Talk:Inverse stopped clock

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Animal Rights[edit]

Regarding the example of animal rights movement using the holocaust to score political points. This feels unfair considering there have actually been a number of holocaust survivors and Jewish activists who have made the comparison directly. — Unsigned, by: 213.86.14.100 / talk

Goody for them, It's still a stupid clickbait/tabloid level appeal to emotion. It's also tasteless as all fuck. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 17:51, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
It seems more tasteless to be offended on behalf of the survivors and tell them what is or isn't correct discourse regarding their experience. Unless you are a survivor or Jewish yourself, surely it is better to take their cue on the matter? — Unsigned, by: 213.86.14.100 / talk
Plenty of Jews (even vegans/vegetarians/animal rights activists) believe it's not OK.[1][2][3] So pretending Jews don't have a problem with it is disingenuous to say the least. --Annanoon (talk) 10:48, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Gandhi’s support for Hitler?![edit]

The fuck?! Gandhi totally hated violence! It may be a documentable fact that Hitler supported Mahatma Gandhi, that does not imply vice-versa. https://time.com/5685122/gandhi-hitler-letter/ He has repeatedly written letters to him to stop violence. The article cited is trash too (see my revert note) So I am going to remove it. Feel free to revert back after discussing please. And no I am not going to threaten to LANCB I promise. Just notify me. The 𝗦𝗾𝗿𝘁-𝟭 talk stalk 13:47, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Certain clocks that may have stopped for good[edit]

By definition, a prerequisite for being an inverse stopped clock is being "usually logical, rational, or correct", and there are a few entries here that don't seem to satisfy that all too well. Some examples I found notable:

The whole list should go to be honest. It's main purpose is to humbly praise people you like. GeeJayK (talk) 00:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
At the very least it probably shouldn't have contemporary talking heads and politicians. But most sufferers of Nobel disease kinda belong here, and loads of historical figures did tremendous work in whatever their chosen field was while picking a hill to die on that was questionable in their time and outright atrocious in hindsight. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and axe these entries and a couple others. Theduckparticle (talk) 16:42, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
If we’re going to keep trimming it, I’d suggest Joe Biden goes. “On the one hand, he was Obama’s Vice President, on the other he supported white supremacists and voted for the Iraq War” doesn’t scream inverse stopped clock (or regular stopped clock).
Does anyone think the list should stay? I also think it should go, and it seems that’s the consensus. Christopher (talk) 16:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
The whole list is too subjective in my opinion. Kinda like the Breadtube one. And we all know what happened to that article.... GeeJayK (talk) 17:25, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Purge it, we don't need it. It's inherently subjective. Oxyaena Harass 20:01, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────That’s enough of a consensus for me, it’s gone. Christopher (talk) 20:04, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Dislike this article[edit]

I hate the terms "stopped clock" and "inverse stopped clock", but that "cynical explanation" part isn't well supported by sources or solid reasoning. It's just speculation and a tacked on "mortal sin" which is one of the most overdone cliche concepts ever. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 01:21, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

No Examples?[edit]

It's interesting that not one example is cited in this article. Would Barack Obama's administration's decision to build the "cages" for detained immigrant children be an example of an Inverse stopped clock? 2601:CC:0:4A20:38A5:29D9:960E:A380 (talk) 18:38, 10 May 2022 (UTC)