Talk:Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

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Schizophrenia

Lomax for the first time has recently opened up about his schizophrenia diagnose and his history of being hospitalized for delusions and hearing voices. Lomax has created a lot of online impersonation accounts over the years, I know we should not speculate but this may be the result of his diagnosis. Johns (talk) 13:54, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Is he dead?

Claims he died on Reddit but so far have not been able to verify. https://www.reddit.com/r/Quraniyoon/comments/1c5b1rd/abd_ulrahman_daniel_lomax_uabdlomax_passed_from/ 159.65.91.70 (talk) 16:05, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

He's been reported as dead before on social media by similar low-quality low-post Redditors.[1] The Internet, including Reddit, is filled with a lot of bullshit. I'd await some other source to come along. BobJohnson (talk) 19:49, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Actually there is a bit more to it, I found a post online by someone, who is apparently his ex-wife, claiming that he died on April 12. However I couldn't find an obituary or anything else. Chillpilled (talk) 20:36, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

It's true he died on 12 April but there are no good sources on this only family messages on Facebook which cannot be cited for privacy. It's best to wait 4-6 months for a good source or obituary. Johns (talk) 21:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

That was what I figured as well. Chillpilled (talk) 21:22, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

I actually privately debated Lomax less than 2 weeks ago on nutrition. He was still promoting the pseudoscientific view that humans do not need to eat any plants and that no carb source is required, he said the bulk of the diet should be red meat. He was totally wrong about this but thought of himself an expert on that topic. Lomax was bedridden for the last 5 years of his life. He's hardly a good case study of the diet he was promoting. If he was more sensible with his lifestyle choices he would have probably lived longer. I never understood the appeal for the carnivore diet, it's not good for long-term health. You have to be crazy to think it is. Johns (talk) 21:44, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

The "carnivore diet" to me follows the lines of bodybuilding woo (given its origin of Shawn Baker). Bodybuilding and some sports with significant amounts of such (such as wrestling) has always been plagued by people seeking That One Hack to get MORE GAINZ. When in reality your only real choice is hard work -- whether it's clean "natural" exercise or the strictly regimental stuff you have to do for "the steroid look". So, there's a ton of dietary supplement woo promoted to this sport in particular.

Now, this is a little different than bodybuilding woo, because most *actual* athletes aren't on carnivore diets. (There are a few exceptions, of course, but in Googling to find actual professional athletes eating the carnivore diet, I unsurprisingly found very few.) Actual athletes, especially the sports that have you moving around a lot, need carbs. In addition, many essential vitamins are best found in fruit and vegetables. So most knowledgeable athletes are on balanced diets. My guess is that the "carnivore diet" is mainly propagated by cultural stereotype. In parts of the West at least, meat is Manly and is associated with strength and muscle etc. So this is why I think you mostly see this diet promoted in the alt-right and the manosphere -- there's an almost comical obsession with Manliness with that group, and it leads to bad diets like this. I don't think Lomax is really that linked to the alt-right, but there's sort of a Venn diagram between alt-right and whacko conspiracy theorists, and I guess enough "leaked" from that group to make him a "true believer" of this fad diet. BobJohnson (talk) 23:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Can anyone honestly say they will miss Lomax? He was most likely a pedophile (at least he held views which can be described as pedophilia apologetics which is thoroughly documented in his article while he was friends with child abductor, rapist and self-described "hebephile" Nathan Larson) and his digital footprint for decades seems to have been getting into internet slap fights, vexatious litigation, pointless trolling and most bizarrely defending far-right figures such as Emil Kirkegaard and Michael Coombs. On top of this he was a conspiracy theorist loon who had gotten banned on dozens of sites for disruption. From what I can tell his main interest in Islam was child marriage (a search of his comment history shows a fixation with pedophilia, the age of Aisha and child marriage in Islamic texts.) He was a dirty old pervert.165.232.100.190 (talk) 02:08, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

I think it is quite obvious that Lomax liked young girls. He used to work as a midwife with one of his ex-wives, this is mentioned in several newspapers but he was asked to leave the group for undisclosed reasons. He posted that he lost custody of his two adopted teenage daughters. Around this time he was asking his friend Nathan Larson for advice. It's hard to tell fact from fiction from what Lomax said about his background. He was a schizophrenic who claimed to have heard a voice from God and said he visualized angels and demons. Entire fictions include his claim that he worked for NASA and that he studied Buddhism with monks at a Shaolin Monastery. From what I have confirmed Lomax was only involved with the Islamic Murabitun World Movement very briefly and was asked to leave. Pretty much every club/group/organization/movement kicked him out. Interestingly his very last post on Reddit was him arguing with someone over flat earth and telling that person he was going to ban them [2]. He led a very negative life. Definitely not a pleasant individual but he's passed on now so there is no reason to discuss our opinions about him. It's best to wait and see if there will be an obituary.

As for what BobJohnson has written I totally agree. Most carnivore diet advocates are bodybuilders or incels associated with the alt right manosphere. Abd Lomax was a bit different, he was duped into the carnivore diet scam from his 30 year involvement with the Atkins diet. Johns (talk) 15:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

I agree completely but is he dead? A somebody. (talk) 18:39, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

He died on April 12. His ex-wife and daughter have both written about it on social media but as stated we need to wait until we have a good source on this. It takes a while. Johns (talk) 20:58, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

If he's dead but we can't use his ex wife or daughter's social medias as sources, even a relatively shite one such a random guy on reddit would do, because I heavily doubt we will be getting a high quality obit from the New York Times. A somebody. (talk) 21:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘Local news outlets (if there is one) and funeral homes often carry obituaries. I think if the wife or daughter on social media are credible non-impersonators, I think that's sufficient. Bongolian (talk) 22:19, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't know where he lived and I have no idea where I would find that information. But it seems like he is dead with this source claiming they got into contact with someone who was close to him and that person confirmed he is dead, probably not the most reliable source but eh, beggars can't be Choosers. A somebody. (talk) 00:09, 19 April 2024 (UTC)