Talk:Mao Zedong

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This is a beginning. I'll add more when i have time.Researcher 01:05, 10 October 2007 (EDT)

Removed author's commment from article re intentions as above. Susantalk to me 03:34, 10 October 2007 (EDT)

Sorry about that. The article is now finished, at least as much as I feel like writing. If people want to add more snark, it would make me happy. (I suck at writing snark, but I lov reading it.)Researcher 21:44, 11 October 2007 (EDT)
Removed the "under construction" tag, per Researcher's comments.

Mao and Chiang[edit]

I'm all for criticism of Chiang, but this should find its place in a seperate article about that guy. If you put it into the Mao article, it can easily be misunderstood as an attempt to whitewash the latter by presenting Chiang as a foil. Edit: I'm talking specifically about this rant, which'll just prolong the edit war, not criticism in general. Röstigraben (talk) 11:57, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

I second this motion. Researcher (talk) 04:37, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Death Count[edit]

"His rule from 1949 to 1976 is believed to have caused the deaths of 40 to 70 million people, making Mao the most prolific mass murderer in human history, ahead of Genghis Khan, Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin"

This isn't true at all and is only professed by right wing revisionist hacks like Dikotter, Bannister, Halliday and Chang who use massive data manipulation and fabrication to come up with such numbers. The "missing" rate in China, is actually between 3-11 million, though this ignores reasons why birth rate may drop or why people are missing, like mobilization, natural disaster, emigration etc etc. During the GLF China suffered the worst floods it had experienced in decades, this is never brought into account though. There is has been widespread research that shows that such death figures are largely fabricated and have zero basis in reality. The truth is, most people in them, didn't even exist. http://www.Chinastudygroup.net/blogs/eastwindwestwind/files/2009/08/patnaik-famine-measuring.pdf http://www.hkstrongwind.com/pdfs/EBook/The_Battle_for_Chinas_Past.pdf http://monthlyreview.org/commentary/did-mao-really-kill-millions-in-the-great-leap-forward

Such a number should be removed, it is right wing propaganda through and through - MN (talk) 02:27, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Mao Zedong a philosopher?[edit]

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Mao and the death numbers don't add up[edit]

Through Mao was responsible for a great number of deaths when looking at the numbers presented, The ideology that he killed "caused the deaths of 40 to 70 million people" is a completely far fetched claim. Under Mao, the life expectancy of the Chinese went up, the death rate of Chinese, according to official UN statistics, was at a rate less than India, Indonesia and the Philippines. A number of statements in this article appear or are simply false or exaggerated to a degree. (See https://gwydionwilliams.com/99-problems-magazine/mao-and-china/ for all of my sources) Therefore, I will change this article in about 7 to 8 days unless evidence appears to the contrary. Click Link Or Gulag (talk) 21:14, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Life Expectancy[edit]

No mention of how the life expectancy of the Chinese rose under Mao significantly? — Unsigned, by: 82.33.172.234 / talk / contribs

Well yeah, killing 30-50 million people with low life expectancies will do that to your demographics. Nog Bogmire (talk) 14:10, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Any sources for that statement? It appears that my good friend up there has provided you with facts from trusted websites, as well as the United Nations themselves. I don't much from your side, to be honest. I mean, for fuck's sake, even the ARTICLE itself states that it has a lack of sources, so there's not much to suggest that maybe, just maybe, these sources may be right. Love, Father White Jackson AKA 194.82.180.254 (talk) 12:19, 25 September 2017 (UTC)