login name.
Configuration does not specify a valid password.

Boo hoo! SusanG  ContribsTalk 16:53, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Paste the contents of /etc/wvdial.conf and I'll endeavour to fix it for you. --JeevesMkII 20:08, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
"I've been on PDA for 5 days & was looking foward to proper Firefox again - we're not talking (not easy in 1 roomed accommodation)" Hey Susan... are these really reasons to not be talking? Just interfering from this end of the pond with some merkin happy talk.. ħumanUser talk:Human 01:58, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
Heh! The longest period we've ever managed a "not talking" has been about 7 minutes - & that was over the fit of some denims - i.e. something really serious. Yesterday's lasted about 7 seconds! SusanG  ContribsTalk 10:17, 18 August 2008 (EDT)


[Dialer Defaults]
Init1 = ATZ
Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FClASS=0
Modem Type = Analog Modem
New PPPD = yes
ISDN = 0
; Phone =*99#
; Password = three
; Username = three
Baud = 9600

Just one thing: I recall from the windoze dialup that the password & username were about 9 or 10 chars. (although asterisked out) SusanG  ContribsTalk 20:33, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Ah, the semicolons at the beginning of the appropriate lines mean they're commented out. Also, it seems to have failed to autodetect the baud rate sensibly. Try:
[Dialer Defaults]
Init1 = ATZ
Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FClASS=0
Modem Type = Analog Modem
New PPPD = yes
ISDN = 0
Phone =*99#
Password = three
Username = three
Baud = 460800

Also, I hope that the password on Windows looks like 10 or so chars because it's padded to mask the real length. I think the credentials you have are right. We'll see. --JeevesMkII 06:39, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Well, that certainly did something but then teh computer froze & I've had to do the 5 second off button push. Gonna try again in a while. SusanG  ContribsTalk 10:22, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Another go:

--> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60
--> Cannot get information for serial port.
--> Initializing modem.
--> Sending: ATZ
--> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
--> Modem initialized.
--> Sending: ATDT*99#
--> Waiting for carrier.
--> Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt.
--> Don't know what to do! Starting pppd and hoping for the best.
--> Starting pppd at Monday Aug 18 15:58:17 2008
--> Pid of pppd: 10155
--> Using interface ppp0
--> pppd: ¥¥[06][08][0¥][06][08]
--> pppd: ¥¥[06][08][0¥][06][08]
--> pppd: ¥¥[06][08][0¥][06][08]
--> pppd: ¥¥[06][08][0¥][06][08]
--> pppd: ¥¥[06][08][0¥][06][08]
--> pppd: ¥¥[06][08][0¥][06][08]
--> local  IP address
--> pppd: ¥¥[06][08][0¥][06][08]
--> remote IP address yy.yy.yy.yy
--> pppd: ¥¥[06][08][0¥][06][08]
--> primary     DNS address z.z.z.z
--> pppd: ¥¥[06][08][0¥][06][08]
--> secondary DNS address z.z.z.w
--> pppd: ¥¥[06][08][0¥][06][08]

With cursor (no prompt) flashing below last line. (¥ = reversed question mark)

That was 20 minutes ago - takes that long to type into this PDA! SusanG  ContribsTalk 11:23, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

(IP addresses substituted with x,y,z for my own protection!) SusanG  ContribsTalk

That looks like everything worked fine to me, is there still a problem? --JeevesMkII 11:36, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
Whee! no! You're a darling Jeeves Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Th hug.gif XXXXXXXX SusanG  ContribsTalk 11:41, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
Now to customise firefox & get some addons! SusanG  ContribsTalk 11:56, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
Teensy problemmette: if I close the terminal where I wvdialed I disconnect. SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:53, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
Zis is true. Google tells me there is a thing called gnome-ppp which either you may have installed, or you can install now you have and internet connection which will invoke wvdial in a slightly more user friendly way. --JeevesMkII 16:36, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
Thanks - looking SusanG  ContribsTalk 16:49, 18 August 2008 (EDT)


While most if it was a PITA, I did think the suicide one was funny. (If not entirely original). Jollyfish.gifGenghisYou have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you. 17:58, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Never known anyone who's done it? Take it from me - NOT FUNNY! SusanG  ContribsTalk 18:03, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
My grandfather (barbiturate overdose), a very good friend whom I loved dearly (failed, her 5-year old son found her in the bath with her wrists slashed and called for help), and next door neighbour's 18-year old son (car-exhaust jobby).

However, as a blond European having been surrounded by a rampaging anti-western mob in Egypt and later besieged in my hotel by several hundred protestors, cooped up in a small room while the house was trashed by a group of sword and machete-wielding crooks in Colombo (Sri Lanka - they were after my colleague), been shot at in Iran when soldiers opened fire at a group of anti-Shah demonstrators and then eventually evacuated by the Royal Navy to Dubai (the first evacuees since Aden), missed by only two hours an Israeli air-raid on the refugee camp next to our office (destroyed) in Beirut, spent six weeks in Algeria with a permanent guard of 10 soldiers to prevent kidnapping, attacked by pirates in the South China Sea (fended off with fire hoses), rolled over in a Toyota Land-cruiser at 80 kph, escaped from opium-growers in Baluchistan who thought our helicopter was government soldiers so they shot at it and severed an oil line while it was idling on the ground - the chopper took off immediately and crash-landed on the plains 10 miles away, we had a five hour trek with a wounded guy (ricochet off rock into his calf) through a river valley to reach a village after our Pakistani colleagues persuaded them to let us go in return for leaving behind the Lee-Enfield 303 rifle. These events have left me with a very philosophical view of life, I am lucky to have experienced it all and lived. So if I die tomorrow, I will have no regrets. Suicide may not be funny, but the notion of a Clippit presuming to think one is writing a suicide letter is. Because quite honestly if I can't laugh at what's happened I'd probably crack up, so when I see those poor sods being decapitated in Iraq, I know full well that it could quite easily be me (£1000 a day wasn't enough to persuade me although I was tempted). And the bugger of it all is that you can't tell anyone about it. Your family would have a fit if they knew and your mates in the UK, whose only world is football, grab-a-granny at the Mecca and getting plastered at a week-end, have no concept of what the rest of the world is like. So yes, suicide is shit particularly for those left behind but I admit that at times if a weapon of gun had been reaily available then I might have done it myself.

Sorry if I've rambled on but I've never told anyone outside those I work with all this before, and as a lot of this shit has had religious origins then that probably explains why I am the way I am. Jollyfish.gifGenghisYou have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you. 19:11, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Oops! You've certainly been around & "lived in interesting times". Sorry if I implied (rather more than that, I know) that you hadn't sympathy. The two (3?) suicides I've known were brought to it by the stupidity of people. A schoolteacher (she left) had been picking on a 16 year old girl - she hanged herself - and my brother caused my parents to have their house repossessed (Strangely the repossession was revoked after the DAILY MAIL (spit) took up their case) they overdosed on a cocktail of prescription drugs. Luckily they suffered little more than a couple of weeks in hospital which timed out the repossession (although I and our two dogs spent the time living in my Austin Allegro (spit again)). I can't see anything amusing about anyone encouraging suicide in any way - sorry. SusanG  ContribsTalk 19:39, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Engage brain before editing wazzock[edit]

How, exactly, does one edit a wazzock? Totnesmartin 09:57, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

Totnesmartin (who he ^_^) has a valid point. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 09:59, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
I made a valid point? (goes for a lie down) Totnesmartin 10:01, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
Easiest way is to redact it laterally using a Runcible or sporked foible manifesto but it is quite common to swage the grommet strangler and allow things to take their course. SusanG  ContribsTalk 10:14, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
Gibberish, I say! <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 10:24, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
You must be a Liberal with atheistic tendencies to deny the rightness of my statement (and you probably eat babies too) SusanG  ContribsTalk 10:31, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

You have too much stuff in your user page[edit]

I've tried to get through it, I honestly have, but it's like a Viking epic now. Could you just give me the gist? <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 11:27, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

Well, it's just for me really so I don't see why I should. It's things that amuse me generally leavened with things that I thyink are otherwise interesting. SusanG  ContribsTalk 11:32, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
Susan's user page is like my grandmothers attic, you never know what you're going to unearth and some of it's fascinating. I found a wonderful link to the perfect rant in the links section. Hooray for Susan! Silver Sloth 11:54, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

Thank you[edit]

Thanks Susan for the help with getting the formatting right on the stuff I copied from Conservapedia. BTW, I love your This User boxes! Jimaginator 14:21, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

You're welcome Th hug.gif(Teh plural of "userbox" is "userboxen")Nods.gif SusanG  ContribsTalk 14:26, 25 August 2008 (EDT)


Can I put the image in Phyllis's actual article? <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 15:08, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

I was going to but the article's rather straight - not a lot of obvious snark - didn't want to EFFup a good article. Also Copyright status is dodgy - don't want to put it in the front line. SusanG  ContribsTalk 15:15, 25 August 2008 (EDT)


Good morning!

>Wips at two places @ the same time. Who's a busy tapestry then?

I'm getting Wiplash. (laughing)

(Since Wikipedia objected to preserving Schlafly's nonsense, er, article, I hoped RW might be more appropriate.)

How are you doing? Do I recall you're in the UK or am I having an aneurysm?

Another question I'm just starting to research: Do you have knowledge of the Wiki software? Is it OpenSource? (I'm pursuing an idea for a collaborative project.)

Thanks, lady.

--UnicornTapestry 10:07, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

I think I may have found the answer here on RW: MediaWiki
--UnicornTapestry 10:16, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Yes, I'm in the UK (North Notts). The software can be downloaded from Mediawiki. There's Wikifarms out there where you can use already running Wiki software to create your own wiki as well with no need to download anything. I've got a wiki on SusanG  ContribsTalk 10:25, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
see Wikipedia SusanG  ContribsTalk 10:41, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
Brilliant! Thanks, Susan.
--UnicornTapestry 11:26, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Isn't that the wrong Jinx?[edit]

That looks like one of his old IP talk pages. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 23:25, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Probably, what's his current one? SusanG  ContribsTalk 23:28, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
This, I think. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 23:31, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
Thanks. SusanG  ContribsTalk 23:34, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
None taken! :)
Wait, that's not right... <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 23:35, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

I put you in a user group just now. Guess which one it was.[edit]

:) <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 22:08, 30 August 2008 (EDT)

Hello Susan[edit]

I don't believe that we have been properly introduced, but I will take a chance and say "hello" anyway. So . .. about this place. Is it worth the time and energy or not. Hard to tell so far and I'm willing to take a chance on your judgement. Carptrash 00:22, 31 August 2008 (EDT)

Hi! I dunno - for me it's as much a social thing as anything else. I enjoy (most of) the banter and the people seem OK. We're slowly improving the site (little thanks to me)[citation needed] and probably need fresh blood. All I can say is if you find the company congenial after a couple of months - why not stick around? SusanG  ContribsTalk 00:30, 31 August 2008 (EDT)
"Little thanks to me"? Don't be stupid. I want a citation for that... or a writing plan, at least. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 00:45, 31 August 2008 (EDT)

These days my life runs in blocks of hours - so a couple of months is . ... a new way for me to look at things. But why not? Thanks. Carptrash 00:32, 31 August 2008 (EDT)


Meanie. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 01:26, 31 August 2008 (EDT)

I know and I'd like to block the little shit permanently but he is good for a giggle.
Going sleepybyes now Night Night. SusanG  ContribsTalk 01:30, 31 August 2008 (EDT)
Night. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 01:33, 31 August 2008 (EDT)
Night night all, and to all, a good night. Goatspeed! ħumanUser talk:Human 02:51, 31 August 2008 (EDT)



Proving Jinx's Law[edit]

I dunno if you noticed this already, but Jinx has incorporated your experience with the church's computer into his user page, conveniently ignoring the fact that it was the software rather than the church which blocked access to CP. weaseLOIdWeaselly.jpg~ 19:05, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Heh. hadn't seen it, most illuminating. SusanG  ContribsTalk 23:02, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I resisted the urge to ruin my editing "rights" by commenting. I just frothed, and laughed, instead. ħumanUser talk:Human 23:30, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

There was only one catch...[edit]

I completely agree. I read it when I was thirteen and it changed my life -- I've managed to lose three copies to friends because I keep trying to get them to read it. I'm actually surprised my handle wasn't already taken, here...seems like Yossarian would have a bigger fanbase in a place like this.--Purple George!YossieSpring in Fialta 00:30, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

I suppose it's a bit lese majesty (my French, she is not good) - rather like calling yourself Jesus on CP. I've not picked it up this year - haved to have another dip. SusanG  ContribsTalk 00:35, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
Me copy is at the bottom of a packing box somewhere. --Purple George!YossieSpring in Fialta 00:46, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
I preferred your weird red sig. Still, it's your choice, obviously. Only one catch... hehe... I still own my copy, at least. ħumanUser talk:Human 00:54, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
Ah, but my weird red sig is still there! Refresh a couple times and it ought to pop up.--Purple George!YossieSpring in Fialta 00:57, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
Oh goodie!!! I also like the multi-colored one. ħumanUser talk:Human 01:03, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

William Donohue[edit]

Well you just put me to shame didn't you? Thanks for all the work and congrats on 10,000 edits. \approx\pi 06:01, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

Hardly, I'd never heard of the guy & just Googled & Copy/pasted, he's tussling with some feminists at the moment, it seems.
RA doesn't think I've got 10,000 but I trust mechanical software over soggy gray matter software :-) SusanG  ContribsTalk 06:21, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
Sorted: The prefs edit count includes all the blockings, promotings, movings, deletings and such stuff - valid for a poweful being like a Burroc Rat? SusanG  ContribsTalk 06:49, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

Need help?[edit]

I'm told you grrls need help when trying to use a chair. If you need help standing back up I'm sure Unky Ed would give you a hand. CЯacke® 20:31, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

Please, let us old-fashioned gentlemen behave. I agree wholeheartedly with Monsieur Poirot. Editor at CPLiar at RP! 20:34, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

I started to post something rather rude but thought better of it. (If Nunky Ed came within 5 miles of me I'd demand police protection.) Haven't we been all over that "Chivalry crap" before somewhere? SusanG  ContribsTalk 20:37, 2 September 2008 (EDT)


I keep getting the feeling that I'm overlooking a prominent editor who deserves to be demoted.
Or maybe it's a sysop who should be a bureaucrat. Either way, I'm confused. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 20:59, 3 September 2008 (EDT)

Well invertebrates can expect to be confused in this environment. I just noticed the red (!) and thought that it was about time for Norseperson to be kicked downstairs. Don't think we need burrow crats (apart from ME that is) they're not much use for anything apart from sysopping. SusanG  ContribsTalk 21:06, 3 September 2008 (EDT) (btw, how do you manipulate a keyboard with your soft & floppy appendages? SusanG  ContribsTalk
With near-infinite precision and grace. Yea, I am to a keyboard as Michelangelo was to the halcyon white marble of Florence. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 21:13, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
Kingfisher marble? SusanG  ContribsTalk 21:17, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
Er... It might be. What does that mean? <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 21:31, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
Halcyon means kingfisher (the bird) also (fig) pleasant, balmy. SusanG  ContribsTalk 21:59, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
Gotcha. I mean the figgy one :) <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!</font>Fish can wish 22:04, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest. If you saw that movie, the nemesis captain guy plays an organ with his tentacle face. It's hawt. Oh, why so cruel Suzie? I guess I can haz responsibilites... NorsemanWassail! 23:00, 3 September 2008 (EDT)